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Title: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: LeR3_komentaja on October 27, 2006, 05:54:15 AM: We, the Finnish community in Aces High, have been very worried about the recent
changes which had been made to the arena format. The changes have brought
before us difficulties which we see as threatening to the unity of our
community.

There has been a lot of discussion about this on public forums and some of us
have presented our concern in a questionable manner. We have noticed that the
discussion about the arena format and future of Aces High has also
affected negatively to our general attitude towards Aces High. Thus we have
decided to refrain from publicly criticising the current arena issue.

We hope that HTC keeps in mind the needs and concerns of the player community
and will make the right decisions. From now on we, the Finnish community, will
put all of our energy to strengthening our community, and we wish everybody
will give HTC the necessary space to solve the problems and come up with
solutions that will be best for the future of the game and the communities that
exist because of, and for, Aces High.

On behalf of the Finnish Aces High community,
CO, Flight Regiment 3
Title: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: mipoikel on October 27, 2006, 05:55:34 AM: :aok
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Post by: SASMOX on October 27, 2006, 05:55:50 AM: :aok
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Post by: Vuokko on October 27, 2006, 06:17:58 AM: :aok
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Post by: jokeri on October 27, 2006, 06:27:09 AM: :aok
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Post by: Panzzer on October 27, 2006, 06:33:00 AM: :aok
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Post by: Charge on October 27, 2006, 06:46:14 AM: :aok
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Post by: Jakke on October 27, 2006, 07:05:15 AM: :aok
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Post by: Max on October 27, 2006, 07:16:04 AM: Fins to the left; Fins to the right...

:aok
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Post by: Tilt on October 27, 2006, 07:39:18 AM: Finns always have been a "model" AH community IMO.............

reckon they have earned their Brewster............
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Post by: SkyRock on October 27, 2006, 07:42:05 AM: :aok
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Post by: Ghosth on October 27, 2006, 07:43:19 AM: :aok
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Post by: uberhun on October 27, 2006, 07:46:13 AM: Very Classy Guys!:aok
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Post by: BlauK on October 27, 2006, 07:55:47 AM: :aok
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Post by: Have on October 27, 2006, 08:22:30 AM: :aok
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Post by: Airscrew on October 27, 2006, 08:26:38 AM: :aok WTG Fins.
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Post by: 68Ripper on October 27, 2006, 08:36:05 AM: :aok
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Post by: Xjazz on October 27, 2006, 08:44:52 AM: :aok
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Post by: SereWiz on October 27, 2006, 08:46:14 AM: :aok
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Post by: BugsBunny on October 27, 2006, 09:03:42 AM: wow! I did not realize that half the population of Finland was in this game.

:aok
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Post by: LLv34_Camouflage on October 27, 2006, 09:36:11 AM: :aok

Camo
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Post by: pallero on October 27, 2006, 09:41:45 AM: :aok
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Post by: LLv34_Dictonius on October 27, 2006, 09:58:55 AM: :aok
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Post by: Oldman731 on October 27, 2006, 10:08:40 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Tilt
Finns always have been a "model" AH community IMO.............

Agreed.

- oldman
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Post by: mustard on October 27, 2006, 10:09:18 AM: :aok
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Post by: AirO on October 27, 2006, 11:40:50 AM: :aok
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Post by: Mr No Name on October 27, 2006, 12:31:52 PM: Good luck fellas... Our squad nights have been a bust since this debacle.
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Post by: 68ROX on October 27, 2006, 12:50:30 PM: Miitaa Kuuluu!

(er sorry...so this dosen't get deleted...in English...Finn Power!)

:aok

ROX
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Post by: Dux on October 27, 2006, 12:58:18 PM: :aok
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Post by: Zuum on October 27, 2006, 01:09:19 PM: :aok
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Post by: -pjk-- on October 27, 2006, 01:30:55 PM: :aok
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Post by: navajoboy on October 27, 2006, 01:39:46 PM: :aok

(<-- not finish...or finnish for that matter)
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Post by: Stang on October 27, 2006, 01:44:51 PM: :aok
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Post by: wasq on October 27, 2006, 02:01:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Casinoman
Miitaa Kuuluu

~~:aok~~
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Post by: SkyChimp03 on October 27, 2006, 02:05:45 PM: :aok
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Post by: WMLute on October 27, 2006, 02:21:29 PM: :aok

Good bunch.

