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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Overlag on October 20, 2006, 09:51:23 AM
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EW: no fights
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MW: no fights
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LW1: fights, but i cant get in
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LW2: no fights
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Originally posted by Overlag
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all i asked for was 1x200 player arena during offpeak times.... and i get deleted? :confused:
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Originally posted by DaPup
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Guess I struck a nerve :cry
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Yeah, arenas are still broken. I had bunches and bunches of good fights for a long time, but when it got later last night, I couldn't find a fight unless I wanted to fly 50 or more miles to find 1 or 2 guys. Flying that far is one thing, but when I get there they are gone and I flew that far for nothing.
It seems to me that it is not how many people in the arena its self that is good or bad, it doesn't really matter. Trick is getting the right amount of people flying the right part of the map at the same time, so things are ballanced.
I don't know much about this game, but would somebody please tell me if any of these ideas would work. Somebody please comment, ty.
1) Have caps on the number of people that can take off from a particular base? Wouldn't this help solve the population problem?
2) If there are only a few people in an arena, have automatic shut down for some of the basses to concentrate things at other bases. Open more bases as more players enter the arena.
3) As it is now, the teams can't really get to each other all the time. For instance, the bish and the rooks may have a great fight going way far down south on the map, but no knight can get there unless they fly 200 miles. Why not have the map broken into maybe 4 quadrants with bases from all three teams in each quadrant. This would solve that problem.
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Originally posted by Clutz
Yeah, arenas are still broke. I had bunches and bunches of good fights for a long time, but when it got later last night, I couldn't find a fight unless I wanted to fly 50 or more miles to find 1 or 2 guys. Flying that far is one thing, but when I get there they are gone and I flew that far for nothing.
It seems to me that it is not how many people in the arena its self that is good or bad, it doesn't really matter. Trick is getting the right amount of people flying the right part of the map at the same time, so things are ballanced.
I don't know much about this game, but would somebody please tell me if any of these ideas would work. Somebody please comment,ty.
1) Have caps on the number of people that can take off from a particular base? Wouldn't this help solve the population problem?
2) If there are only a few people in an arena, have automatic shut down for some of the basses to concentrate things at other bases.
3) As it is now, the teams can't really get to each other all the time. For instance, the bish and the rooks may have a great fight going way far down south on the map, but no knight can get there unless they fly 200 miles. Why not have the map broken into maybe 4 quadrants with bases from all three teams in each quadrant. This would solve that problem.
1) Have caps on the number of people that can take off from a particular base? Wouldn't this help solve the population problem?
This has been brought up before and it didn't fly ... most said that it would be too limiting.
2) If there are only a few people in an arena, have automatic shut down for some of the basses to concentrate things at other bases.
Could also be too limiting for some.
3) As it is now, the teams can't really get to each other all the time. For instance, the bish and the rooks may have a great fight going way far down south on the map, but no knight can get there unless they fly 200 miles. Why not have the map broken into maybe 4 quadrants with bases from all three teams in each quadrant. This would solve that problem.
My suggestion and what I do all the time ... I switch to a country that is involved in a fight. I have no allegiance to any country and if you do, then this will pose a problem.
You said you are new ... well there is a "Map Maker" program available ... you might want to take a stab at creating that kind of map and submitting it to HTC. They do take and encourage player made maps. Most maps that you fly on were made by players.
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I was on from about 7PM CST until 1AMCST. Lazer, Soulyss and I started out in Latewar2 and found nothing but fights the entire time. About 11PMCST Shuffler and Treize showed up and couldn't get into Late2 so we all went to Midwar. We brawled until 1AMCST in there non-stop.
We did switch to the low numbers side, which might have helped too.
