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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: The Fury on October 17, 2006, 08:29:55 PM
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Sorry for posting a whining post but why oh why do people keep avoiding a fight just to vulch how sad and pathetic are them guys :furious
this tactic seems to be used in the late war more often than the others and it sucks look at me im in a fast plane i can fly really high ignore that furball near that enemy field and i can go and vulch arent i great?
this tactic is imho a very sad way of spending your time on aces high why avoid the furball? and vulch?
i dnt mind getting vulched aslong as it is already capped by the enemy but to fly through a group of enemys to vulch a field is pathetic what sort of a person does this?
this isnt another play the game my way post because i believe everybody will play the game different to the nxt person im just getting a little miffed with the runway bashers lately.
thought id vent my anger :aok
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Probably because stopping the aircraft lifting is the easiest and fastest way to gain accendancy in a furball.
Honestly, I don't do what you've described exactly, but I will climb over the furball and drop in and engage those fighters on climb out toward it. It seems to me that this is the best way to advance the fight further from my base and closer to the enemies in the least amount of time.
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If all air targets have at least one friendly in pursuit, and if the purpose of the fight is to eventually get the field capped (say in a base capture), then yes, by all means, keep any reinforcements from getting in the air. It would make no sense to be the third person engaging a con already in the air in that instance.
Don't know if that describes your particular situation, but it is one of several cases in which vulching your sorry rear is the smart thing to do.:D
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Tinman what your doing is totaly acceptable and understandable i agree with that 100 % :aok
if only everyone would do that instead of Runway Bash :D
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the ones that fly over to a base vulch it for a while and fly away leaving the town fully intact are the ones that bug me.
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Originally posted by The Fury
Sorry for posting a whining post but why oh why do people keep avoiding a fight just to vulch how sad and pathetic are them guys :furious
People who don't do what you want are sad and pathetic?
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Isnt it funny how one sided this old argument is.
If a player blasts me as Im trying to up from a CAP'd field, he's AWESOME.
If I maul a player as he's upping....and he keeps doing it (while 20+ of us take turns spanking the idiot)...we're a bunch of vulching dweebs.
Here's an idea....stop upping!
Its called Air Superiority and suppression of enemy defences.
Its also called whinning.
:p
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Flying past the already airborne defenders in the hopes of getting one vulch before those already up smoke you... that's not exactly Air Superiority. That's just being desperate.
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I like to vulch you on the deck
yer low and slow and soon to wreck
Another field is yours to use
instead my choices you abuse
I like to run from Zekes and Spits
you can't catch me and don't get hits
A faster plane you too could fly
but if you catch me you would die
You turn and burn but I don't whine
You pay yer fee and I pay mine.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Flying past the already airborne defenders in the hopes of getting one vulch before those already up smoke you... that's not exactly Air Superiority. That's just being desperate.
Hub said it right. The rest of you are making excuses for pure lameness. Probably what you do yourselves in the same situation, trying to justify it.
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Because it makes one less plane in the air?
If there are 5 enemy fighters over a base and another trying to up and the vulch is there, why let another fighter up? All he is gonna do is ho you because if he goes down he just re-ups meanwhile you have to fly all the way back. I kill any plane I get the chance to. Regardless of if they are landing, taking off, or if there is a con on my 6. If I am gonna die, I am taking as many red icons with me as possible.
Only time I won't kill a plane is if it's been a good 1 on 1 and he is engine out or whatever. By good I mean no hoing and straight ACM.
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Hey Raider, maybe becuase the 5 other guys in the air will end up shooting you down every time? Just a thought...
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Originally posted by Gryffin
People who don't do what you want are sad and pathetic?
Think your posting in the wrong forum mate i dnt know were you get that idea from:huh
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Originally posted by The Fury
Think your posting in the wrong forum mate i dnt know were you get that idea from:huh
He was just quoting your post. You said "how sad and pathetic are THEM guys."
By the way... the correct grammer would have been "how sad and pathetic are THOSE guys."
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Originally posted by NCLawman
He was just quoting your post. You said "how sad and pathetic are THEM guys."