I remember fondly during a Thur. SnapShot several Fin's were teaching me how to say mean and insulting things in their native language.

(though in hindsight I bet they were teaching me how to say mean and insluting things about myself. I can just picture them giggling as they hear Lute say things like "i'm a pretty girl" on range vox)
Title: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: Eagler on October 27, 2006, 02:30:41 PM: they are wicked 109 sticks also :aok
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Post by: kanttori on October 27, 2006, 02:31:10 PM: :aok
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Post by: Rocket on October 27, 2006, 02:37:47 PM: :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok

S!
Rocket
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Post by: Nurminen on October 27, 2006, 02:44:44 PM: :aok
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Post by: laho on October 27, 2006, 02:48:02 PM: :aok
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Post by: hubsonfire on October 27, 2006, 02:48:44 PM: If this is some sort of conspiracy, I want in too. :noid

:aok
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Post by: Bizman on October 27, 2006, 03:02:17 PM: :aok

Bizman
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Post by: Iku on October 27, 2006, 03:10:43 PM: :aok
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Post by: Stang on October 27, 2006, 04:04:29 PM: Vihainen lohikaarme!

:aok
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Post by: KAntti on October 27, 2006, 04:07:14 PM: :aok
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Post by: MOIL on October 27, 2006, 10:45:34 PM: Here Here !!!!

:aok
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Post by: Bear76 on October 27, 2006, 11:20:42 PM: Can I emigrate?
:aok
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Post by: Arlo on October 27, 2006, 11:59:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Tilt
Finns always have been a "model" AH community IMO.............

reckon they have earned their Brewster............

Brewster! Brewster! :D

[edit] :aok (oops ... forgot)
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Post by: B@tfinkV on October 28, 2006, 12:08:59 AM: never before in the history of forum conflict have so many AOK smilies been owed so much by so many.

:aok
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Post by: RBug on October 28, 2006, 01:22:35 AM: :aok
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Post by: QQSaint on October 28, 2006, 03:54:17 AM: :aok
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Post by: Sant on October 28, 2006, 04:46:33 AM: :aok
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Post by: Bushwack on October 28, 2006, 05:03:36 AM: :aok
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Post by: TexMurphy on October 28, 2006, 06:41:54 AM: Finlands sak är vår sak...

Finlands cause is our cause...

:aok from sweden

Tex
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Post by: Wax on October 28, 2006, 07:09:35 AM: :aok
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Post by: Pawz on October 28, 2006, 07:26:57 AM: :aok :huh
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Post by: JaniK on October 28, 2006, 08:45:08 AM: :aok
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Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 28, 2006, 09:28:29 AM: :aok
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Post by: Kaitsu on October 28, 2006, 09:58:14 AM: :aok

Kaitsu, LLv34
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Post by: JanneK on October 28, 2006, 11:50:50 AM: :aok
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Post by: Yeager on October 28, 2006, 12:00:00 PM: :huh :aok
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Post by: Sloehand on October 28, 2006, 02:43:01 PM: See Rules #2, #4, $5
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Post by: scottydawg on October 28, 2006, 03:01:28 PM: :aok
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Post by: hubsonfire on October 28, 2006, 03:03:32 PM: :lol For that story alone, I'm going to add another :aok
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Post by: Dichotomy on October 28, 2006, 03:16:56 PM: :aok
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Post by: B@tfinkV on October 28, 2006, 03:31:33 PM: naughty finns, on your beds, no dinner. on your beds!!!!!

:aok
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Post by: Stang on October 28, 2006, 03:49:19 PM: :lol

:aok :aok
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Post by: 68falcon on October 28, 2006, 03:53:06 PM: :aok
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Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 28, 2006, 03:57:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Sloehand
See Rules #2, #4, #5

Sloehand could it be that you were breaking the DA netiquette by intervening the combat between squad members? Because that's the only scenario I can fathom where you'd get that treatment from the whole squad. And for sure you were asked to stop it before being vulched to ground.

