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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kuhn on October 20, 2006, 11:10:12 AM
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For all the complaining of the new setup. I must say I like the change. I can go to MW and up a p-47 and actually get kills. I can up in EW in a P-40-b and actually survive to RTB. There must be more people in AH that do like the format the way it is now. I have been in the EW and MW so much that I have not been in my usual hangout, The AVA (sorry Oldman).
Soooo what do you all like about the new format?
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Originally posted by Kuhn
For all the complaining of the new setup. I must say I like the change. I can go to MW and up a p-47 and actually get kills. I can up in EW in a P-40-b and actually survive to RTB. There must be more people in AH that do like the format the way it is now. I have been in the EW and MW so much that I have not been in my usual hangout, The AVA (sorry Oldman).
Soooo what do you all like about the new format?
i love the fights, and the great players you meet in the EW and MW.
LW is full of the same dweebs as the old MA, hence why they're all complaining about it.
i LOVE the change, i can finally get some great one on ones, or some nice sized furballs, where there are no uber planes zipping about.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i love the fights, and the great players you meet in the EW and MW.
LW is full of the same dweebs as the old MA, hence why they're all complaining about it.
i LOVE the change, i can finally get some great one on ones, or some nice sized furballs, where there are no uber planes zipping about.
Your post is just silly, I'm a dweeb because I liked LW? lol Who's really the dweeb?
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I love the new setup and spent most of my time in MW.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
i love the fights, and the great players you meet in the EW and MW.
LW is full of the same dweebs as the old MA, hence why they're all complaining about it.
i LOVE the change, i can finally get some great one on ones, or some nice sized furballs, where there are no uber planes zipping about.
Exactly, The fights are better! More flying less hoeing. It's all good!
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Originally posted by DaPup
Your post is just silly, I'm a dweeb because I liked LW? lol Who's really the dweeb?
When ya get right down to it ... we are all dweebs ... :D
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I like nothing about the new setup. There is enough change in real life.
My haven in the virtual world should remain consistant and enjoyable.
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Slap that's my point though. I'm so sorry that I liked an arena with 500 people in it, why should I feel like an bellybutton because of it? I'm not a strat guy or a griefer. Yet at every turn I see all the guys who like the new arenas and play there 90% of their time tell me what a noob dweeb I must be to play in there. I say I'm glad that arenas were created that let everyone enjoy what they liked....except me...I guess.
Kind of reminds me of AW with the FR vs. RR rift, this will never be a conjoined community.
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pup, i think you misunderstood.
what i mean by saying that the LW is full of the same old dweebs, i mean all the hordes of spit16s and la7s, something im very happy to say goodbye too ;)
i pop into the LW every now and then, have plenty of fun too :)
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Originally posted by DaPup
Slap that's my point though. I'm so sorry that I liked an arena with 500 people in it, why should I feel like an bellybutton because of it? I'm not a strat guy or a griefer. Yet at every turn I see all the guys who like the new arenas and play there 90% of their time tell me what a noob dweeb I must be to play in there. I say I'm glad that arenas were created that let everyone enjoy what they liked....except me...I guess.
Kind of reminds me of AW with the FR vs. RR rift, this will never be a conjoined community.
Understood ... if you want to fly in the LW then knock yourself out. I don't believe that I have ever called anyone a dweeb because they fly there ... I just have a problem with those who constantly lobby to get rid of the new arenas ... for whatever reason ... cause that is where I am having my most fun.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Understood ... if you want to fly in the LW then knock yourself out. I don't believe that I have ever called anyone a dweeb because they fly there ... I just have a problem with those who constantly lobby to get rid of the new arenas ... for whatever reason ... cause that is where I am having my most fun. [/QUOTE
yeah, what he said!
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Originally posted by SlapShot
When ya get right down to it ... we are all dweebs ... :D
Ehem...I beg to differ. I am a committed banana. :D
Well, I could just be a banana that needs to be committed. :confused:
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I like it a lot.