Maybe that's not late enough to see the impact but I flew longer and fought more consistantly and constantly last night then I had in a long time. It was a blast :)
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i was on last evening around 10pm est(maybe a little later),
it was
EW:38(or so)
MW had 80+
and the 2 LA: had over 200 each
sorry i didnt have the foresight to take screen shots
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I was on from about 7PM CST until 1AMCST. Lazer, Soulyss and I started out in Latewar2 and found nothing but fights the entire time. About 11PMCST Shuffler and Treize showed up and couldn't get into Late2 so we all went to Midwar. We brawled until 1AMCST in there non-stop.
We did switch to the low numbers side, which might have helped too.
Maybe that's not late enough to see the impact but I flew longer and fought more consistantly and constantly last night then I had in a long time. It was a blast :)
I don't believe you for one second !!!!!!!!! :p
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Originally posted by Clutz
1) Have caps on the number of people that can take off from a particular base? Wouldn't this help solve the population problem?
2) If there are only a few people in an arena, have automatic shut down for some of the basses to concentrate things at other bases.
3) As it is now, the teams can't really get to each other all the time. For instance, the bish and the rooks may have a great fight going way far down south on the map, but no knight can get there unless they fly 200 miles. Why not have the map broken into maybe 4 quadrants with bases from all three teams in each quadrant. This would solve that problem.
1) Yep, old fashioned "zone limits". The mission maker would need some retooling. But, the "O" weenies should love it...more "organization" for them to do. :)
2) My guess would be that something along this line is coming...in 2 weeks. :)
3) I KNOW there will be changes to deal with this issue. One will be terrains with better balance in field layout.
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Originally posted by Junkit
i was on last evening around 10pm est(maybe a little later),
it was
EW:38(or so)
MW had 80+
and the 2 LA: had over 200 each
sorry i didnt have the foresight to take screen shots
@ 10pm Central, Early War showed 68 on, Mid War about 105, Late 1 was at 200, Late 2 was around 200. Didn't take screenshots either, was too busy with my DSL randomly disco'ing. :(
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Originally posted by indy007
@ 10pm Central, Early War showed 68 on, Mid War about 105, Late 1 was at 200, Late 2 was around 200. Didn't take screenshots either, was too busy with my DSL randomly disco'ing. :(
Yep those numbers look right to me as well. We went to Midwar shortly after that.
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Originally posted by Junkit
i was on last evening around 10pm est(maybe a little later),
it was
EW:38(or so)
MW had 80+
and the 2 LA: had over 200 each
sorry i didnt have the foresight to take screen shots
US prime time isnt the ONLY time this game runs
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Originally posted by Overlag
US prime time isnt the ONLY time this game runs
So best thing to do is at a certain point, based on numbers, send them all to one arena? I suppose that makes some sense. So force em all into Midwar :)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
So best thing to do is at a certain point, based on numbers, send them all to one arena? I suppose that makes some sense. So force em all into Midwar :)
yes totaly agree.
i think the changes are GREAT, for prime time as it evens out the playing fields, and keeps one arena out growing the others. all arenas should be setup this way, to avoid the problem in a few months when the caps need to change on the MW arena.
However this change (well the first change last month) is absolutely terrible for offpeak hours.
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I went offline and shot at drones for 30mins I was so board.
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Originally posted by parin
I went offline and shot at drones for 30mins I was so board.
hehe, yeah could be more interesting :) :lol
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CC!
It's a big YawnFest in their now. HTC your killing what made this game so much fun...
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Maybe you could get more from your country or time zone to join :aok
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I was on from about 7PM CST until 1AMCST. Lazer, Soulyss and I started out in Latewar2 and found nothing but fights the entire time. About 11PMCST Shuffler and Treize showed up and couldn't get into Late2 so we all went to Midwar. We brawled until 1AMCST in there non-stop.
We did switch to the low numbers side, which might have helped too.
Maybe that's not late enough to see the impact but I flew longer and fought more consistantly and constantly last night then I had in a long time. It was a blast :)
I sense someone is about to not quit again. :(
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Originally posted by Overlag
yes totaly agree.
i think the changes are GREAT, for prime time as it evens out the playing fields, and keeps one arena out growing the others. all arenas should be setup this way, to avoid the problem in a few months when the caps need to change on the MW arena.
