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Title: Rome total war question
Post by: mosgood on October 18, 2006, 12:06:23 AM
How do you keep the senate happy enough to keep them from demanding the head of your faction leader?


Also, how do academy's really help?  ANyone see a difference in how the cities are run?  Or does it effect the quality of family members?
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Saintaw on October 18, 2006, 12:13:55 AM
1: You're not supposed to, this is a hint you should attack SPQR.

2: If you have generals in the cities with academies, they will have retinue members joining frequently. The latest patch is supposed to have the academies rise the satisfaction of your population in that city, but it's bugged... you will need to do some file editing if you want that.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 18, 2006, 01:08:43 AM
kill the senate, they are greedy, ignorant, selfish dogs. kill them and rape thier sheep.


all you need is some archers, a couple of strong cohorts and some mercenary hoplites. the heavy siege weapons are not needed to defeat the senates gold army but they help. just north west of rome is a river that has severval crossings. leave your army on the bridge and wait to defend. hoplites and legionaries right up at the bridge with projectiles covering the sides will hold anything they can throw at you if you control your archers well. almost all infantry holds shields on the left arm, so from an advancing army's right flank is where projectiles will do the damage.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 18, 2006, 09:14:38 AM
See, I don't actually capture rome.  One of the win conditions is that you capture rome, no matter what faction.  

If you never capture rome, you can keep playing forever.


So I just crush any armies that come out of rome.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Saintaw on October 18, 2006, 09:40:52 AM
You can also keep on playing as long as you want after finishing the victory conditions.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 18, 2006, 11:21:47 AM
It never allowed me to.  Once I got 50 cities, taken out rival faction and taken rome, the game ended promptly.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Saintaw on October 18, 2006, 11:44:22 AM
It must be that french version I am using...

Or maybe it'ss due to a mod, possibly.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 18, 2006, 12:30:33 PM
on the rome total realism mod you can keep playing. but anyhow i was just talking about kiling the senate, way before you get to 50 settlements, to stop the bastards ordering you about on the original rome total war version.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 18, 2006, 12:48:01 PM
I personally was playing the senate from the beginning.  By the time they asked for the head of my faction leader, both Brutii and Scipio sided with me without hesitation.

It was very cool to keep up those alliances and fight on to the end with my roman brothers.
Title: Re: Rome total war question
Post by: Red Tail 444 on October 18, 2006, 05:36:55 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
How do you keep the senate happy enough to keep them from demanding the head of your faction leader?


Give them free beer and underage cheerleaders?
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 18, 2006, 05:55:13 PM
*Underage pages.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: mosgood on October 18, 2006, 09:31:47 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I personally was playing the senate from the beginning.  By the time they asked for the head of my faction leader, both Brutii and Scipio sided with me without hesitation.

It was very cool to keep up those alliances and fight on to the end with my roman brothers.


How do you do you get that type of standing wth the other factions?  Is it by being popular with the people... or ???
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 18, 2006, 10:43:15 PM
Very difficult.  You damn near have to be buying them off from the getgo.  Though I was trying to do it.

I loaned out legions to them, I sent money when they were in trouble.  I gave them information...

And even then Scipii wasn't sure they wanted to back me when rome turned on me.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Pooh21 on October 19, 2006, 01:29:32 AM
How do you keep your citys from degenerating to a squalor filled mess. I have to let them rebel then exterminate them all every few years. I build the admin building the second it upgrades and keep growth down, but squalor still goes up and up.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 19, 2006, 09:08:11 AM
It also depends on how you take other cities.  There's 3 options.  One of them is to take everyone as a slave.

This increases the squalor in all of your cities, because suddenly there's 500 more people in there.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 19, 2006, 09:26:31 AM
After I took Rome it got boring for me. My armies were so large then that the brother households had no chance aganst me and rather avoided me. Those pesky Egyptians were still putting up a good fight tho.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Elfie on October 19, 2006, 10:30:57 AM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
How do you keep your citys from degenerating to a squalor filled mess. I have to let them rebel then exterminate them all every few years. I build the admin building the second it upgrades and keep growth down, but squalor still goes up and up.



Sewers, Public Baths, Aqueducts all help keep squalor down.

In cities where public order constantly becomes an issue, I just keep around 10 units as a garrison, then let the people riot. When the riot happens, thousands of civilians die, some of my soldiers die. I retrain the units (which reduces the population). Sometimes it takes several turns for the riots to stop, but when they do all the malcontents are gone. You can also keep spies in your own cities, this helps keep unrest down as well.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: B@tfinkV on October 19, 2006, 11:21:38 AM
take a diplomat to you enemy and give them the troubles regions as a gift. now immidiately recapture the settlement (they dont get a garrison if you give them as a gift) and exterminate the populace.

no more riots.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: mosgood on October 19, 2006, 11:33:07 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
take a diplomat to you enemy and give them the troubles regions as a gift. now immidiately recapture the settlement (they dont get a garrison if you give them as a gift) and exterminate the populace.

no more riots.



Awesome!
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: moot on October 19, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
Has anyone tried Medieval:TW 2?
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: john9001 on October 19, 2006, 01:03:38 PM
i'm still fighting civil war generals 2....damm yankees.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Regular on October 19, 2006, 01:27:56 PM
MTW2 is out already?

I thought just the demo is out.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Urchin on October 19, 2006, 01:53:43 PM
MTW2 isnt out till november.

I may have to talk myself into buying that one... I've gotten lost in every single one of those games when I bought them though.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Bluedog on October 19, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
Constantly training units of peasants and sending them off to the frontier regions helps keep squalor down.
When you take an enemy province, exterminate the population and move in peasants from one of your large cities, when they get there, disband them inside the city and they become the new citizens.

This doesnt solve the problem, merely moves it to another city, but I find it to be a very usefull tactic at times.
Title: Rome total war question
Post by: Elfie on October 20, 2006, 12:40:47 AM
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Constantly training units of peasants and sending them off to the frontier regions helps keep squalor down.
When you take an enemy province, exterminate the population and move in peasants from one of your large cities, when they get there, disband them inside the city and they become the new citizens.

This doesnt solve the problem, merely moves it to another city, but I find it to be a very usefull tactic at times.


That is also a good tactic to raise the population of a city (like Sparta) where the population just stops growing no matter what you do.