Flew late2 last night for a long time with a squaddie. We went low numbers side and were in a constant brawl for 4-5 hours. Naturally it was nothing but N1Ks, Spit 16s, 190D9s and LA7s.
Great fun killing em and getting killed in return.
Went to Midwar later and flew for 2-3 more hours. It was nothing but F6Fs, Zeros and Seafire IIcs in a constant brawl.
Great fun killing em and getting killed in return.
I was in my 38G the entire time in both arenas. It was also the longest I've flown in one stretch in a long time.
Having the option to fly in a different setting with different plane matchups is great :)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Having the option to fly in a different setting with different plane matchups is great :)
Agreed! Had my first couple of rides in LW since the change this morning. The game remains the same there. The matchups in the other 2 arenas are a refreshing change of pace.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
Ehem...I beg to differ. I am a committed banana. :D
Well, I could just be a banana that needs to be committed. :confused:
Ok ... so your a banana ... now who is it that's a PUTZ ? ... I forget.
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im happy with the new setup (ew, mw, lw) but im not happy with the population in the arenas.. thats pressing the issue.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
I love the new setup and spent most of my time in MW.
ditto. haven't been in LW once since the split. :D
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Poo, I understand and I should have thicker skin. But surely you know you are fanning the flames. Your posts have been nothing short of flaming the last few days...it must be ok though since you like HT's changes...my post was deleted in 5 minutes lol my first deletion!! :lol
Slap, I don't see these "get rid of the ew and mw" threads you speak of. I have said in all my post that I like the new arenas for the fact that it opens the game back up to the guys that didn't like the LW.
With that being said though it seems obvious that the population didn't have enough people in there for HT's taste so he has decided to play god, as is his right since it's his game, and try to limit the LW yet again. In one post he says he would like arenas with 300 people in them....newsflash...that's what he had in LW after the first change.
This game has been going downhill for some time now and it sure isn't the la's and spiteens driving it there all by themselves.
now who is it that's a PUTZ ? ... I forget.
That would be me :D
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With that being said though it seems obvious that the population didn't have enough people in there for HT's taste so he has decided to play god, as is his right since it's his game, and try to limit the LW yet again. In one post he says he would like arenas with 300 people in them....newsflash...that's what he had in LW after the first change.
I think HT was trying to address the issue of LW1 filled to max and LW2 having 20 or so people in it and trying to stop those who could only get into the less populated LW2 from logging off.
I think with this new LW balancer, he is trying to populate the LW arenas evenly. Now I did log in earlier and was able to see what is driving Overlag nuts.
LW1 was maxed and locked at 120/120 ... while L2 was 42/170 ... he would prefer to log into LW1 that has 120 people and now I know why. They way the coad works now, LW2 has to reach 80% of 170 before the max number in LW1 will increase ... when that will happen ... it's a crap shoot.
Maybe both LW arenas need to start with a default max of 125 (half of 250) ... that way one could choose either arena and once either arena hits the the 80% population, then the adjusting begins. This way, those who fly off US prime time may not have to deal with getting locked out or shuffled off to an arena that has the lower population.
Hopefully HT will tweak this new piece of code and make the majority of the LW population happy.
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thanks slap, you understand the issue now?
yes crying like a baby last night wasnt the best way to show it, but i already KNEW what was going to happen this morning, and its why im asking for the oposite of what hitech probably thinks i want...
the cap should be 60 at first, that way we have TWO 60-80 player arenas during off peak periods.. and MW should pick up more players also. hell i been in MW all day because it had more numbers than LW2 :)
i think the new coad is a great way to even it out, but its punishment to people that fly off peak hours.