However this change (well the first change last month) is absolutely terrible for offpeak hours.
I disagree Overlag. I've been getting on between 4am and 5am Est time and signing off at 5:30am to go to work. Sure there's very few on at that time compared to peek times, but yet I still manage to find some very good fights rather quickly. Ofcourse some times I have to change countries to find the action, but the action is there.
Lambo
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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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Originally posted by SuperDud
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
thanks for your contribution to this topic
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Originally posted by E25280
I sense someone is about to not quit again. :(
As near as I can tell I am completely clueless about all that's wrong with Aces High as I keep having fun.
Someday I'll figure it out and get miserable. But until then I'm not quitting! :)
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Well overlag considering this is about the 3rd or 4th topic by you that says the same thing, it's getting pretty comical and/or redundant. We get it, you don't like the changes.
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I think he's hoping that if he posts enough, he'll seem like a majority.
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Battlefield2 is starting to look real interesting.:(
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Originally posted by BMnot
Battlefield2 is starting to look real interesting.:(
AW 1 would be more playable/fun then AH is right now, and thats very sad.
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I dont think the "majority" even look at the bb's. Looks to be about 10 people that post, ok 11 people! :) It is awfully spread out now. Arenas everywhere, I'm so confused. :0
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Well overlag considering this is about the 3rd or 4th topic by you that says the same thing, it's getting pretty comical and/or redundant. We get it, you don't like the changes.
1st topic that i remember.......hmmmmm :rolleyes:
(the other topic was BEFORE the 2nd changes, which infact made it worse, hence this)
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Originally posted by whels
AW 1 would be more playable/fun then AH is right now, and thats very sad.
ive been having fun loads in AHII.. its just now i have to wait till 1-2am before its fun.......
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I think he's hoping that if he posts enough, he'll seem like a majority.
oh crap someone worked out my master plan :eek: :lol
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honestly i don't know how you guys keep crying about not finding any fights i have no problem finding a good fight.Or is your idea of a good fight vulching and cherry picking?
follow me around in the MA and we will find plenty of fights.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
honestly i don't know how you guys keep crying about not finding any fights i have no problem finding a good fight.Or is your idea of a good fight vulching and cherry picking?
follow me around in the MA and we will find plenty of fights.
what time do you play?
play between 12 and 6pm BST and you will see what the "problem" is.
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what time do you play?
whenever i get the urge for some dogfighting.when ever my free time dictates it.when it's not gonna take away from family time.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
I think he's hoping that if he posts enough, he'll seem like a majority.
hey - it's working for you and laz......
:)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I was on from about 7PM CST until 1AMCST. Lazer, Soulyss and I started out in Latewar2 and found nothing but fights the entire time. About 11PMCST Shuffler and Treize showed up and couldn't get into Late2 so we all went to Midwar. We brawled until 1AMCST in there non-stop.
We did switch to the low numbers side, which might have helped too.
Maybe that's not late enough to see the impact but I flew longer and fought more consistantly and constantly last night then I had in a long time. It was a blast :)
Great,
Now send me 2500€ per month so I can leave my job and play AH at night instead of spleeping.
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Guppy,
I am just wondering... how does it help the people who cannot find the fights in their timezones or cannot enter "full" arenas to tell them that YOU can always find fight and are always having fun?
Good for you, I wish we all had such luck, but your luck does not help those who do not have what you have!
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I was on from about 7PM CST until 1AMCST. Lazer, Soulyss and I started out in Latewar2 and found nothing but fights the entire time. About 11PMCST Shuffler and Treize showed up and couldn't get into Late2 so we all went to Midwar. We brawled until 1AMCST in there non-stop.
We did switch to the low numbers side, which might have helped too.