By the way... the correct grammer would have been "how sad and pathetic are THOSE guys."
no he is quoting what he thinks i said when infact i didnt say that at all he needs to read my post correctly!
And did you not notice that at the bottom of my first post it says it isnt another play the game my way post or do you guys just not read stuff like that?:furious
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Why is there always someone who likes to twist your words into something completely different?
there is a couple of times i have said it aint a play my way post and i have also said sry for making a whining post but still someone people come on and say "so your not happy there not playing it your way" if i wanted to say that i woulda just said it:furious
I couldnt care less about vulches just hate the guys who fly through 20 enemys just to vulch the field like i said very sad and pathetic.
If you fly through the 20 enemys and vulch the field your gna die anyway so why not wait until your mates turn up then go for a furball and get a proper cap instead just being a runway dweeb.
and i will say it again just for those who arent listening this isnt a play it my way or else sort of post like i said in the first place everyone is gna play the game different to the nxt person.
just could do without these sort of dweebs. and i was venting my anger too:aok
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Well, I think it is time for the president of the club (SHawk) and the VP (Zazen) to come up with the official and final answer to the question. Please, no answers from wanabes or midle managers. Just from the officers so that we can put an end to this.
Thank you
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Originally posted by Raider179
Because it makes one less plane in the air?
They're not in the air if they're on the runway.
Just pointing that out...
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If someone dives in past 10 cons to get a vulch kill he will easily be killed on his way out so there really isn't any problem that I can see.
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Originally posted by Stang
Hey Raider, maybe becuase the 5 other guys in the air will end up shooting you down every time? Just a thought...
LOL
Rather be shot down by 5 than by 6...
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Originally posted by indy007
They're not in the air if they're on the runway.
Just pointing that out... [/QUOTE
Are they trying to get airborne? Yes.
Will they ho you given the opportunity? Yes.
Shoot down every red con you can. Letting Planes get up when you have an opportunity to kill them is dumb...
Save your semantics, a red con taking off is no different than a red con in the air...
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Most people do not care about anyone but themselves while playing this game. It's a case of maturity. They do not care "how" they get a kill, but rather just getting the kill itself. That's why people fire on ho's, high deflection shots, gang bang, vulch, cherry pick and other things.
It doesn't matter how they get a kill, they just want a kill.
What they fail to realize is that this game isn't about getting kills. It's about having fun with the person you are fighting with and against.
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Originally posted by NCLawman
By the way... the correct grammer would have been "how sad and pathetic are THOSE guys."
for "grammer".............spell grammar :aok
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Originally posted by Raider179
Originally posted by indy007
They're not in the air if they're on the runway.
Just pointing that out... [/QUOTE
Are they trying to get airborne? Yes.
Will they ho you given the opportunity? Yes.
Shoot down every red con you can. Letting Planes get up when you have an opportunity to kill them is dumb...
Save your semantics, a red con taking off is no different than a red con in the air... [/B]
You might say shooting immobile planes because you're afraid they'll takeoff is just lazy, and dumb if other threats are already airborne.
You might also say that if you vulch people while they're not moving, they're less likely to re-up, resulting in less overall kills, and less time fighting.
It's kinda like hunting.
You want to blast Bambi (at a timed feeder) with a .50cal
I want to bear hunt with spears.
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Originally posted by Hammy
for "grammer".............spell grammar :aok
Hammy, that was good :rofl
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Originally posted by FLS
I like to vulch you on the deck
yer low and slow and soon to wreck
Another field is yours to use
instead my choices you abuse
I like to run from Zekes and Spits
you can't catch me and don't get hits
A faster plane you too could fly
but if you catch me you would die
You turn and burn but I don't whine
You pay yer fee and I pay mine.
lol nice
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Originally posted by Raider179
Shoot down every red con you can. Letting Planes get up when you have an opportunity to kill them is dumb...
Sacrificing all of your alt and position advantage over the 5 guys in the air to vulch one guy who is barely rolling is way beyond dumb, it's retarded. That plane lifting is absolutely no threat to you in the current situation, but the 5 airborne guys are.