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Originally posted by Overlag
thanks slap, you understand the issue now?
yes crying like a baby last night wasnt the best way to show it, but i already KNEW what was going to happen this morning, and its why im asking for the oposite of what hitech probably thinks i want...
the cap should be 60 at first, that way we have TWO 60-80 player arenas during off peak periods.. and MW should pick up more players also. hell i been in MW all day because it had more numbers than LW2 :)
i think the new coad is a great way to even it out, but its punishment to people that fly off peak hours.
I believe I do ...
Either upping the start of the balancing or lowering just might work for you guys.
Fingers crossed ... :aok
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SlapShot both now start at 120, and when either hits 80% the other is bumped. Cant realy see any diff with 125 vs 120. Have been considering moveing the 80% to 70%
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Although the low numbers in the wee hours are a little dissapointing, I can assuredly say that I have had the best fights of my AH career in the last few weeks....
Where have I had em... In EWA of corse....
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HiTech, if EW or MW begin to become the arena that fills up will you be looking at splitting it the way LW is with a dynamic cap?
I think HT was trying to address the issue of LW1 filled to max and LW2 having 20 or so people in it and trying to stop those who could only get into the less populated LW2 from logging off.
I agree with you Slap but moving the cap up would seem to be the logical thing to do. I know HT says that to get a sense of community the lower caps are needed but I don't buy into that..my personal opinion.. the griefers will end up in EW and MW now more often and that will start another round of "talks" :lol
As I said earlier the community will never be conjoined, there will always be different agendas within the game which is sure to keep the precious community from getting together and roasting marshmellows by a campfire.
The funny thing is that I consider myself a furballer and yet my views of how the game should be are very much different than many others who like the same play style that I do....I can't help the fact that I liked(to take a quote from HTC) the massive player enviroment that the LW was......sue me :D
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i like the new setup also..
here is why..
although my account has been closed for some time, i still get to read the complains from just about everyone. I've seen more post about people leaving the ever before..
the bbs has never been so active..
:rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by hitech
SlapShot both now start at 120, and when either hits 80% the other is bumped. Cant realy see any diff with 125 vs 120. Have been considering moveing the 80% to 70%
Sorry ... didn't know it was 120 ... the 125 was just a number that I pulled from dividing 250 by 2 where 250 would be an arena max cap.
So no ... not much different I would have to agree.
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youre right dapup,its already starting, my squad went into the MW last night. just so we could all fly together. and i still dont like MW rides but if that what got to be done so we can stay together then we will. but every one in the MW will not like it.
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Beleth, was great running into your group last night, had a Blast :) Sorry about your typhoon though, hope it didn't sink too quickly :p
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i found out later i still hard all my rockets on,, rofl.
makes me think about what woulda happend to that hurri if i didnt have em. hhhmmmmm thinking. sir. it was a blast.
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Well its good to see that there are some that like things the way they are now. I think Hitech is heading in the right direction.
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I think adding all the planes back to the Late War arena's was a step in the wrong direction.
I think both the Early & Mid war arena's need to have some creative perk planes added, one's that won't be overbalanceing. We need a BUNCH of new planes to fill out the planesets for both arena's.
On the positive side, the EWA & MWA community is the best I've seen it in years.
Fights in there tend to be fair, and we need to do more to make sure everyone understands the ground rules.
Maybe we can't stomp out HO's, but we can stop 4 on 1. Anytime you see an enemy con and there is a friendly closer, just back off, hold position, let them fight it out. Then if he's still alive, its your turn.
I went Bish for a bit (60 knights 20 rooks 12 bish) and saw 4 guys pile onto the same F4u. I mean really, if you want that, go back to the LWA.
Overall I see the chance for big things to happen as a direct result of the changes so many whine about. Yes its going to take some time for some of it to show. Yes we need some tweaks & new planes.
But overall this is still the game we love, (or love to hate).
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yep ghost... I pretty much agree that there should be no early and few mid war planes in the LW but... I think everyone realizes that most of those in LW really want and need to have planes there that they can B & z and run away from with no risk to themselves... if there is no way to have a huge advantage they really don't want to play.
some like the challenge of flying early war planes against lalas and such but I doubt there are many... it would be the guys who fly only late war fast planes that would be upset if the sitting ducks weren't there.
