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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: cav58d on October 31, 2006, 09:36:40 PM
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I dont have time to go into a lot of detail, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I logged my first multi turbo SIC hours today! I'm in the process of training to fly right seat (part time) in a King Air 200, privately owned! I can't begin to tell you how excited I am! Prior to this, a Baron was the largest aircraft that I have piloted...The King Air is like a dream! I find it remarkable, how sensitive that aircraft is to trim...it just feels it out so well...Controls were a bit heavy which took getting used too, but I'm learning...If there is anything I learned today, it is that an airplane is an airplane...Sure, they are all different, but the basics of flying all remain the same, whether large or small...Minor and gentle control inputs is all it takes...I also found myself forgetting that there was an additional 39 some odd feet of airplane behind me when we were cruising...
I prolly sound like a little kid right now, so i'll stop...I've got to go study...Just thought some of you may be interested...
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First time I flew a King Air (right seat too), the pilot told me to rotate at 130 and climb at 140 kts. We were empty in back and light on fuel. I did the opposite, got it off at 140 and climbed closer to 130. We went up really fast. :)
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CONGRATS!
Now the fun police come:
Make sure you're actually legal to log that time. The type certificate of the BE20 doesn't require two pilots so make sure one of the next three things happens:
-The ops specs require a second pilot (if you're 91...probably not but hopefully they have some kind of ops specs for their own good)
-Insurance requires a second pilot (in writing)
-The PIC is a rated/current CFI/MEI and will sign you off for dual.
Beyond that you're gaining experience but not logbook time. The former is much more important than the latter of course. I'd just say use caution because I watched a guy have his heart broken by a DE on the day of his ATP ride. He was employed by our charter outfit and went to take his ATP on his own in my Apache. I signed em off not knowing the finer details of the above mentioned and he was turned away by the examiner. He was close...within a hundred hours without the king air time...but didn't have 1500.
Lesson learned for both of us.
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Sweet Cav, congratulations :)
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WTG CAV!!!
the airways will never be the same:cool:
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Kingair 200 time is good time..seems like a billion of those things
flying around :)
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those are sweet WTG Cav !
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WTG Cav. I have a few hours in a Saratoga and a few in a 172. That Saratoga is just sweeeeet to fly. Make getting in that 172 feel like....going from a Caddy to a Focus.
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Thanks everyone! Everything is very exciting, and Golfer I am looking into what you said...Insurance is going to be a big factor...
It's pretty funny how you can go from one day just looking at an airplane and not caring much for it, 2 flying it the next day and just falling head over heals in love! =)
***Golfer you may find this interesting...The owner just had winglet's installed (8th King air 200 in the country to have it done)...The Winglets move the center of lift outward, and decrease the lifetime of the wing from 15,000, 9,000 hours...There is a composite tab that can be installed to ride the flap which is supposed to move the center of lift back to the middle of the wing that we are looking at....Ever heard of this with other winglet aircraft?
http://www.nwlink.com/~blrweb/civilian/fixed_wing/beechcraft/kingair/kingair_winglets.pdf
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the sales brochure doesn't say anything other than what you'd want a buyer to see in order to purchase.
sounds like...somethin. King Air 200's do just fine, look just fine and perform just fine without them. I'm sure the benefits for someone like him outweigh the down-the-line problems with resale value with the shorter lifetime.
If the cost to install them plus the 3% fuel savings over 9000 hours exceeds the value of the remaining 6000 hours of the potential lifetime (I honestly didn't know king airs were life limited airframes...I'd double check that because there are some very ratty high time airplanes out there in the 90-100 series) of the aircraft then its a winner.
Again..
CONGRATS!!!!
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The brochure gives no tech detail's, I just wanted to provide it so some not familiar with winglets would have an idea of what I was talking about...
the original 15,000 hour lifespan is only regarding the wings of the King Air200, and i'm not sure if it is a massive overhaul, or total replacement of wings....I have to keep reading up....
It's just wild how much it costs the operator to own an aircraft like this...Yesterday we flew up to Turboprop East at AQW to drop off a check for the winglet/annual and it was $110,000.00! I really need to win powerball, or there is zero chance I will do anything more than fly these for someone else lmao....
life is good though
will check in later
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Think the 200 runs about $4.5 mil new.
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aircraft is 1990, and recently updated to full glass as of two or three years ago
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When I was learning to fly a glider, there was a parachute boogey at the airport. Their jump plane was a ratted out King Air something or other.
When I asked why a nice luxury plane was being used as a jump plane, I was told that for that particular airplane, its cabin preasurization system quite working and it was cheaper to make money using the plane as a jump plane than fixing the preasurization system.
I mentioned that it was a shame, but I was then told that King Airs are only good for so long. I took the info at face value, but I do often wonder what the "Other" things were when I see them for sale in trader mags.