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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: mosgood on October 15, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
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So what's up with the gas prices?
Miraculously, they go down right before elections...
I know a lot of people very nervous, wondering exactly what we had to sacrifice in the future to pay for this sunny picture the government is trying to portray now.
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Isn't it funny how elections usually happen really near to the end of the summer? The time of the year where road travel is up, therefor demand is also up?
Must be a coincidence, right?
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Heh, well there is no 'election' in my country and the prices are going down here also.
Maybe there is less demand .......
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it's all BOOOOOOOSH's fault
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Originally posted by storch
it's all BOOOOOOOSH's fault
DETH TO AMREEKA!
or not, i like halfway decent prices.
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I am waiting for one of the tards who think Bush can actually control gas prices to explain how he does it in other countries. :D
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Originally posted by mosgood
So what's up with the gas prices?
Miraculously, they go down right before elections...
I know a lot of people very nervous, wondering exactly what we had to sacrifice in the future to pay for this sunny picture the government is trying to portray now.
For the last 10+ years, gas prices have been going UP in spring, DOWN in fall-- demand goes up in spring, and refining capacity (they normally run at 90+%) is diminished by all the 'botique' blends that librules demanded for dirty-air places like Kalifornia. (Clean air is nice and all, but it has a price) That, in addition to the fact that we havent built a refinery in the US since 1971, due to the endless objections of librule environmenalists. Or.... ya could just blame it on Bushs' oil buddies:aok (Why are librules always mystified by the law of supply and demand?)
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Skernsk,
That is interesting. Maybe I am more untrusting than I should be. Still suspectious... but willing to be wrong.
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It's all a left right wing foot conspiracy!!!! :noid :noid :noid :noid :furious
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On Monday OPEC will prolly be pulling a million barrels a day off the market.
Prices will be back up soon.
Thank you for playing "Scandalous Elections , Oil , and You"
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boosh dropped the price of oil to boost the lagging sales of pickumups an SUV's and save the US auto industry, but was it the stupid boosh or the evil genus boosh? :confused: :noid
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:rofl
:noid
I guess if you are a Marxist, economics is like a foreign language to you anyway, as are the market factors that cause the rise and fall of the price of anything, not just gasoline.
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Originally posted by Stang
:rofl
:noid
I guess if you are a Marxist,
I am not......look at my hit percentage and come back and call me that.:lol
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:D
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The price has to come down. You see, there is no competition to power your car, however, there is to heat your home.
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Originally posted by mosgood
So what's up with the gas prices?
Miraculously, they go down right before elections...
I know a lot of people very nervous, wondering exactly what we had to sacrifice in the future to pay for this sunny picture the government is trying to portray now.
the arabs that own the majority of the gas stations in the U.S. use any accident in the middle east to raise there prices
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umm...has ANYone noticed that the price of a barrel of oil has come down, due to less worldwide demand...small point I realize:rolleyes:
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YES!!! and if you do not vote Republican in NOV - no < $3 a gallon gas for YOU!! LOL
you guys crack me up - is there anything Bush does not control or is to be blamed for (forget about giving him credit for anything good) in your paraniod minds?
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Isn't it amusing how people think themselves informed and yet they know nothing of OPEC, and the fact that oil is a commodity like any other commodity? Oil futures are traded constantly, and every time there's a storm, a tanker problem, a terrorist incident, a refinery incident, or OPEC threatens a production decrease the price goes up.
When the U.S. becomes a member of OPEC (right after Hell freezes over), MAYBE the President, whoever he is, MIGHT have some serious major influence over oil prices. Or maybe when we are drilling and processing some real amount of oil to meet at least some real portion of our own demands. So long as morons try to keep the ANWAR and the Gulf of Mexico off limits and make it impossible to build new refineries, we'll be at the mercy of others. You can bet China and Cuba won't hesitate to drill in the Gulf of Mexico given the slightest opportunity.
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yes.. the global warming "scientists" of the EPA here in kalifornia decided that putting a deadly poison in the fuel would help even tho it was impossible to remove once it got into the water.
