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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: whiteman on October 24, 2006, 02:32:25 PM
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Hello everyone, i've seen commercials for this game and finally decided to check the site out. only problem i've never played any type of flight simulator on a CPU much less a PS2.
SO my my question is how far over my head would i be getting to this as my first Flight SIM experience? should i buy some other SIM learn there then bounce over here?
Thanks for any advice guys.
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Come on in, the water is fine.
HiTech
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Whitman, if you have never flown a flight sim before, pc or consol, you should still try Aces High. There is no cost for the software download and you can fly offline and see if its something you want to learn and play. If you like it and think you want to try flying against real people, then your first two weeks online are free. If you decide you're not ready then you're not out any money.
If you think you need more practice you could purchase a box sim and gain some experience that way also.
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Well, we've all started from somewhere. This is as good a place as any other (or in my opinion even better). The game download is free*, these forums are free, so go ahead and try it. There's the help & training section to get you started with a lot of nice people answering your questions. Help files might be a good place to start, see they make any sense to you. If they don't, then it's time for those questions.
So I'd say go ahead and try it. Welcome to AH!
edit: Damn I'm a slow typer, both HT and Airscrew said it faster. :)
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i would go to the training arena first--learn the basics---then when you feel comfortable move on to the ew arena--some good planes in there . then just bounce around awhile in different arenas. make some friends---ask questions--but not too many when you are in a arena---if you have alot of questions or something that might take a while to learn go to the training arena again-----have fun--but there is a fairly steep learnign curve in the arenas.---if i can ever be of any help--look me up--(i,m on the bishop side) cya bud---welcome to the game!!!!!
p.s---go to walmart and get a 20 dollar joystick---it will make this game a whole lot easier!!
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Originally posted by hitech
Come on in, the water is fine.
HiTech
:rofl no joke last time i heard that when i was surfing a lemon shark bit my buddies foot.
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2 week free trial. Check it out. If you're utterly lost at first (very common), stop in the Training Arena (actual real people teaching you actual useful stuff), and there are several player-run websites that offer all sorts of useful info. The game is pretty diverse, featuring all sorts of events and gameplay arenas. There's no real primer game for this that I'm aware of. If you're completely new to flight sims, the learning curve is probably considerably higher than most games, but IMO, well worth the effort. The only things you need are a PC, a joystick and patience. Lots of it. ;)
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Best bet is to do some reading first. Go to trainers.hitechcreations.com and netaces.org to get an understanding of the basics of flying, fighting, and AH2.
You'll also want to get a decent joystick to fly with.
You can practice offline before you set up your account and when you do start flying online you'll find helpful people in the training arena.
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man you guys don't waste time, guess my next question is what joystick should i get? Thanks, i'll be reading those sites for the next couple days.
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Yeah you will be just fine whiteman there is plenty of people who will take care of you if you join there is a training arena were there is always someone to help you out and there is a offline mode too were you can just fly around and do what you want.
There is also a two week free trial so why not just give it a bash for two week and see what you make of it.
I was reletivly(spelled wrong) new to the game when i started but with enough help and practise after a few month i was able to hold my own in the main arenas.:aok
Now its like really addictive best flight sim out there in my oppinion :aok
Anyway hope to see you in the cartoon skies sometime.
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walmart has a saitek 290 pro that sells for bout 20 bucks-----its a decent stick to start with--if you don,t like it--you.re only out 20 bucks--cya
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Originally posted by whiteman
man you guys don't waste time, guess my next question is what joystick should i get? Thanks, i'll be reading those sites for the next couple days.
for just starting out I would keep it inexpensive, a Sateik stick, theres one out there for about $20-25 I think. They're a little sturdier than other sticks and hold up well when thrown against a wall :lol
go to Best Buy, Frys, Comp USA, or your favorite electronics store and try them out, find one that fits your hand best, not all joysticks are alike. Satiek has the Cyborg (i think) thats adjustable but it runs around $50.
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Thanks everyone! made that easy, maybe i'll see some of yall in the next couple weeks.
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Saitek what ever you do.. Also if you like the game it would be wise to upgrade fast when learning. Its a blast and have fun with it. If you get shot down our can hit anything that's what makes this game special. The skill level is very high and unlike other games 1 man that is a good stick equals about 6 newbs. If you into fast twitch games this game is not for you. But if your into 1v1 people yelling check your 6 heart pumping multi cons fights then you will have a blast. Also this game has lots of old farts so not too many squeaker's kids around, their are a few..
BTW beware of the Rook Spitfire 16 around 6,000 feet over your base.. LOL
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Originally posted by FX1
BTW beware of the Rook Spitfire 16 around 56,000 feet over your base.. LOL
dont worry Fx, I fixed it for ya, :aok
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Whiteman, i started playing this game with no prior experience in flight sims either. Theres nothing to loose trying it out, and much to gain.
As has already been said, check out the Trainer Corps homepage http://trainers.hitechcreations.com and http://www.netaces.org to get more familiar with the game, how it works and whats to be expected.
