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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1K3 on October 28, 2006, 01:35:27 PM
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O'Reilly: Do you want USA to win the war in Iraq...
Letterman: hummm ummm it's not easy for me cause im thoughtful......
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0nD_iNPalY
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Dave is the 1337!!!!!!:D
I've actually chucked my remote at the T/V after some things Bill O'Reilly said. Man I hate that guy.
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This guy is desperate for ratings... He recently went to Oprah, Jay Leno, and last night Letterman to promote his book AND his show. I believe he's still #1 on cable news but the viewer ratings might be slipping...
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so letterman is now your front guy in the mental war of midgets?
this is a non event.
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You think Dave won that exchange?
Hardly. Nobody won, because Dave, like any true demo/libbie, would not answer the question, rather, tap danced and avoided making a commitment to anything, just as they cant commit to fighting terrorism.
I would rather have the balls the make a commitment and risk being wrong, then go through life afraid to commit to anything, or afraid to stand up for a belief.
Dave couldn't even figure out if he wants the US troops to succeed in Iraq. Pathetic.
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^^^^Looks like Dago is your midget, Yeag :)
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:lol
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Nice:aok
If you "consertive/republicans" etc wouldn't get so offended and feel the need to back up your poster boy, you could laugh at some of this stuff. Unwind, remember that it's not life and death.
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:lol
good one Stringer
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I am not defending O'Reilly, anyone with even the slightest gift of comprehension and reading ability would have noticed I said "nobody won". Not sure how that is construed as rushing to defend.
Rather, I just hate seeing the brain dead try to claim a false victory, or put lies up on the board.
I think the reality here is someone (1K3 and Dace) just realized they got spanked and when forced to think (hopefully not a painful new experience) and consider, they realized what I said was true.
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Letterman couldn't pawn his rolex.
letterman is just another late night infomercial to promote the latest book,movie,TV show,play,record album, tour. did i miss anything?
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O'Reilly... Now THERE's a candidate for the "Whiney Lil' ***** Award."
It's not that I always disagree with what he has to say, because I don't... But the way he says it... I don't see any difference between him and a "limp-wrist whiney liberal" besides volume and agenda.
His whole debating strategy seems to be "if I talk louder then the other guy, I win."
I think Dave got him with a nice zinger :D
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I don't know how any of you guys see a victory, for either side, in that exchange. What I saw went pretty much like this:
O'Reilly asked a question
Letterrman answered a different question
O'Reilly repeated the question
Letterman said he didn't have an answer
No thoughts exchanged, no agendas advanced, no points won or conceded. Not knowing is okay, but so was asking, so nobody really a point with the posturing. The fact that the crowd enjoyed it only confirmed that the dialog between lib and con is and always will be entertaining.
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O'Reilly thought he had hit on the 'Are you still beating your wife?' kind of question. It didn't work.
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"Do you want USA to win the war in Iraq..." is not a trick question.
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hmmmm O'Reilly made this promise years ago...
Speaking on ABC's Good Morning America on 18 March, 2003, O'Reilly made the following promise:
"If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again."
We're waiting for to apologize bill...
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Originally posted by john9001
"Do you want USA to win the war in Iraq..." is not a trick question.
Sure it is. Different people with different agendas, and the definition of "win" will be ..... well, different for each POV.
Everybody wants to "win". But the definition of what constitutes a win is not the same for everybody.
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Sure it is. Different people with different agendas, and the definition of "win" will be ..... well, different for each POV.
Everybody wants to "win". But the definition of what constitutes a win is not the same for everybody.
i understand your point, Truman thinks he won the Korean war.
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we already won this war!
now only minor problems with transfer post dictator country in to democracy
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Say what you will about O'reilly, but the fact is that he is an extremely intelligent man, who can back up 90% of what he says with facts...Thats a lot more than most liberals
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I find it both very scary and very, very sad that anyone in america cant or wont answer that question with a YES.
I do know that people that would answer that with a NO are planting roadside bombs and blowing up police stations.
