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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Whisky58 on November 02, 2006, 10:04:38 AM
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Constant gripes about La7, Spit, Nikki players on bbs & ch200 because perceived as being easy killers but what about the F4u4 & Tempest users? These are the ultimate piston planes & imho easy to rack up kills in, yet nobody complains about them being gamey or "dweeby".
Is it because you have to earn your perks or is it a macho thing?
It could be argued that if you're good enough to earn perks to fly them, you should be flying more challenging types. Bit of a Catch 22 eh?
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hence why the guys that complain about them all the time are the dweebs and self proclaimed 'hot shots'
the guys that whine like that are just skilless idiots with nothing to do when they get their arse handed to them but cry and come up with retarded excuses.
:rofl
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Well, you take a risk to fly those... You are more likely to be a serious target in a big fight. Nobody is gonna let the Tempest guy fly home if they can help it.
IMO The Lgays should have been limited to the 2 canon models and they would be more representative of what they were in WW2... The 3 canon LA7 in combat was about as rare as the He 162
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I only whine when i loose a perky plane!:D
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Hypocrisy
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
Well, you take a risk to fly those... You are more likely to be a serious target in a big fight. Nobody is gonna let the Tempest guy fly home if they can help it.
IMO The Lgays should have been limited to the 2 canon models and they would be more representative of what they were in WW2... The 3 canon LA7 in combat was about as rare as the He 162
The rumor is that in AH the 2 cannon La7 is more manuvorable and slightly faster than if you use the 3 cannon option. I have flown it both ways and didnt really notice a difference except that for me snap shots are harder without the 3rd cannon.
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Originally posted by Wotan
Hypocrisy
Correct!
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Hypocracy?
Yep. You are outnumbered 5 to 1 in a p40 by guys flying the non uber planes, ohhh lets say a 38 for example. You kill 3 of them, you are hurt, down to your last rounds when one of them finally HOs you. You try to up but you get vulched by the remaining aces in the non uber planes. Then, you sneak a lala out of a hangar, kill one of them and hunt down the one trying to run now that he has a 1 vs 1. He knows the lala will catch him but he is hoping his friends that died first are on the way. You catch up to him as his first friends make icon contact. Easy kill, even though he is an ace, the lala rules the skies. Finally, after killing one or two more you get hoed by a non uber 38.
Then, you get called a lala no skill dweeb for HOing him (even though you never fired a round).
Thats Hypocracy. All these aces that cry about the lala can only fight when they have numbers. The reason for the crying is that the lala will not let you rtb when the fight becomes even. Lets face it, no one came in here crying for killing someone in an LA7 :rofl
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Originally posted by Wotan
Hypocrisy
Hypocras !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocras
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Originally posted by straffo
Hypocras !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocras
no cloves please...
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La7's are noy hard to kill if your in a 38... only time there is a problem is if they run or get helpl so your attention is drawn away.
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Originally posted by Shuffler
La7's are noy hard to kill if your in a 38... only time there is a problem is if they run or get helpl so your attention is drawn away.
Wana try?
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I don't get upset about someone GOOD in an LA7. I get upset by people who are obviously dweebs and the ONLY thing they do is HO and pass 30 guys on their way down to the runway to vulch. I don't mind vulching, but when you pass up a bunch of other guys just to get an easy kill on the runway, you are an uber dweeb. The LA7 seems to be the plane of choice for these dweebs because its fast, has good firepower and it doesn't cost anything.
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
Wana try?
lol, i'll take you up on that if you like
don't get too cocky bunny ;)
la7 is a great ride actually, great dogfighter in the right hands, it just gets a bad name because it IS a dweeb ride, it's bloody fast and has cannons. like others have said it lets assorted noobs and dweebs get kills, despite the fact that my dog is a better pilot :lol
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More importaintly, this is a game requiring a thick skin at times. Give an enemy any credence to their comments, and you give some of them a psychological advantage.
CH 200 may be good entertainment at times, but lending any serious basis to those comments doesn't do you any good.
As a former athlete, I understand the need for some to trash-talk, yet a champion will filter it out and do his/her talking via the scoreboard.
Good Hunting!
ROX
PigStompers
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Originally posted by Wotan
Hypocrisy
Sorry - my bad :o
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but what about the F4u4
The F4u-4 doesn't count for it's firing all 50 cals.You mean the Cannon dependent deflection shot dweebs.The ones that fly around in a catoon plane armed with 4-20mm's getting a HO shot or a weak deflection then typing like they are all that.
Lets see them do all that in a non cannon armed cartoon plane, and shootin your friend who is holding still while on another country does not count.