Also, never hesitate to ask questions in the Help and Training Forum if you cant find an answer.
To get help Online, visit the Training Arena (this will trigger your 2 week trial period) - usually a trainer or longtime player there that can help you out.
Or you contact us through our site/per email to Trainers@hitechcreations.com to schedule training, please include your ingame name and times you are available.
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Originally posted by FX1
Saitek what ever you do.. Also if you like the game it would be wise to upgrade fast when learning. Its a blast and have fun with it. If you get shot down our can hit anything that's what makes this game special. The skill level is very high and unlike other games 1 man that is a good stick equals about 6 newbs. If you into fast twitch games this game is not for you. But if your into 1v1 people yelling check your 6 heart pumping multi cons fights then you will have a blast. Also this game has lots of old farts so not too many squeaker's kids around, their are a few..
BTW beware of the Rook Spitfire 16 around 6,000 feet over your base.. LOL
sounds like i'm going to enjoy this. I've played what PS2 calls flight SIMS "Ace Combat" and "Heros of the Pacific" stuff, to arcade and only being able to fly against one other player gets old fast but held me over long enough.
and i'll look out for that spitfire :aok
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Hey White welcome aboard.. I'm in my fifth or six month and this is the first flight sim I've ever done on a pc.
I took my free download and read the help and training boards going back for a year or so. Did the $20 saitek thing to see if it was something I would want to stick with and flew offline for a little over a week just getting used to things. Asked a lot of questions and made plenty of self depricating comments about my skills and managed to get overloaded with info.
Now I'm in a great squad and, even though I suck horribly at the acm, I still love every chance I get to up no matter if it's in the TA, MA, or events that they put on.
I've moved up to CH gear and think it has really helped since my hands never have to leave the stick or throttle.
Bottom line is I hope you enjoy it as much as I have so far.
:aok
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Make sure your PC is up to the task. This is hardly the most demanding 3D game, but I would say something in the AMD 2500xp processor range, or an Intel at the same spec, and a reasonable mid-range 3D graphics card (usually not onboard graphics unless it is one of the hotter onboard solutions offered in the last year or so) are basic requirements. You can get by with less, but the minimum specs noted here (as with such specs in general) would be a pretty rough experience, IMO. If you can play any of the latest first person shooters (HL2, for example) you are more than fine.
Charon
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Originally posted by hitech
Come on in, the water is fine.
HiTech
says the creature with the fin.
:cool:
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Originally posted by whiteman
Hello everyone, i've seen commercials for this game and finally decided to check the site out. only problem i've never played any type of flight simulator on a CPU much less a PS2.
SO my my question is how far over my head would i be getting to this as my first Flight SIM experience? should i buy some other SIM learn there then bounce over here?
Thanks for any advice guys.
You should without a doubt. If you are intrested in flight sims and WW2 you will love it. If you arent you soon will be:aok
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DO NOT BUY A LOGITECH STICK!!!!
I have one and I have to recalibrate it constantly.. God only knows how much my rudder is flapping around between recalibrations.
some day soon my woman is going to buy me some CH gear .. I just know it!:D
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oh .. to answer your question, only join if you like ..
1. flying
or
2. blowing stuff up
or
3. world war 2 era planes tanks etc
or
4. all of the above
The download is free ... how can you go wrong..besides .. everytime a new guy signs up it increases my chances of actually shooting someone down:D ..kinda like a big pyramid scheme but with explosions and stuff:rolleyes:
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^^^^^^
:rofl
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man read the first site suggested, thats a lot to take in. i'm gunna go ahead and start this weekend so yall should have some fresh meat in a couple weeks :cry
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My advice is skip all the smart stuff like learning anything(having never played a flight sim) and just submerge yourself in getting shot up, talked down to, and being called a noob....however you should be warned that you will also meet very kind and helpfull people that(no matter how many times they kill you) will also help you learn and grow in a very hard game to get good at. If you like playing a game for a couple of weeks and get to the point where it's not a challenge so you switch to something else, then AH is not for you...but if you want a game that MAKES you learn real tactics against REAL people then I couldn't tell you a better game than this one. Yeah there is smack talking and yeah it is very frustrating, but any good game involves those things no matter if it's hockey,football, baseball, or a tough faught game of dodgeball...if it's easy it get's boring....this game is not easy....but it's alot of fun.
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White,
This is a great game and lots of fun and there is alot to learn....
As suggested to go netaces OR AH Trainers area and read everything you can about ACM it will help you understand what you need to do
Ive only been playing a couple months and am not a very good stick I get killed alot more than I kill but I have a blast...
If your not sure if your going to like it or not dont invest too much money in a stick and/or headphones/mic you can get along Ok without the real expensive stuff for now...I do recommend a mic as when I was just starting out it was impossible for me to type and fly at same time, now I wont fly without one...
You will find youll get your butt shot off ALOT in the arenas but you will also learn alot from it if you pay attention to why you got killed.
Always keep your awareness up and keep looking around to find that guy sneaking up on from behind etc etc etc..