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Originally posted by cav58d
Say what you will about O'reilly, but the fact is that he is an extremely intelligent man, who can back up 90% of what he says with facts...Thats a lot more than most liberals
If he was really an extremely intelligent man, he would be able to get a point across, or win an argument, without screaming at the other guy and not letting them say anything.
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The problem with the debate last night is that AFGHANISTAN and IRAQ should NEVER be used in the same sentence/topic/subject.
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Originally posted by Vudak
If he was really an extremely intelligent man, he would be able to get a point across, or win an argument, without screaming at the other guy and not letting them say anything.
I have never seen him scream at anyone, and he didnt scream on Letterman, and he did give Letterman the opportunity to answer without interruption.
O'Reilly was just on Oprah (wife had him on, and I caught some of it), he was doing a Q&A with idiots in the audience, and he didnt scream, interrupt or berate them.
But vudak, feel free to stick with your nonsense since reality and fact doesnt seem to be in your bag o' tricks.
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Originally posted by Dago
O'Reilly was just on Oprah (wife had him on)
hehe.. sure.
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Originally posted by Dago
But vudak, feel free to stick with your nonsense since reality and fact doesnt seem to be in your bag o' tricks.
Dago, your posts in this thread have really got me thinking... I have to ask... Been reading a Goebbles biography lately?
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Originally posted by Vudak
Dago, your posts in this thread have really got me thinking... I have to ask... Been reading a Goebbles biography lately?
Actually Vudak, he's right.
I can't recall ever seeing Bill O'Reilly berate, yell, or go off on anybody. I have watched him debate many times, and he was generally respectful.
I saw the Letterman show. Dave was hamming it up, and you could tell he was taking it all a bit too personal. Letterman had the laughs, O'Reilly won the debate hands down.
Dave was all quips and 1 liners, but he didn't ever "say" anything. He spent most of that convo' dodging O'Reilly's questions if you ask me. Granted, 1 liners, quips, dodges, and personal attacks are par. for the course when debating w/ a liberal.
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Originally posted by WMLute
Actually Vudak, he's right.
I can't recall ever seeing Bill O'Reilly berate, yell, or go off on anybody.
I have. I saw him be a total bastard to a young guy who's father died on 9/11. I mean the type of bastard that would proably get him beat by most people here.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I have. I saw him be a total bastard to a young guy who's father died on 9/11. I mean the type of bastard that would proably get him beat by most people here.
bring yer lunch..
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Originally posted by john9001
"Do you want USA to win the war in Iraq..." is not a trick question.
That is a LOADED question. The reply can be contorted to either side of the argument. THAT in itself is the way the media compliments the politicians in their "Shell Game".
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o'reilly is a master at emotionalizing an issue. i bet he couldn't last more than 2 minutes in a real intellectual discussion.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
That is a LOADED question. The reply can be contorted to either side of the argument. THAT in itself is the way the media compliments the politicians in their "Shell Game".
Yes... I want the USA to be sucessful
No... I want the USA to be unsucessful
Hmmm... If one could contort it in any manner, why not answer it?
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USA already won the war in Iraq. It's the occupation and exit we are having trouble with.
What really gets me is those that claim unless you give 110% support to the Bush Administration's handling of the war, you don't support the troops. That's a load of hogwash. Now that it is starting to damage the GOP's chances of re-election, Dubya's doing a double waffle flip-flop on staying in Iraq. Is he against the troops, too?
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I didn't see the interview so I can't offer any type of informed commentary on it.
I don't watch Letterman anymore because I never found him to be particularly funny. He's something of a one-trick pony....if you've seen him perform once, that's pretty much it.
The question that O'Reilly pitched to him is the type that a real debater or statesman such as Churchill, Roosevelt, Reagan, or even Clinton would have smacked over the fence. Letterman shouldn't have had that much trouble in answering it.
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I just watched the video.
Not only did Letterman not "own" Bill, but he did not answer the question. How tough can it be to answer that question? Surely any American wants America to be successful in Iraq, right?