OT/off.. :aok
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Post by: Zuum on October 28, 2006, 04:17:00 PM: See Rule #2
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Post by: Zuum on October 28, 2006, 04:20:08 PM: .
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Post by: daddog on October 28, 2006, 04:55:06 PM: :aok
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Post by: 2bighorn on October 28, 2006, 05:10:04 PM: See Rule #5
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Post by: frank3 on October 28, 2006, 05:28:01 PM: :aok
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Post by: raaka on October 29, 2006, 05:48:08 AM: :aok
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Post by: scottydawg on October 29, 2006, 08:13:31 AM: See Rule #2
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Post by: mora on October 29, 2006, 01:08:36 PM: :aok
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Post by: Heater on October 29, 2006, 01:38:01 PM: Well Said:aok
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Post by: Mr No Name on October 29, 2006, 01:55:39 PM: See Rule #2
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Post by: DamnedRen on October 29, 2006, 01:56:22 PM: See Rule #2
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Post by: sullie363 on October 29, 2006, 02:07:37 PM: :aok
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Post by: wetrat on October 29, 2006, 02:10:21 PM: :noid
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Post by: Major Biggles on October 29, 2006, 02:15:04 PM: Meow...

Just thought I'd be original :cool:
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Post by: FrodeMk3 on October 29, 2006, 03:06:51 PM: LeR3-and, the rest of the Finnish community:

I don't wish to spoil a noble deed, but there is one thing that is overlooked, and that was best stated by the English philosopher Edmund Burke: "All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing."

I've always had the utmost respect for all of the Finnish airmen in the game; It seems that the best sticks come from europe. But, as such, their voice is also most respected, and to silence it will deprive HTC of one of the tools that they use to improve the game that we all enjoy.

I applaud your statements for the show of unity; But I beg you all to consider the dangers of silence, as it may be.

Respectfully yours,

-FrodeMkIII

(P.S. This is not intended to be a pun against HTC's little saying at the bottom of the opening screen, that goes "The Evil Within". Pure accident.)
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Post by: NoBaddy on October 29, 2006, 03:33:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FrodeMk3
But, as such, their voice is also most respected, and to silence it will deprive HTC of one of the tools that they use to improve the game that we all enjoy.

Sorry, I didn't say any of the Finns say their "voice" was being silenced. What was said was that their position and concerns had been voiced and they would no longer "harp" on the subject. Big difference.
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Post by: FrodeMk3 on October 29, 2006, 04:36:18 PM: Quote
Sorry, I didn't say any of the Finns say their "voice" was being silenced. What was said was that their position and concerns had been voiced and they would no longer "harp" on the subject. Big difference.

CC, NB. The thing I was trying to state was, If we ignore a problem, it won't go away. You have to fix your car if you want to drive it. The gist of my argument is, is that we have to keep working, No matter what, If we want things to succeed.
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Post by: TopDollar on October 29, 2006, 06:50:23 PM: See Rules #4, #5
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Post by: dhaus on October 29, 2006, 07:48:36 PM: Umm, aren't finnish women supposed to be goddesses? What are you guys doing on a GAME!? Shouldn't you be paying attention to more important things? Of course, I could be wrong about the women. In any event,
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Post by: scottydawg on October 29, 2006, 09:00:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by dhaus
Umm, aren't finnish women supposed to be goddesses? What are you guys doing on a GAME!? Shouldn't you be paying attention to more important things? Of course, I could be wrong about the women. In any event,

No, they all have huge feet, unibrows and braided armpit hair.

Guess it depends on your definition of 'goddess'.

:D :D :D
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Post by: Masherbrum on October 29, 2006, 10:11:45 PM: :aok
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Post by: Messiah on October 29, 2006, 10:30:18 PM: See Rule #2
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Post by: TimRas on October 29, 2006, 11:40:27 PM: :aok
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Post by: Paawo on October 30, 2006, 02:03:43 AM: :aok
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Post by: Grendel on October 30, 2006, 03:00:45 AM: :aok
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Post by: Wmaker on October 30, 2006, 05:30:05 AM: :aok
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Post by: Sloehand on October 30, 2006, 06:51:21 AM: OK, I've got a couple of things to say, so I'll start with the most important.

My apologies to all the Finns who play AH, including those of Lentolaivue 32. I should not have interjected what was a personal incident into the thread. It had nothing to do with the topic and was most certainly bad manners. And quite frankly, as true, though transplanted Southerner, I am all about good manners and proper courtesy.

Please understand I'm not recanting what I claimed happened or my anger over it, just that it had no place in the conversation, and it thoughtlessly and inapproprately shed a bad light on the whole Finnish community.
I have voiced this apology to Mipoikel in a private email, but I think it only proper I say it to all the Finns and the whole AH community.