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
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It's good to hear some positive aspects of the game talked about. Lets try to keep it that way.:aok
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Originally posted by hitech
SlapShot both now start at 120, and when either hits 80% the other is bumped. Cant realy see any diff with 125 vs 120. Have been considering moveing the 80% to 70%
HiTech, am I doing something wrong? My Squad (all 3 of them) are in LW1, I attempt to join them in LW1 but am repeatedly forced into LW2. How does this promote Squad play? Is there nothing I can do to get into the same arena as my squad, or must everyone log and try to sign in again to get in the same arena? I understand that this setup give you better balance and server performance, but I thought one of your stated goals was to change the mind set from the "heard Mentality" to " I fly with my squad in this arena" OK, so how do I fly with my squad in this arena???
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Originally posted by Traveler
HiTech, am I doing something wrong? My Squad (all 3 of them) are in LW1, I attempt to join them in LW1 but am repeatedly forced into LW2. How does this promote Squad play? Is there nothing I can do to get into the same arena as my squad, or must everyone log and try to sign in again to get in the same arena? I understand that this setup give you better balance and server performance, but I thought one of your stated goals was to change the mind set from the "heard Mentality" to " I fly with my squad in this arena" OK, so how do I fly with my squad in this arena???
All you have to do is go to the arena that's not at cap.
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Originally posted by Kuhn
For all the complaining of the new setup. I must say I like the change. I can go to MW and up a p-47 and actually get kills. I can up in EW in a P-40-b and actually survive to RTB. There must be more people in AH that do like the format the way it is now. I have been in the EW and MW so much that I have not been in my usual hangout, The AVA (sorry Oldman).
Soooo what do you all like about the new format?
I really like it. Maps are way to big for the EW and MW though which in turn serves to keep the numbers down in those two arenas. But other than that its a good format.
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Hubs the grey lettering at the bottom.. is not the same color grey :p
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
All you have to do is go to the arena that's not at cap.
You mean that all the squad members have to do is go to an arena that's not at CAP, right, they all have to log out of the arena they are in and relog in and the system will again place them in an arean that is not near the cap. I say relog because under the new system you don't get to chose which arena you log into, and this must be redone when ever another member of the squad shows up? If members had invested time and engery into a bombing mission or into a long flight as part of a Squad mission. One might end up waiting a long time for the entire squad to be able to fly together.
Doesn't seem to promote Squad play much , does it???
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what happens in LW1 and LW2 when there is a reset in one of the arena, all the players are forced out when the reset happens, they attempt to log in, what are the CAPs at in the reset arena, if the CAPS were at 250 prior to the reset is it now set to 120 after the reset and the 220 or so players are loged into which arean upon reset??? does anyone know, will squads be split and everyone forced to relog to get back into the same arena?
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Yesterday in the AM (EST) LW had like 115 so got sent to LW2 with 10 people. Nothing going on, check EW/MW and the same low numbers so I signed off. like the LW when it has 60 or more playing. People that like low numbers with one on one fights the lownumbers great for for them. I like GV play trying to take bases, I do fly more now but I like a mix that I don't see now, Hope it gets better but don't think it will happen soon. To everyone who does not like the high numbers, take a look at LW when the cap went up. it was 3 to 1 for LW with the high numbers. Alot of us like fast pace action that a large fight gives.
I SEE ONLY ONE WAY THAT A TRUE BALANCE ON ALL SIDES AND AREAS CAN BE HAD AND THAT IS FOR EVERYONE BE ASSIGNED TO A SIDE AND ARENA WHEN THEY LOG ON. Bye Bye Squads, sorry but must be fair to all. Friends, Oh sorry, want to play togather, luck of the draw.
Had my say tonight, have at it and have fun, Ops, did I say fun.;)