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Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Waffle on October 31, 2006, 04:09:44 PM
I'm trying to find some information on a violin maker by the name of "loleph Filcher". He worked out of Ratisbona in the 1800's. I'm in possesion of one that was made in 1818, and just trying to track down some info. Unfortuneatly, I can't find any info on it here. Anyone overseas able to help out? In the Regensburg area?

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Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Roscoroo on October 31, 2006, 04:46:23 PM
try here http://www.usd.edu/smm/Indices/nmmMakers.html (http://www.usd.edu/smm/Indices/nmmMakers.html)

I didnt see it there but you could email them and ask if no one comes up with anyother info ect ..
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: babek- on October 31, 2006, 05:02:56 PM
These are old german letters.

The writing is

JOSEPH FISCHER FECIT A RATISBONA. 1818.

If my latin is correct this means that

Joseph Fischer made this at Ratisbona in 1818

The bad news is that the sur-name "Fischer" is very common in Germany and german-spoken countries.

But I hope the info helps a little bit.
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Waffle on October 31, 2006, 05:07:26 PM
that was one question I had about the letters
Thank you - tha'll send me on my way...

Now to see how much this pawn shop violin
 is worth :)


FISCHER, JOSEPH, Regensburg, b. 1769, d. 1834.
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: AWMac on October 31, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
Maybe check with the old German Opera such as in Bayreuth Germany. That is where they hold the Annual Wagner Festival.

That should give you some kind of direction seeing as how fine the violin is.

Just a thought.

Mac.





Yes you tards I do have some "Culture" genes in me.

Now bugger off.....
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Waffle on October 31, 2006, 06:08:21 PM
I sent some pics to Skinner Inc. in Boston the other day. I'll see if I hear back anything from them.
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: BlueJ1 on October 31, 2006, 09:23:13 PM
Ever see the movie "The red violin" ? I watched it on the way back from Hawaii to Chicago. I feel asleep multiple times watching it. Everytime I woke up it was in the same exact spot. Subtitles and a dark airplane with lots of white noise is not a good combo.
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Nilsen on November 01, 2006, 03:36:02 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac

Yes you tards I do have some "Culture" genes in me.

Now bugger off.....



You are not alone. I have had the pleasure of listening to alot of classical music and The San Francisco Symphony Orchestra are one of my favorite over on your side of the pond.

We have tons of Violins and Chellos in my house after my grandfather who used to teach Chello among other things. You wont belive how strong your fingers get when doing that stuff alot. He used to lift himself up by his fingertips on the doorframe. His grip was insane.. or so my father said. The old bugger died when i was 5 so i dunno.
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Rolex on November 01, 2006, 06:38:52 AM
I've always enjoyed classical music, but was never a serious listener who bought CDs or attends concerts. I suppose it would be a wonderful fantasy for a classical music lover to be able to conduct a world-class orchestra.

Ironically, I am someone who has done just that - conducted a world-class orchestra. And it scared me to death. So, just how did that come about?

First, let me say right now that I am not Nuke or Bye-Bye and I'm not one to toot my own horn. I have played music for almost 40 years and even been paid to do it, but I always gave the money to others guys in the bands I've played with, since I don't consider myself a professional and I earn enough in my business. Music has always been just a release for me and they had to pay the rent with it.

So how did I get to conduct an orchestra? Well, I was asked to play a part in a movie 4 years ago written and directed by a fellow named Hisaishi Joe. He's a world-class composer who has written and performed a huge catalog of movie scores (http://www.joehisaishi.com/)

My character was a genius conductor (har har) and one of the scenes required me to conduct the New Japan Philharmonic (originally formed by Ozawa Seiji) - Here's a short sample (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFKrwL4UDQo) of them.

Anyway, I was present at the recording sessions for the movie score and spent quite some time with the real conductor in preparation for filming. So, not only did I have the pressure of all those real musician faces looking at me, thinking how foolish this amateur was going to be, but I had to do all my lines... in French.

I used to be fairly fluent in French, a few decades ago, but this was going to be tough since much of the dialog was to be improvised. The cast is speaking Japanese, I'm speaking French and have to really conduct the real symphony members.

Now, I'm used to being in front of people, even many people, but this was different. I was out of my element and felt like a total fraud conducting them. Let me tell you, I was sweating bullets when I stepped onto that platform, but we got it done.

The thing I will remember forever is after our last take and the director yelled cut, the orchestra started stomping their feet in the traditional way of saying, "Bravo!" as the rest of the cast and audience hooted and applauded. I suppose they were surprised that the rank amateur wasn't as bad as they thought he would be. It was very heartwarming and something I will cherish, even though I think they were just glad it was over. ;)
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Nilsen on November 01, 2006, 06:55:03 AM
That is really an acheivment Rolex. Wtg!

Got a clip from that movie to show us? Would be fun to watch.
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Rolex on November 01, 2006, 07:08:57 AM
Thanks, Nilsen!

And there is no way I would ever post it (here), even if I had a clip. To tell you the truth, I never went to theater to see it or watched the DVD. I'd just get self-conscious and self-critical if I saw it.

If I had been smart, I would have taken some girl out on a date to the movies when it was in the theaters.

Rolex: "How about this movie"

Cute babe: "Ohhh! That looks good. Let's go!"

Rolex: :cool:
Title: German Peeps: trying to track down a violin maker...
Post by: Airscrew on November 01, 2006, 01:57:35 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Ever see the movie "The red violin" ? I watched it on the way back from Hawaii to Chicago. I feel asleep multiple times watching it. Everytime I woke up it was in the same exact spot. Subtitles and a dark airplane with lots of white noise is not a good combo.

I thought "The Red Violin" was a good movie.  first time I saw it was part way through, my wife had it on.  "What ya watch?"  "a movie about  a violin"  I watched for a few minutes and decided it was dumb and went and played AH.  a week or so later I'm sitting in front of the TV looking for something to watch and I see "The Red Violin" with Samuel Jackson,  oh this should be good it has Samuel Jackson in it.   While I was watching, wife walks in "What ya watchin?"  "The Red Violin" "Thats the same movie I was watchin last week and you said it was dumb"  "Yea, but you didnt tell me Samuel Jackson was in it" :lol