We were charged extra for this poison and now... "oops... big mistake on the whole MTBE thing... gotta ban it and take it out.."
Now they are charging us extra to not put it in the fuel.
lazs
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Whilst it's wrong to claim the US president somehow controls the oil price, it's also wrong to claim he has no influence over it. One of the major factors driving the high oil price is the situation in Iraq, which has both curtailed supply (1.8 million barrels produced a day in 2005 compared to 2.5 million in 2000) and increased fears of even further cutbacks in supply. The US attitude to Iran is also a major factor, with fears of a US attack on Iran helping to drive the price higher.
So long as morons try to keep the ANWAR and the Gulf of Mexico off limits and make it impossible to build new refineries, we'll be at the mercy of others.
You'll be at the mercy of others because the US simply can't produce enough oil to satisfy its own demand. Even with Anwar and the GoM, the US will still produce millions of barrels a day less than it consumes.
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Originally posted by Nashwan
Whilst it's wrong to claim the US president somehow controls the oil price, it's also wrong to claim he has no influence over it. One of the major factors driving the high oil price is the situation in Iraq, which has both curtailed supply (1.8 million barrels produced a day in 2005 compared to 2.5 million in 2000) and increased fears of even further cutbacks in supply. The US attitude to Iran is also a major factor, with fears of a US attack on Iran helping to drive the price higher.
it's not boosh/USA that is blowing up the oil pipe lines in Iraq, it's the terrorists, keep your "facts" straight.
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I posted the same thing when gas prices started to plummet, and got about the same response.
Since I'm a naturally suspicious sort to, I went and DL'd the data for gas prices in the US. You can find it here (http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html) .
Just by doing year by year charts in Excel it is pretty easy to see there isn't a correlation between elections and falling gas prices.
2000 (EY) - gas prices rise slightly through October.
2001- gas prices plummet Sept-Dec, then start rising again.
2002 (EY) - gas prices rise slightly through October.
2003 - gas prices shoot up in Aug-early Sept, then fall drastically late Sept-Oct.
2004 (EY) - gas prices rise slightly through October.
2005 - gas prices fall through October.
2006 (EY) - gas prices started falling in August.
If 2006 is like the other election years, gas prices should start rising slightly about this week. It doesn't look like it is trending that way, but there is definately a slow down in the decreasing cost of gas.
For the record, I wouldn't take anybody elses word on anything, especially here. If you are curious, the data is out there - and it doesn't lie.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yes.. the global warming "scientists" of the EPA here in kalifornia decided that putting a deadly poison in the fuel would help even tho it was impossible to remove once it got into the water.
We were charged extra for this poison and now... "oops... big mistake on the whole MTBE thing... gotta ban it and take it out.."
Now they are charging us extra to not put it in the fuel.
lazs
No kiddin'? I hope those responsible are now working at McDonalds.
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We paid 19 cents a gallon!!!
back in 1968...
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the arabs that own the majority of the gas stations in the U.S. use any accident in the middle east to raise there prices
Arabs do not own most, or as far as I can tell even many, gas stations in the US. "New Americans" and their families with indian and pakistani roots do manage a number of C-stores and do often operate as dealers though. Also, the poeple that "own" the gas stations typically have little control over the final price, which is largely set by their wholesale prices at the rack and by the guy down the stree in competion.
The guy you're thinking of is the ******* commodities trader that just cut you off in his Mercedes while talking on his cell phone :)
Edit: you can also blame, to some extent, people who shop at Wallmart etc. and who support companies that outsource to India for boosting those economies and their demand for oil.
Charon
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Don't forget Clinton. No BJs for oil!
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When Hillery gets elected gas will be back down to $.19 a gallon, cigs will be $.27 a pack, there will be World of Peace, no terrorism, Muslims hugging Christians, Palestinians hugging Jews, all borders will be open with everyone employed and no Country will be a 3rd World Nation or have a deficet and there will be no child left behind.
Oh and Monica Lewinsky will be the Whitehouse spokesperson.
Welcome to the World of...............
NOT!!!!
Mac
:rofl