Maybe that's not late enough to see the impact but I flew longer and fought more consistantly and constantly last night then I had in a long time. It was a blast :)
Guppy, this has little to do with changing sides.
There IS a problem finding fights during Euro times. Some days i get lucky and manage to pick a fight that lasts for a bit. Most days I dont - then i have the choice of milkrunnin or logging. Will probably be found in TA then.
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
hey - it's working for you and laz......
:)
:aok
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bish / knight / rook @ 15:40 CET
EW: 7 / 7 / 9
MW: 3 / 5 / 5
LW1: 121 of 120 - can't join
LW2: 1 / 3 / 3
the new cap may be great at peak times, but here's no "war" to join offpeak. hardly to play any mission, and if yet it becomes a milkrun...
i would advice against this cap at offpeak.
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Originally posted by sveno
bish / knight / rook @ 15:40 CET
EW: 7 / 7 / 9
MW: 3 / 5 / 5
LW1: 121 of 120 - can't join
LW2: 1 / 3 / 3
the new cap may be great at peak times, but here's no "war" to join offpeak. hardly to play any mission, and if yet it becomes a milkrun...
i would advice against this cap at offpeak.
doh, you beat me too it.... (or, the LW's to have a starting cap of 60, that way we would have two arenas with 60ish people which wouldnt be so bad.)
Originally posted by Sweet2th
whenever i get the urge for some dogfighting.when ever my free time dictates it.when it's not gonna take away from family time.
i got the urge to play now, but i cant because theres no arenas i can join.
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I truly wish there was some "carrot approach" to divide players to more than one arena (when/since that is required).
The current "stick approach" may cause more log-offs than build-up for the emptier arenas :(
Btw. Folks.. there is a North Africa Close Escort event at SEA tonight... 20:00 GMT. Walkons welcome!
Fights guaranteed, no arena cap :aok
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the new cap may be great at peak times, but here's no "war" to join offpeak. hardly to play any mission, and if yet it becomes a milkrun...
the way i read it was that when one arena was appraoching full capacity the cap limit on it went up or it places you in the other arena automatically.I can see somewhat why no one can find a fight because to get some of these AH players to fight now a days you have to turn around and show them your 6 before they will get the courage to fight.Now i am not saying that this person is you overlag, but i just don't see how you can't find any fights when the rest of us are having no problems time zones or not.Sometimes the fight will find you.
Personally i like the new arena set up compared to the old way.In the old MA there was to much LAG, to many LA and spit 16 dweebs everywhere, nothing but cherry pickers and vulchers.Now just about all of that is gone and the fun that i enjoyed before the AH commercials came out is back.
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how can i find a fight if theres only 2 or 3 people on?:confused:
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Originally posted by Overlag
how can i find a fight if theres only 2 or 3 people on?:confused:
Oh, for Pete's sake...
Call out where you are. Find out where they are. Meet somewhere in between.
- oldman
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I do not see any way that HT can make,anyone happy here as things are. The only way to balance sides and arenas is to assgin everyone to a arena and side when they log on. I don't like doing it like that but only fair way, Yes, squads would be a thing of the past but how else to do it, mite not get to fly with your friends due to the luck of the draw. Of course would not have to worry about it for long because AH would not last long.
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Oh, for Pete's sake...
Call out where you are. Find out where they are. Meet somewhere in between.
- oldman
i didnt come here for 1 on 1's though
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MW arena's numbers were up a few nights this week because i brought a mega squad into that arena so that we could fly together. thats the only reason its numbers were up on certain nights.so that we could fly together and to be truthfull thats the only reason we went there. on those nights, the knight side severly out numbered the other country's. the whole thing was kinda boring. but with the new changes. looks like every one will either have to addapt or make other changes.
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yeah i think MW is finaly getting the numbers it deserves... might need two arenas soon ;)
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Go to 2 countries.
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Originally posted by BMnot
Go to 2 countries.
If you think sides are unbalanced NOW, youll be surprised. Two sides wont work in MAs.