Film your flights (alt r) so you can see what you did right and what you have done wrong, or what you could have done differently... Youll find your films in the aces high folder.
Find a plane or 2 you are comfortable flying and stick to it to learn the basics in... I had read a spitfire was easy to learn in and that was what I began to learn the basics in (OK BRING ON THE SPIT BASHING)....
Read to know what kind of plane your flying and ensure it fits your style of flying ie Turnfighting or BNZ (boom and zoom)..
my bet is that if your not used to any flight sims at all you may want to try out something that is good at turnfighting... But im very new and there are alot more people on here with more experience than me but thought being a newb myself I could give you the point of view of a newb...
WELCOME TO THE GAME...... YOU'LL LOVE IT.... ITS A BLAST...
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From an old Buffer.
There's a more gentle introduction to AH which is under appreciated. I'm slow and not very good - especially as a fighter pilot. I STILL don't use a stick - I fly by mouse (but there are reasons for this). So for a few years now I fly mainly bombers. The game is (usually) a lot slower, more measured, and frankly more useful for taking strategic objectives - like flattening enemy fighter hangers so that other dudes can more easily take a base.
Of course I sometimes get 'bounced' by enemy fighters flying CAP - but the adrenalin is always useful. I've saved our side several times by taking down enemy CVs while doing a coastal patrol.
My point is - there are missions you can start doing from day one which won't end up with you dying all the time. Even as a newbie you can still make a solid contribution to your team's effort. Meanwhile your learning the lingo, the priorities, tactics, and the different strengths/weaknesses of the planes etc. - so when you do furball, you're not starting completely from scratch.
Example non-furball based missions: -
- Join a sea borne invasion as an LVT2 and drop troops at the map room
- Sneak in low (Bf-110) and de-ack a field prior to an attack
- Hit'n'Run diversion (P38/P47) - take down a radar at some airfield, watch them try and find you as you run away!
- Sneak in low and torpedo a fleet (JU88) - tricky this one
- Tank'vs'Tank (Panzer IV) straight battle - use your ears!
And finally, yes I've found a way to survive at being a fighter pilot in a furball. I'm still not an ace - but hey! I've shot-down people. I'm getting better.
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Originally posted by whiteman
man read the first site suggested, thats a lot to take in. i'm gunna go ahead and start this weekend so yall should have some fresh meat in a couple weeks :cry
Dont try to learn it all at once. Start with the basic flying stuff (takeoff, landing, Basic Flight Maneuvers, basic gunnery (shooting the drones offline). Then hop Online and jump in the cold water - and get some help/training in. Always remember to keep it FUN - its a game, not work.... and you learn better having fun. But dont fool yourself either, you *will* be lower end of the food chain for a while.... youre up against people that have don this for years, sometimes decades :).
Set yourself small goals, that are not too high and far off to achieve. Making small steps (you might not even realize) to get better, in a few weeks youll look back and say: Oh my :).
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Its a big job learning to fly online flight sims. I've been doing it for 10 years & I still suck.
Key is to pace yourself, there is a lot to learn. And a lot of it won't make sense till you've been around a while. Lots of reading, followed by a offline or TA practise session. Repeat daily
Patience! No one masters this in 3 days, or 3 weeks.
Leave your ego at the door, you will die a thousand times.
The idea is to learn something from each.
A good attitude, respect for your fellow pilots, and a cool head will take you far.
But you look like you have that part nailed already.
When you get stuck, screwed up, and can't figure out how to fix it. Email the trainers, thats why they are there. AH has some real gems, so treat them kindly please. :)
Sometime in your first year your going to want to try a big scenario, just for the sheer glory of it. 100s of planes, working together, flying formation, meeting 100's of enemys, man it can get your blood boiling.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Its a big job learning to fly online flight sims. I've been doing it for 10 years & I still suck.
Key is to pace yourself, there is a lot to learn. And a lot of it won't make sense till you've been around a while. Lots of reading, followed by a offline or TA practise session. Repeat daily
Patience! No one masters this in 3 days, or 3 weeks.
Leave your ego at the door, you will die a thousand times.
The idea is to learn something from each.
A good attitude, respect for your fellow pilots, and a cool head will take you far.
But you look like you have that part nailed already.
When you get stuck, screwed up, and can't figure out how to fix it. Email the trainers, thats why they are there. AH has some real gems, so treat them kindly please. :)
Sometime in your first year your going to want to try a big scenario, just for the sheer glory of it. 100s of planes, working together, flying formation, meeting 100's of enemys, man it can get your blood boiling.
This is all great advice.
- oldman
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Originally posted by hitech
Come on in, the water is fine.
HiTech
Carefull, he is selling :D
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Patience! No one masters this in 3 days, or 3 weeks.
Leave your ego at the door, you will die a thousand times.
The idea is to learn something from each.
Actually 3 or 4 weeks with the right people, maybe an hour a day, is all you need. I've seen people hand my arse to me after 3 weeks from signing up. It is also just like any other game. It is easy to some and harder for others, but it can be learned. The key is to find the right people to fight against. They are not where you'd think you'd find them so you have to ask.