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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: OneMan on May 12, 2000, 07:48:00 PM
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I was told a few months ago the Lancaster was the next plane that "they" would be working on? I hope this is still true... And please get the bomb load correct, My sources say it could carry 22,000 pounds of bombs. And did it not carry that 18,000 pound sigle bomb for dropping on U-Boat bunkers? Sure hope they give us that one just to have "fun" you could really mess up an HQ with it !
Speaking about bomb loads in general, I dont think the B17 max bomb load was 6 1000 pounders. And I know max bomb load takes into consideration the amound of fuel required for the mission so why does not HTC let you "up" the bomb load when you "down" the fuel load????
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Pyro stated a few days ago that they were just about done with the A6M5, Yak9U and Fw190A5 and the next planes they would work on was the Lancaster and Ju-88. My bet is they will be added not in this update (1.03) but next again (1.04).
About bomb-load I also list the maximum for the lancaster to be 22,000 lbs, but this needed special modification to bomb bay. Max internal load was 18,000 lbs, but normal load was 14,000 lbs tho, and as it is the B-17's "normal" load we use for max load available here (6,000 lbs), I would guess we will see a maximum available bomb load for the lancaster being 14,000 lbs in Aces High. That still will be a devastating load IMHO. A lancaster and a B17 with small bombs (for ack and fuel etc) can level a small or medium field then (hangars included).
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"Head-ons are for pilots that don't know what their next move should be"
Ltn. Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)
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I was told no Tallboy or Grandslam would b modeled. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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The Tallboy was only 12,000lb and could be carried internally. I hope it is incleded, even if the Grand Slam isn't. What about the 4000lb blockbuster, and the 8000ld and 12,000lb multi blockbusters? Are they likley to be included?
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Ya heard they're just gonna do Cookies.
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I wonder how big the crater left by a 12,000lb cookie is?
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Hi all
I just been reading the Lancaster manual and I was really surprised at just how much it could carry.... I could do with some help with the codes though - such as SAP, AS, HC (cookie?) etc. GP is obviously General Purpose and AP Armour Piercing...
Anyway, here are the standard Lancaster loadouts:-
Loadout 1:-
14 bombs of either:–
500lb GP; 250lb SAP; 250lb B Mk III; 1000lb USA Type; 500lb SAP; 250lb AS; 600lb AS; 1000lb MC; 250lb GP; 250lb LC; 250lb Small-Bomb containers; 1000lb GP Short Tail type.
Loadout 2:-
8 x 500lb & 6 x 250lb AS (Mk IV only)
Loadout 3:-
6 x 500lb & 3 x 250lb AS and 5 x 250lb SAP
Loadout 4:-
6 x 1000lb & 3 x 250lb GP
Loadout 5:-
1 x 4000lb HC & 6 x 1000lb GP (Short tail type or USA type 1000lb) & 2 x 250lb GP
Loadout 6:-
6 x 1500lb A Mines or 6 x 2000lb HC Bombs
Loadout 7:-
6 x 1900lb & 3 x 250lb GP
Loadout 8:-
6 x 2000lb AP & 3 x 250lb SAP
So, yep, it could carry 14 of the US 1000lb bomb type! Whoa!
Regards
'Nexx'
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Correct, the biggest bomb we'll do right now is the 4000 pound cookie.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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<drools> ahhhh I want the grandslam ahhhhhh
*evil visions of totaly flatened bases appear in beefs head*
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Originally posted by Beefcake:
<drools> ahhhh I want the grandslam ahhhhhh
*evil visions of totaly flatened bases appear in beefs head*
Well, nothing against a well executed destruction job (*), but the Lanc has the small problem that it has no belly turret. What's the fighter with the biggest gun pack and the best zoom climb ability?
Az
II.(K)/JG2
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(*) For those knights that are interested in grabbing land from the enemy: We have some players that are interested in building up a cross-squad force. Just tune #117 if you're interested in coordinated attacks.
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A "cookie" or "blockbuster" was a 4,000 pound medium capacity bomb. The RAF "heavies" dropped large numbers of these high-explosive bombs along with incendaries.
The RAF developed a 8,000 pound high-capacity bomb which was first used on Feb 10, 1942.
British 30-lb incendiary bomb
British 120-lb GP bomb
Standard inter-war bomb, used at the start of World War 2
British 250-lb Middle Capacity GP bomb
Standard inter-war bomb
British 500-lb GP bomb
Standard inter-war bomb
British 500-lb Medium-Case (MC) Mk III bomb
The MC bomb proved more effective than the ealier GP bombs, due to a higher filling:weight ratio. It was widely used by tactical aircraft, the 500-lb type also finding applications on heavy bomeber aircraft.
British 4,000-lb 'Cookie'
The Cookie is one of the demolition weapons employed by the RAF.
British 8,000-lb 'Cookie'
Two 4,000-lb 'Cookies' bolted together
British 12000-lb High Capacity (HC) bomb
Three 4,000-lb 'Cookies' bolted together, not to be confused with the Tallboy deep penetration bomb.
British 12000-lb 'Tallboy' Deep Penetration Bomb
Could only be carried by the Avro Lancaster.
British 22000-lb 'Grand Slam' bomb
Could only be carried by the Avro Lancaster.
(http://members.home.net/torqs/films/gslam.jpg) Grandslam great place to fly a flag (http://members.home.net/torqs/films/GERbb08_Tirpitz_end3.jpg) Tallboy hole "you sunk my battleship"
(http://members.home.net/torqs/films/earthquake.jpg)
(http://members.home.net/torqs/films/lanc800.jpg)
Dunno what this is maybe 3 cookies tied together.
Heh Kieren took me awhile lol thx
[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 05-13-2000).]
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hehe, was gonna fix it for you. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by Kieren (edited 05-13-2000).]
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Can we have the cookie-carrying Mosquito B.XVI(1200 built) too? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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HEH one can only hope. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 05-13-2000).]
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Since we get the Ju88 at same time as Lancaster, it would be nice if it was the Ju88G7 which had two MG 151/20 cannons firing upward. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
That baby is just ment to bring down Lancasters .
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"Head-ons are for pilots that don't know what their next move should be"
Ltn. Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)
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Only if it's dark...
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Some Lancs did have belly turrets. I'll post the info whae I get home to my books.
Sisu
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OK, here it is.
The first production Lancaster was L7527, flown on 31 October 1941 with 955-kW (1,280-hp) Merlin XX engines in place of the 854-kW (1,145-hp) Merlin Xs used previously, but somewhat slower because the gross weight had grown from 22680 to 27216 kg (50,000 to 60,000 lb). The mid-upper turret had a different appearance because of a surrounding aerodynamic fairing incorporating a 'taboo track' along which rode rollers which kept the twin guns at high angles when fore and aft to avoid firing at parts of the aircraft. Magazines in the mid-fuselage housed 2,000 rounds for this turret and 10,000 for the new Frazer-Nash FN.30 rear turret, less rounded than the FN.20 of the Manchester (almost the same as that of the Whitley V). Early Lancasters also retained the Manchester's FN.21A two-gun ventral turret, but this was rarely used and soon discarded. (Who was to know that in 1943-5, in the Lancaster's hour of need when dozens were being shot down each night by Junkers Ju-88s and Messerschmitt Bf-110Gs, that this would be the only turret that could have done any good?)
Not much use, since only early Lancs had them (and they were .303s), but some Lancs did have ventral guns.
Sisu