Just admit it's the only way you're going to get a kill, I'm fine with that. But don't try to tell me it's because it's no different than going for the guys in the air, because it isn't. I love bellybutton backwards reasoning.
Pacerr taught you well.
:aok
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I know what you mean about the runway bashing.They just zoom in and get some free vulches just so they can run home and land their little kills, get their little name up in lights, and get some wtg's from their buddies and think they are just so awesome and most of these think that ACM stands for Another Chance Meeting.
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Originally posted by Stang
Sacrificing all of your alt and position advantage over the 5 guys in the air to vulch one guy who is barely rolling is way beyond dumb, it's retarded. That plane lifting is absolutely no threat to you in the current situation, but the 5 airborne guys are.
Just admit it's the only way you're going to get a kill, I'm fine with that. But don't try to tell me it's because it's no different than going for the guys in the air, because it isn't. I love bellybutton backwards reasoning.
Pacerr taught you well.
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Well now you are just making assumptions. "sacrifing alt and position" lmao
I fly mostly the Zero in LW so I rarely have alt or position and usually have to turn my six to an enemy plane to get him to bite.
I disagree the lifter is "no threat". In fact i find the lifters are just as big a threat because they will Ho anything because they just have to re-up.
Yeah it's the only way I get a kill. lol Nice try. but no.
I have ZERO sympathy for those who get vulched, especially repeatedly. I hardly ever get vulched. It's about as rare for me as puffy ack. Perhaps the people getting vulched don't have a clue about SA? Or perhaps their team should do a better job of protecting the airspace instead of all 5 of them chasing 1 con. lol
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Geeesh ... most miss the point.
It's the same guy (on your team) that flys by you (typically in a 190 or an La7) while you are engaged in a 1 v 1 or 1 v many trying to knock the CAP down, just so that he can scream across the runway at 500+ miles per hour to get that 1 or 2 possible kills ... all the while leaving you hanging and fighting the guys that are already a threat in the air.
I get more pissed at that than being on the receiving end of one of those Runway Bashers due to the fact that at most, they get one or two runs and then die an embarrassing death.
The Fury ... this is just one of those things in AH that your just gonna have to deal with. Runway Bashers are those who can't fight and always get their arse handed to them when they do fight ... and it hurts them emotionally ... so rather than jump back into the saddle and try again ... they play Runway Basher so that they can revel in the satisfaction that they did get to kill someone and are able to sleep at night.
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Thanx for that slapshot that was spot on :aok
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Geeesh ... most miss the point.
It's the same guy (on your team) that flys by you (typically in a 190 or an La7) while you are engaged in a 1 v 1 or 1 v many trying to knock the CAP down, just so that he can scream across the runway at 500+ miles per hour to get that 1 or 2 possible kills ... all the while leaving you hanging and fighting the guys that are already a threat in the air.
I get more pissed at that than being on the receiving end of one of those Runway Bashers due to the fact that at most, they get one or two runs and then die an embarrassing death.
The Fury ... this is just one of those things in AH that your just gonna have to deal with. Runway Bashers are those who can't fight and always get their arse handed to them when they do fight ... and it hurts them emotionally ... so rather than jump back into the saddle and try again ... they play Runway Basher so that they can revel in the satisfaction that they did get to kill someone and are able to sleep at night.
I was going to say the exact same thing. I've seen them blaze by when the attacker are outnumbered and getting thrashed by the defenders, make a feeble attempt at the vulch and then fly away never to offer their country-mates any help. They may do this 2,3,or 4 times. If they get a kill or 2 then they are gone if they are not dead before that. That is truly pathetic.
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:O
Didnt know we had a President and VP
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I personally love the satisfaction of clearing a capped field. Does it always work? No. But if the VH is up I know I cam gonna clear some of the vulchers out with my Osti. If the VH is down will go kill the ords at the base they are coming from and then wait for the VH to pop. Then laugh as I watch them dance or head back to their base.
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Originally posted by Raider179
Well now you are just making assumptions. "sacrifing alt and position" lmao
I fly mostly the Zero in LW so I rarely have alt or position and usually have to turn my six to an enemy plane to get him to bite.