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You all know this is BS. The same can be told about Tiffies, 51s, 38s, NIKIs, etc. Come in high pork something, loop around get a vulch and then die or try to run.
The only reason the lala gets the bad rep is that it wont let you rtb with your picks and vulches.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
The F4u-4 doesn't count for it's firing all 50 cals.You mean the Cannon dependent deflection shot dweebs.The ones that fly around in a catoon plane armed with 4-20mm's getting a HO shot or a weak deflection then typing like they are all that.
Lets see them do all that in a non cannon armed cartoon plane, and shootin your friend who is holding still while on another country does not count.
I'll shoot you down all day in a D11, Hellcat, 51B, in a deflection solution.
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
You all know this is BS. The same can be told about Tiffies, 51s, 38s, NIKIs, etc. Come in high pork something, loop around get a vulch and then die or try to run.
The only reason the lala gets the bad rep is that it wont let you rtb with your picks and vulches.
exactly, and this is why i laugh when a P51 'ace' or 190 'master' complains about me flying a low n' slow spit5.
somehow they think that not flying an LA7, yet still using the weak and tierd tactics of the true lala7 dweebs, try to tell me that I am the dweeb for flying an early war spitty that can hardly outrun a TBM.
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
You all know this is BS. The same can be told about Tiffies, 51s, 38s, NIKIs, etc. Come in high pork something, loop around get a vulch and then die or try to run.
The only reason the lala gets the bad rep is that it wont let you rtb with your picks and vulches.
they're all dweebs
the lala doesnt get a bad rep for 'hunting people down' :rofl it gets a bad rep because 95% of them are awful pilots, all they do is turn to face you and shoot, usually a HO.
no matter what you think, the LA is a 'dweeb ride', but it's the pilot that counts. IMHO though, someone like you that 'will not' let someone get home after perhaps some good fights is a little lame.
sure, i dont expect to be escorted home by an enemy lol, but i dont expect them to be so enraged at the arse kicking i just gave them, for them to want to hunt me down LOL
i would be flattered though, as it's almost like recieving 'you're a hacker, i'm email hitech' PM's, although not quite as prestigeous ;)
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i dont think bugs was talking about being hunted down after a good fight.
he was talking about punishing vulchers and lame arse gameplay no skill tards as they run home to land thier 'kills'
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
they're all dweebs
the lala doesnt get a bad rep for 'hunting people down' :rofl it gets a bad rep because 95% of them are awful pilots, all they do is turn to face you and shoot, usually a HO.
no matter what you think, the LA is a 'dweeb ride', but it's the pilot that counts. IMHO though, someone like you that 'will not' let someone get home after perhaps some good fights is a little lame.
sure, i dont expect to be escorted home by an enemy lol, but i dont expect them to be so enraged at the arse kicking i just gave them, for them to want to hunt me down LOL
i would be flattered though, as it's almost like recieving 'you're a hacker, i'm email hitech' PM's, although not quite as prestigeous ;)
And what exactly do you think 95% of the guys in a NIKI, Tiffi, HOricane, and spits do? As for the rest of your statements, read again. I said picks and vulches, not a good fight. Unless thats what a good fight is to you.
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Originally posted by Whisky58
Constant gripes about La7, Spit, Nikki players on bbs & ch200 because perceived as being easy killers but what about the F4u4 & Tempest users? These are the ultimate piston planes & imho easy to rack up kills in, yet nobody complains about them being gamey or "dweeby".
Is it because you have to earn your perks or is it a macho thing?
It could be argued that if you're good enough to earn perks to fly them, you should be flying more challenging types. Bit of a Catch 22 eh?
The gripes are about the numbers of these clowns. Its not unbeliveble that you can roll in on a group of planes and find the 30% are Las, 30% are Spit 16s, 20% are niks, and the other 20% are assorted types. LA's and spit 16s and Niks to a certain extent are very good planes that hit hard, turn well and are very fast, and with even a mediocer pilot are tuff to kill, in masses your toast.
Temps, f4u4, and even typhs are not used as commonly so are not the "same" type of proplem. While all 3 are very good planes, its very rare that you would even see them all in the same group at once.
The complaints about the lalas, spit16s, and niks are because "anybody" can fly and kill in one, and EVERYBODY does :D
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Fair comment fugitive.
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
And what exactly do you think 95% of the guys in a NIKI, Tiffi, HOricane, and spits do? As for the rest of your statements, read again. I said picks and vulches, not a good fight. Unless thats what a good fight is to you.
ahh lol, got it ;)
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
You all know this is BS. The same can be told about Tiffies, 51s, 38s, NIKIs, etc. Come in high pork something, loop around get a vulch and then die or try to run.