That having been said, as for me provoking such an incident, as at least one person has suggested, anyone who was ever in the DA with me before it was neutered, will remember I always championed proper dueling manners. I never, ever jumped into an ongoing fight. It simply would not occur to me to do so. And for the first 4-6 weeks I spent as a newbie, I so determined not to break any rules or anger someone inadvertantly, that I spent much of the time flying high over the base, watching the duels below. Further more, on the night in question, I didn't even have a chance to do anything wrong as I never stayed off the ground for more than 15 seconds from the moment I got into the DA.

But enough of that. It should be obvious that anything I can remember this long with such anger was significant and important, at least to me. It was the height of discourtesy in my mind at the time.

However, my current faux pas has shown just how angry over it I was and that holding that anger is not a good thing. Therefore, I'm going to try and forget it, get over it, and go on.

So again to the community as a whole I apologize for ever bringing it up. To the members of Lentolaivue 32, I will fight you and respect your skill from now on, without rememberance of the past, as best I can.
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Post by: Jompalainen on October 30, 2006, 07:52:52 AM: :aok

B-r-e-w-s-t-e-r
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Post by: Harppa on October 30, 2006, 08:02:44 AM: :aok

Harppa
Title: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: daddog on October 30, 2006, 05:28:10 PM: Quote
However, my current faux pas has shown just how angry over it I was and that holding that anger is not a good thing. Therefore, I'm going to try and forget it, get over it, and go on.

So again to the community as a whole I apologize for ever bringing it up. To the members of Lentolaivue 32, I will fight you and respect your skill from now on, without rememberance of the past, as best I can.
Good show for you slowhand. Well said sir.
Title: Re: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: -Mo- on October 30, 2006, 07:18:10 PM: See Rule #2, #5
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Post by: JussiK on October 30, 2006, 11:27:40 PM: :aok

JussiK00
Title: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: DamnedRen on October 31, 2006, 10:58:17 AM: WTG Sloehand...!

You'll have a lot more fun worrying about the fights at hand than some old historical thing that don't mean anything right now.

Best Rgds
Ren
The Damned

Quote
Originally posted by Sloehand
OK, I've got a couple of things to say, so I'll start with the most important.

My apologies to all the Finns who play AH, including those of Lentolaivue 32. I should not have interjected what was a personal incident into the thread. It had nothing to do with the topic and was most certainly bad manners. And quite frankly, as true, though transplanted Southerner, I am all about good manners and proper courtesy.

Please understand I'm not recanting what I claimed happened or my anger over it, just that it had no place in the conversation, and it thoughtlessly and inapproprately shed a bad light on the whole Finnish community.
I have voiced this apology to Mipoikel in a private email, but I think it only proper I say it to all the Finns and the whole AH community.

That having been said, as for me provoking such an incident, as at least one person has suggested, anyone who was ever in the DA with me before it was neutered, will remember I always championed proper dueling manners. I never, ever jumped into an ongoing fight. It simply would not occur to me to do so. And for the first 4-6 weeks I spent as a newbie, I so determined not to break any rules or anger someone inadvertantly, that I spent much of the time flying high over the base, watching the duels below. Further more, on the night in question, I didn't even have a chance to do anything wrong as I never stayed off the ground for more than 15 seconds from the moment I got into the DA.

But enough of that. It should be obvious that anything I can remember this long with such anger was significant and important, at least to me. It was the height of discourtesy in my mind at the time.

However, my current faux pas has shown just how angry over it I was and that holding that anger is not a good thing. Therefore, I'm going to try and forget it, get over it, and go on.

So again to the community as a whole I apologize for ever bringing it up. To the members of Lentolaivue 32, I will fight you and respect your skill from now on, without rememberance of the past, as best I can.
Title: Re: An open letter to HTC and the Aces High community
Post by: JoppeX on October 31, 2006, 12:50:26 PM: :aok
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Post by: Kentso on October 31, 2006, 02:55:55 PM: :aok

and not to forget...
...bring the Brewster!
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Post by: wolf05 on October 31, 2006, 03:58:19 PM: To the Finnish Lads and to the members of Lentolaivue 32. I remember our days in AH I of the old CT (axis/allies arena). It was fun to do cooperative missions with you all and I remember several times getting my butt pulled out of the fire by these guys. My utmost respect to you all and to your stance on the matters at hand. Thanks Guys<~~>:aok~~
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Post by: Apar on October 31, 2006, 06:31:16 PM: :aok