I disagree the lifter is "no threat". In fact i find the lifters are just as big a threat because they will Ho anything because they just have to re-up.
Yeah it's the only way I get a kill. lol Nice try. but no.
I have ZERO sympathy for those who get vulched, especially repeatedly. I hardly ever get vulched. It's about as rare for me as puffy ack. Perhaps the people getting vulched don't have a clue about SA? Or perhaps their team should do a better job of protecting the airspace instead of all 5 of them chasing 1 con. lol
:lol
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Originally posted by Raider179
Originally posted by indy007
Letting Planes get up when you have an opportunity to kill them is dumb...
Save your semantics, a red con taking off is no different than a red con in the air... [/B]
Do you really feel this way?
I mean....really?
- oldman
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Funny, ain't it?
:lol
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Do you really feel this way?
I mean....really?
- oldman
Yes. Red is Red.
I am not advocating not fighting other cons. I am simply saying I am not gonna not kill an upper just because the sky is full of planes. Any red plane that comes across my sights will be shot at.
This aint the DA ladies.
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Any red plane that comes across my sights will be shot at.
and your sights just happen to be zooming the runway?
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
and your sights just happen to be zooming the runway?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Good One :aok
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Originally posted by Raider179
Yes. Red is Red.
I am not advocating not fighting other cons. I am simply saying I am not gonna not kill an upper just because the sky is full of planes. Any red plane that comes across my sights will be shot at.
This aint the DA ladies.
you should join the runway Bops or take safety lessons from the OSHA certified attackakak chihuahua.
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Originally posted by storch
you should join the runway Bops or take safety lessons from the OSHA certified attackakak chihuahua.
Or take lessons in fighter-plane fuel economy from storch.
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Originally posted by thndregg
Or take lessons in fighter-plane fuel economy from storch.
:lol Yeah but Thndr, what he saves in gas he makes up for in the cost of all those virtual planes that people shoot out from under him. :)
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the thing I admire most about players such as these fellows is how they do everything together. they gang people. just the other day I slapped down three in a 5 v 1, they attack on the bbs together, I'm sure they even go to the bathroom together when they attend the conventions. truly admirable behavior.
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fwiw, not a lot of vultching in the EW and MW arenas. some, yeah, but ack is much more of an issue and the lone vultcher isn't really a problem.
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If I'm at 15k coming from a few bases away, why not come in fast vulch the planes upping on one or two passes to keep them down then by that time I have bleed my e and I can join the furballers at low to middle alt. That seems like common since to me. I'm not saying you should leave a teammate to die, but if the furball is even Why the heck would I bleed all my e- to engage someone low when i can do it 2 min from now and keep some planes out of the air? If they see me hitting them, if their smart they will up from a base farther away, giving the green guys time to move the fight over the red guys base and take it.
Nick
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Originally posted by nick172
giving the green guys time to move the fight over the red guys base.
Nick
So that the real vulch fest can begin :rofl
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Hey I dont know if you realize this but this is a WAR game, the object is to capture the other teams fields. You might not like it but some people like playing the game for that aspect of it. and that my friend is the way to take a base.
Nick
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Originally posted by nick172
Hey I dont know if you realize this but this is a WAR game, the object is to capture the other teams fields. You might not like it but some people like playing the game for that aspect of it. and that my friend is the way to take a base.
Nick
I realize that. What you need to realize is that winning the war after puting up a good fight can be a lot more fun. Losing the war after puting up a good fight would be fun too. Fighting for something, working hard for it instead of having it handed to you is a lot more fun. But you would not know would you? Give it a try. My 5 year old could take an undefended base. You guys need 30 people to do so, lol.
BTW, you do not capture a base by vulching. You capture it by destroing the town, the VH, having troops ready, and then either vulch or bring the FHs down fi you cant keep the cap. Vulching two guys before you auger does nothing.
Anyway, give TRYING a try. You may find out that winning the war is more fun that way. :lol
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Hey I dont know if you realize this but this is a WAR game, the object is to capture the other teams fields. You might not like it but some people like playing the game for that aspect of it. and that my friend is the way to take a base.
