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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Golfer on October 18, 2006, 10:30:17 PM
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Is it possible to take an ethernet cable from a laptop to a desktop and have them connect to one another for the purpose of sending files from the laptop to the desktop?
If so...how :)
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You need a "hub" ("switch", "concentrator") box, or simply a special cable (crossover). If you have networking people at work - just ask them to make such a cable for you, or go buy it in a nearest computer shop.
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Is this something I can make by chopping up a few ethernet cables? I've got those!
I took a look at bestbuy.com and they have a 14' one for 25 bucks so I'm not feeling bad at all.
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Yeah, a "crossover" or a "patch" cable will work. They also have software specifically for this at best buy or office depot or where ever.
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If I bought a crossover from best buy (looked at a Geek Squad unit online) do I need software in addition to that or will it be an option in my "network connections" list?
Thanks
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Honestly, I couldn't tell you as I've never done this. But from what I understand the software makes it alot easier. I sold quite a few of them when I worked at Office Depot a while back.
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It depends on your OS, but usually you don't need anything else.
If you have a standard RJ-45 TP patch-cord you can easily make a crossover yourself: cut it in two and connect green wires on one end to orange on other. White-orange to white-red, solid orange to solid red. You need to simply connect "transmit" wires on one end to "recieve" wires on another, and vice versa. If you have some adhesive insulating tape - it's no problem at all.
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is an RJ-45 a regular ethernet cord? I'm very much retarded in these matters
I've got a patch cord that the cable guy left here with my modem. It has "patch cord" printed on the side with the white/orange/green/blue wires.
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cant you just buy USB cables to do this?
edit
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248
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"lol"
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whats funny in that?
there is many other methods to transfer files between PC's
wireles to wireles
usb to usb, serial to serial
if you have desktop connected to dsl or cable, just pick up router and go wireless, create workgroup and use it for both of your computers
or if you like you can connect both of them by cable via router
If desktop is not connected to internet buy cheap wireless card and use peer to peer connection. I assume you do have wireless in your laptop?
If you dont like to buy PCI wireless card, buy cheap router .In this case works same as wireles acces point or you can buy wireless acces point.
If distance is no issue , buy USB cables. If distance is a isssue, go wireless , dont bother with wires.
cost of solution is 20$+/- 10$ depends on what you pick
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Originally posted by ramzey
cant you just buy USB cables to do this?
edit
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248
the guy asked if he could use an ethernet cable...please follow along:rolleyes:
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The fastest solution would be firewire to firewire if you have them on both. I belive that is actually faster than gigabit to gigabit patch cabeling even if gb is faster in theory.
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Originally posted by Golfer
Is this something I can make by chopping up a few ethernet cables? I've got those!
I took a look at bestbuy.com and they have a 14' one for 25 bucks so I'm not feeling bad at all.
You can get a router for $25. BTW a generic cat 5 / crossover is $9 or $10 at a place like Frys.
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you coulda burned it to a dvd by now :)
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What do you have on hand? Do both of your computers have wired network adapters? Do you have ethernet cables? Does either of your computers have a wireless adapter?
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the file i want to send is too big for a cd. It's about 1.5GB.
I have a firewire...hmmm...will see what that does.
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Originally posted by Golfer
the file i want to send is too big for a cd. It's about 1.5GB.
I have a firewire...hmmm...will see what that does.
Of course you would need firewire on both computers and a cable to connect them. If both of your computers have an ehternet port and you already have 2 ethernet cables then buying the cheapest hub you can find would probably be easiest. If you have ethernet ports but no cables then a crossover cable would probably be cheapest. Networking is built in to Windows 95 and up though you may have to enable file sharing. Once you get the hardware ready tell us and I or someone else can tell you how to transfer your file.
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well I have the firewire cable connected. got the little "ding" from both computers saying somethin is there.
I tried setting up a direct connection...but can't seem to connect from the desktop to the laptop.
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You'll need to configure a few things on both pcs and turn file and print sharing on for the computer that has the file you want to xfer. assuming it has Windows XP you can do this by going into the control panel, network connections, right click and choose properties on the 1394 (firewire connection). Select internet protocol (tcp/ip) and change the ip address from configure automatically to manually and enter 192.168.0.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Then the the same for the other pc but use 192.168.0.2 instead.
Then enable file and print sharing on the pc with the file. If it is in the list with the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) check the box if it's not. If it's not listed there click install and choose it from the list.
Once that's done you need to share the file/folder. Right click the folder the file is in and choose share.
Now, from the otehr computer click start-run and type \\othercomputername The share should then be listed. Open it, find your file and copy and paste.
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you da man!
Worked like a champ! I can't thank you enough!
I think somewhere I went wrong but when I used the "search" function I was able to search for the computer name (laptop) and found the shared documents file through that.
It may be hokey, redneck and the poor mans network but by golly it worked :) Thanks again!
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Name resolution can be iffy. Should have told you to type start-run \\othercomputersipaddress. Glad you got it. :aok
Better clarify, that would be start-run \\192.168.0.2 or \\192.168.0.1 depending on which computer you are on.
If neither firewire adapter had never or at least not recently been used (as I suspect) it probably wouldn't be necessary to assign an ip address. They should default to a Microsoft standard of 169.x.x.x. The only problem with using that is they might be the same which won't work or one of them might have been used at some point giving it another network address which also wouldn't work.
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200 gig external drive back up :) Plug it in one laptop, download, unplug and replug into 2nd laptop. Mission Accomplished!
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
the guy asked if he could use an ethernet cable...please follow along:rolleyes:
as i said, there is many other and safer ways then playing with soldering ,cables and laptop
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Wow...I could have used this thread 2 months ago :> had a hell of a time transferring files from laptop to desktop using a crossover. My problem was the connection was there I just couldnt "see" the other computer. Believe me I searched all over the net, and answers couldnt have been more vague.
This would be nice for a sticky as I'm sure many want to do this when upgrading.
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Use a Patch cable,
Set up the TCP stack on both systems as follows,
ip Address on system one: 192.168.1.100
subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
gateway of 192.168.1.1
Second system:
ip address on system 2: 192.168.1.101
subnetmask of 255.255.255.0
gateway of 192.168.1.1
to make sure the systems can see each other open a command line on one of the system and ping the other ip address i.e. from system one type ping 192.168.1.101
if it can see the other computer you will get a response.
once this works
you can either share the directory you want to copy back ad forth too or you can map the drive (use the administartors account and you you can map the hidden share using the following:
\\192.168.1.101\C$ and connect as the administrator of system 2
this will map the complete C drive to the other computer
Cheers
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this post definately needs to be sticky.
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i cheat the other way ... load messenger on bolth pc's open it up and swap the file ..
if you open the pc's up for File sharing beshure you password protect everything . just remember if not done correctly it leaves a backdoor open . or a ip addy that can be seen to others
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how to make crossover cable out of patch cable
http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-ethernet-crossover.asp
(ya have to give each machine a similar tcp/ip adddress)