The only reason the lala gets the bad rep is that it wont let you rtb with your picks and vulches.
Nothing more satisfying than chasing down vulchers after lifting a La-La.
Was in the MW a week or so ago and a P-47-D11 was vulchin' the piss out of a field and talking all sorts of smack to the one poor guy that kept trying to up.
I sat in the tower and picked the appropriate time to launch an La-5 ... 25%. Got wheels up and made him miss on a pass which in turn bled quite a bit of E so he decides it's time to get out of Dodge. Yeah right.
He dives for the deck trying to pick up speed, but the D11 just can't quite do it. I keep gaining ... 1.5 ... 1.0 ... 800 ... now he turns hard right and up (very evasive !!!) ... LOLOLOL ... I nose up to the right ... draw a bead ... BOOM !!!!
Ya should have seen the tirade on 200 ... it not only made my day ... it made my week. I think he had something like 8 kills and was torqued that his name would not appear in lights.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Nothing more satisfying than chasing down vulchers after lifting a La-La.
Was in the MW a week or so ago and a P-47-D11 was vulchin' the piss out of a field and talking all sorts of smack to the one poor guy that kept trying to up.
I sat in the tower and picked the appropriate time to launch an La-5 ... 25%. Got wheels up and made him miss on a pass which in turn bled quite a bit of E so he decides it's time to get out of Dodge. Yeah right.
He dives for the deck trying to pick up speed, but the D11 just can't quite do it. I keep gaining ... 1.5 ... 1.0 ... 800 ... now he turns hard right and up (very evasive !!!) ... LOLOLOL ... I nose up to the right ... draw a bead ... BOOM !!!!
Ya should have seen the tirade on 200 ... it not only made my day ... it made my week. I think he had something like 8 kills and was torqued that his name would not appear in lights.
LALA DWEEB. GET SOME SKILZZZ AND TRY A REAL FIGHTER :furious
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Originally posted by Casinoman
More importaintly, this is a game requiring a thick skin at times. Give an enemy any credence to their comments, and you give some of them a psychological advantage.
CH 200 may be good entertainment at times, but lending any serious basis to those comments doesn't do you any good.
As a former athlete, I understand the need for some to trash-talk, yet a champion will filter it out and do his/her talking via the scoreboard.
Good Hunting!
ROX
PigStompers
I couldn't agree more!
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
LALA DWEEB. GET SOME SKILZZZ AND TRY A REAL FIGHTER :furious
Hey ... that's what he said ... :rofl
My La-La is used for horde goon hunting and vulchers and an occasional sortie or two just to keep things all oiled up.
I did fly the La-7 just about exclusively for Tours 33 thru 35 and that is why I laugh at La-7s when I see them ... except for when Shane is flying one ... then I know I am in for a good fight.
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
Wana try?
I'm game.
ack-ack
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Yeah it's too bad no production La7s came near the prototype performance we see in AH. That and the pilots dying from carbon monoxide poisoning from faulty, exhaust pipes. Gotta love it :aok
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I was just wondering if someone could tell me what to fly so I wont be considered a dweeb?:t
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Originally posted by ReyPirin
Yeah it's too bad no production La7s came near the prototype performance we see in AH. That and the pilots dying from carbon monoxide poisoning from faulty, exhaust pipes. Gotta love it :aok
If you like, I can come to your house, seal all the windows and then run a hose from your car exhaust to your room so you can have the utmost realism when you fly.
ack-ack
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That explains why whenever I see you online it looks like someone who is oxygen deprived is typing .
But that seems especially retarded you should cut that out . :D :aok
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Originally posted by wolf8u
I was just wondering if someone could tell me what to fly so I wont be considered a dweeb?:t
Too Late Wolf, the words already out on you !!!:t
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I'll shoot you down all day in a D11, Hellcat, 51B, in a deflection solution.
You act as though your the only person who can fly those planes?
And a weak DEFLECTION shot is about all your gonna get if your that Lucky.
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Originally posted by wolf8u
I was just wondering if someone could tell me what to fly so I wont be considered a dweeb?:t
Ju87 pretty safe bet - but if you do manage to knock down MrFlashass in his Mustang he'll still call you a dweeb.
F4u1, FW190a5 & Yak9u are seriously good planes & imho very underestimated & under used. All are unlikely to earn you dweeb label if that bothers anyone.
:)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I'm game.
ack-ack
Anytime. All I ask is that we set an alt cap. Anything below 100K I am in