This is NOT what HTC would want you to think like. Is'nt this the reason the arena changes were made, or so it seemed to me :rolleyes: :noid
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Ok, this is deep, so bear with me whilst I try to convey what some guy named chuck yeager said...Like it said its deep, so try to understand," the enemy is a whole lot easier to kill on the ground, than in the air". If its good enough for chuck, its good enough for me. I hope that isn't too confusing.:(
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Why Furball?
Sorry for posting a whining post but why oh why do people keep avoiding captuing bases just to furball how sad and pathetic are them guys
this tactic seems to be used in the early war more often than the others and it sucks look at me im in a slow plane i can turn really well ignore that vulchfest at that enemy field and i can go and turn on the deck arent i great?
this tactic is imho a very sad way of spending your time on aces high why avoid capturing territory, and furball?
i dnt mind getting into a furball aslong as there is nobody to vulch but to fly through a group of vulching toolsheddders to furball is pathetic what sort of a person does this?
this isnt another play the game my way post because i believe everybody will play the game different to the nxt person im just getting a little miffed with the furballers lately.
Most sincerely
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If its good enough for chuck, its good enough for me.
I don't know if you know this but Chuck Yeager was a real pilot flying in a real situation and did what he had to do.You are playing a video GAME but nice try at an excuse.
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Ok, I'll breal down and give you the ansewer youre searching for, YOU POOR POOR THING. Hows that?
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Originally posted by RELIC
Why Furball?
Sorry for posting a whining post but why oh why do people keep avoiding captuing bases just to furball how sad and pathetic are them guys
this tactic seems to be used in the early war more often than the others and it sucks look at me im in a slow plane i can turn really well ignore that vulchfest at that enemy field and i can go and turn on the deck arent i great?
this tactic is imho a very sad way of spending your time on aces high why avoid capturing territory, and furball?
i dnt mind getting into a furball aslong as there is nobody to vulch but to fly through a group of vulching toolsheddders to furball is pathetic what sort of a person does this?
this isnt another play the game my way post because i believe everybody will play the game different to the nxt person im just getting a little miffed with the furballers lately.
Most sincerely
Nice!!!:lol
What is really sad is that the guys claiming they vulch to take the base and win the war, 99.99% have no goon there and have no clue if one is comming. Not to mention that they vulch with the town, VH, and even the field ack up. Yeah, we beleave you. You are trying to take that base. lol :rofl
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YOU POOR POOR THING.
Thats way better.
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Originally posted by RELIC
Why Furball?
Sorry for posting a whining post but why oh why do people keep avoiding captuing bases just to furball how sad and pathetic are them guys
this tactic seems to be used in the early war more often than the others and it sucks look at me im in a slow plane i can turn really well ignore that vulchfest at that enemy field and i can go and turn on the deck arent i great?
this tactic is imho a very sad way of spending your time on aces high why avoid capturing territory, and furball?
i dnt mind getting into a furball aslong as there is nobody to vulch but to fly through a group of vulching toolsheddders to furball is pathetic what sort of a person does this?
this isnt another play the game my way post because i believe everybody will play the game different to the nxt person im just getting a little miffed with the furballers lately.
Most sincerely
WOW:O seems familiar but the other way around lol
:aok
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Heh heh Fury my hat is off to you sir, we may not agree on this particular issue but you got class.
Topics like this seem to have become an endless repeat of similar postings on the boards and it always seems to boil down to the inability of people to respect or even care for the opinions of others. Folks, get a grip PLEASE! Look I despise the taste of liver and onions but do I care if someone else likes them? No. Why is it that we can't apply that same consideration to other issues? I've seen people come to blows over football teams and musical tastes - WTF is up with that?
Is it really a problem in life when someone likes playing differently in their virtual plane than the way you like to play? If it is, then it might be time to take a step back and really consider what is and isn't important in life - and really I'm not trying to be an arse here and that isn't directed at any one person.