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Originally posted by Vudak
Dago, your posts in this thread have really got me thinking... I have to ask... Been reading a Goebbles biography lately?
Have you been picking your toes in Poughkeepsie?
Ask another irrelevant question, I can come up with more too.
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Ok O Reilly is an #$@hole I've give ya that
IMO Letterman is also an #@)( hole
Ill give yas that too.
Letterman in that clip came up with the better sound bite. Which was convieniently where the clip ended.
What was the eventual real answer?
OR didnt he come up with more then a chuckle grabbing sound bite?
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The chuckle grabbing sound bite is how he pwnered O'Reilly and thus, the debate is over.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Yes... I want the USA to be successful
No... I want the USA to be unsuccessful
Hmmm... If one could contort it in any manner, why not answer it?
You aren't looking at the reaction of other's in the way I am then.
Letterman is a Liberal, always has, always will. O'Reilly is a media driven figurehead.
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letterman needs his bellybutton kicked and o'reilly needs to be second in line, only you would have to break o'rielly's knee first then kick his ass. there aren't too many problems in the media that couldn't be solved with a good ol' fashioned asswhooping.
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Originally posted by nirvana
The chuckle grabbing sound bite is how he pwnered O'Reilly and thus, the debate is over.
The trolling in this thread is so last week.
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Originally posted by nirvana
The chuckle grabbing sound bite is how he pwnered O'Reilly and thus, the debate is over.
I dont see it that way.
I see it more as a way to avoid answering the question.
If he were capable of thought. he would have been able to answer the question with more then a sound bite
Kinda like what happens here when people run out of things they can stand on in an arguement.
They start insulting the person they are debating with as though that will somehow validate their arguement
that sound bite is what makes him look like just as much an bellybutton as Orilley
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Originally posted by storch
letterman needs his bellybutton kicked and o'reilly needs to be second in line, only you would have to break o'rielly's knee first then kick his ass. there aren't too many problems in the media that couldn't be solved with a good ol' fashioned asswhooping.
I agree. You would have to break OReillys knee first cause he would acctually fight back.
Letterman would just curl up in a little ball no the floor and cry
from that perspective I can respect Oreilly more.
But that doesnt make him any less of a a--hole LOL
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I didn't see Bill whup up on Dave but I did see him beat the stuffin' outta Bill Maher the other night.
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bring back celebrity death match
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That wasn't a troll I was trying to end this thread with what it was about. Letterman called O'Reilly uncaring and so everyone had their 2 seconds of chuckling and they went on their way. There's really no need for this intense of a discussion over this little event.
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Originally posted by lukster
I didn't see Bill whup up on Dave but I did see him beat the stuffin' outta Bill Maher the other night.
Was flipping through the channels and caught eht tail end of that.
From what I saw I thought he took it pretty easy on Maher
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I dont think the question should be "Do you want America to win in Iraq."
Heck, even the most hardcore anti-war people want us to be successful. They just define "win" in a way that turns some people's stomachs. Mine included.
The question should be "If the President and military leaders unite behind a plan for Iraq, will you support them until we reach the goals we have set to win."
In this case, "win" is defined by only one POV, and cant be twisted to mean whatever the person answering wants it to mean. Answer yes, or no.
As for what we SHOULD be doing over there, I think we've debated that into the ground already. Several times. That horse is glue already.
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Bill O'Reily got pwned by David Letterman!
Was that during the commercial? All I saw was Dave getting flustered and resorting to insults because he couldnt answer a simple question.
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Originally posted by storch
bring back celebrity death match
Absolutely :aok
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Was flipping through the channels and caught eht tail end of that.
From what I saw I thought he took it pretty easy on Maher
He manipulated Maher into saying things I think Maher really didn't want to say. I agree though, he did it without much apparent effort.
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Originally posted by 1K3
hmmmm O'Reilly made this promise years ago...
Speaking on ABC's Good Morning America on 18 March, 2003, O'Reilly made the following promise:
We're waiting for to apologize bill...
He did apologize, they even replayed it on Oprah.