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Originally posted by Hammy
This is NOT what HTC would want you to think like. Is'nt this the reason the arena changes were made, or so it seemed to me :rolleyes: :noid
Not according to HiTech. He want arena with a max of 200 - 300 players in them.
If he wanted to do away with the ability to capture a field , don't you think he would have done that?
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POSTED by Gryffin
People who don't do what you want are sad and pathetic?
Sure, just ask Lazs:aok
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the taste of liver and onions
mmmmm your makin me hungry
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I understand the boards are good for venting anger & frustration, but what's wrong with a bit of "in-game peer pressure"?
If you see a team-mate playing in what may be a gamey or negative manner, why not have a quiet word in their ear?
There may be a good reason for their actions and it gives them an opportunity to respond and other players to give their opinion.
This obviously needs to be done in a non confrontational manner e.g.
"Whisky, you've just blasted thro' this furball in your Dora and I know you're doing a good job vulching the cons upping down there, but we're struggling a bit up here and your help would be appreciated if possible."
If others make same suggestion then behaviour modification should result.:)
Trouble is too much smack talk on intercom.
"Whisky, stop ****ing about & get your a** up here" is not likely to get a result.
(Whisky <----- ground into polite diplomacy by years of hard parenting teenagers)
Regards.
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How sad and pathetic are dweebs
that only post in prose :furious
They rant and beat a point to death
when right under their nose
A simple search would soon reveal
the point was settled years ago
in towering piles of flaming posts
reduced to "I like it so"
Fly how you like
like what you fly
don't regulate
the other guy
Just venting some bad poetry :aok
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The Runway Bash
It's a runway bash
now yer plane is trash
blown up in a flash
it's a runway bash
If I make you whine
that's a definite sign
that it must be fine
when I cross that line
for a runway bash
it'll settle yer hash
cause I pay my cash
for a runway bash
Some will think it's wrong
like Silat's thong
so you must be strong
follow me along
make a runway bash
leave some smoking ash
then away we'll dash
from a runway bash
:D
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Most people do not care about anyone but themselves while playing this game. It's a case of maturity. They do not care "how" they get a kill, but rather just getting the kill itself. That's why people fire on ho's, high deflection shots, gang bang, vulch, cherry pick and other things.
It doesn't matter how they get a kill, they just want a kill.
What they fail to realize is that this game isn't about getting kills. It's about having fun with the person you are fighting with and against.
It's what you say Kermit. It's quite simple to understand. And, all this changing arenas this way and that way is basically just a method to try and get the two different worlds (worm and non-worm) to get along in some way or another. Basically speaking that is. My .02
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Dive past me while I fight 10 guys,
arent u the "friendly" type?
that single uppers gotta die,
Cappin field? what a lie,
Acm's have gone bye bye,
ACk got you and Im still alive!,
a big WOOOOOOOOOO!WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in your eye :)
is this the AH poetry forum heeeeeheeeeee! off to the ma!
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FLS, you have made these forums worth reading again.:aok :aok :aok :D
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FLS and Jaxxo they were funny rimes good work :rofl :aok :p
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Flying past the already airborne defenders in the hopes of getting one vulch before those already up smoke you... that's not exactly Air Superiority. That's just being desperate.
True, but Ground Superiority just sounds silly. :D
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Originally posted by FLS
I like to vulch you on the deck
yer low and slow and soon to wreck
Another field is yours to use
instead my choices you abuse
I like to run from Zekes and Spits
you can't catch me and don't get hits
A faster plane you too could fly
but if you catch me you would die
You turn and burn but I don't whine
You pay yer fee and I pay mine.
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Originally posted by The Fury
i dnt mind getting vulched aslong as it is already capped by the enemy but to fly through a group of enemys to vulch a field is pathetic what sort of a person does this?
The kind that likes to see meltdown's on 200 and the board. :rofl
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Its a sad thing to see, and those guys will not get any better at the game, because they wont risk themselves to actually learn anything. If they get caught, they just flail around and either auger or get shot down, so they roll another LA-7 and climb to 18k again, for another 600mph pass at another base, to HO some dude rolling on the runway, because they cant score any other way, I guess.