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Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 04, 2006, 02:00:32 AM
Well this is my last B-17 skin for awhile. Any tips before i send it in?

Bare metal skin 834th BS  486th BG.

Happy Skinning

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(http://skychimp.sitesled.com/Skins/ahss85.jpg)
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Bruv119 on November 04, 2006, 04:10:33 AM
Both of your skins look superb to me skychimp.  

I thank you for spending your spare time making the game look and feel better for us all.

much appreciated   :aok


Bruv
~S~
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Reynolds on November 04, 2006, 12:24:51 PM
w00t! More 17s! Im afraid there will be no more room for more 17 skins by the time I learn to make skins, and this rate is just ppoving it! WTG! Looks brilliant!
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 04, 2006, 03:27:28 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
w00t! More 17s! Im afraid there will be no more room for more 17 skins by the time I learn to make skins, and this rate is just ppoving it! WTG! Looks brilliant!


I can always ask htc to let you replace one of mine!:D


Thanks for nice comments all
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: 1895 on November 04, 2006, 03:44:15 PM
She's a beauty! I might start using that as my good luck skin for 17s if it gets approved.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Krusty on November 05, 2006, 12:30:42 AM
Why are there red and black stripes below the wings only?

Why are there deicer boots that cut off at the leading edge (not on the bottom of the wing?!)

The metal is okay but leaves a little to be desired. If you submited the metal as-is you'd not hear any complaints, but I think it can be a bit better. This might be also related to the materials file used.

Need to see more pictures of the top-down view, bottom-up view, and the tail surfaces. Can't comment on them because we can't see them.

EDIT: Also missing deicer boots on H-stabs.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Reynolds on November 05, 2006, 12:42:42 AM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Why are there red and black stripes below the wings only?

Why are there deicer boots that cut off at the leading edge (not on the bottom of the wing?!)

The metal is okay but leaves a little to be desired. If you submited the metal as-is you'd not hear any complaints, but I think it can be a bit better. This might be also related to the materials file used.

Need to see more pictures of the top-down view, bottom-up view, and the tail surfaces. Can't comment on them because we can't see them.

EDIT: Also missing deicer boots on H-stabs.


So... the metal will be so bright its blinding to anyone unfortunate enough to go into F3? lol. Just joking krusty. I like the metal as is personally.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Krusty on November 05, 2006, 12:45:28 AM
I think what is getting to me is that it's flat, doesn't seem like it's got much depth or detail to it.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 05, 2006, 02:06:15 AM
I fixed that krusty i didn't want my metal to look "cartoonish".

Anyways you mean the de-icers? I added them now sorry about that.

About the stripes i couldn't find a profile showing they were upper wing aswell.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Krusty on November 05, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
Might want to do some checking. Rather odd that they're only on the under-side. Ask around the forum. We have a handful of gurus with huge book collections (*cough*youknowwho*cough*)
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Fencer51 on November 05, 2006, 02:41:16 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Might want to do some checking. Rather odd that they're only on the under-side. Ask around the forum. We have a handful of gurus with huge book collections (*cough*youknowwho*cough*)


Geez let the guy enjoy his weekend.  Try Google.

486th BG Website with Photos of American Beauty (http://www.486th.org/Photos/Aircraft/Aircraft.htm)

My bloody Mighty Eighth book and other B-17 material has hidden itself, but you can't ask for better photos than on that link above.

Also, check out the strike photo page on the same site, cool shots.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 05, 2006, 02:55:17 PM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Geez let the guy enjoy his weekend.  Try Google.

486th BG Website with Photos of American Beauty (http://www.486th.org/Photos/Aircraft/Aircraft.htm)

My bloody Mighty Eighth book and other B-17 material has hidden itself, but you can't ask for better photos than on that link above.

Also, check out the strike photo page on the same site, cool shots.


Hmm is that white cowlings and wing tips?
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Krusty on November 05, 2006, 03:10:22 PM
Not sure... Could just be the area just inboard of it is dark, making it look painted, when it's just BMF...

Also it looks like they removed the deicer boots, and there's no stripes under the wings. However, oddly enough, there almost seems to be 3 stripes in the second link on that page, just between the stabs and the waist gunner. Isn't that kind of odd?
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Fencer51 on November 05, 2006, 03:17:59 PM
From "The Mighty Eighth"
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486th BG:
B-17G in natural metal.  Squadron codes as B-24. No uniform positioning but squadron codes commonly aft of national insignia and a/c letter forward.  Group markings: W in square.  In late 1944 red and blue bands forming cheveron on wing with blue band towards tip.  From late January 1945 wing tips and complete tail section painted yellow; three parallel bands of yellow around rear fusalage.  Existing tail markings remained but at same date squadron codes abandoned and erased.  In place nose bands and a/c letter on fuselage (forward national insignia) in squadron color; 832BS - yellow; 833BS - medium blue, 834BS - red, 835BS - bright green.  Yellow letters often edged black.


The profile I have from Osprey Combat Aircraft #36 "B-17 Flying Fortress Units of the Eighth Air Force (part 2)" shows the plane in all natural aluminum, no bands on the rear fusalage or yellow tail.  It does show the bands of red and blue on the wing, with the red chevron as angeled inward and the blue in chevron angeled astern toward the tip.

The "Eighth Air Force Story" - by Kenn Rust shows the group markings as the afore mentioned chevrons and eventual tail markings, but it also shows the wing tips colored yellow when the tail markings were added with the chevrons remaining.  No pic of the ac in that book.

No sign of white wing tips, I think that's from the comparison to the anti-icing boot.

Did you guys click the "next" at the bottom of the page, you get
this (http://www.486th.org/Photos/AC5/AmBeauty.htm), which is evidently the same plane with the colored band on the nose I mentioned above from the Mighty Eighth.

Cheers,
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 05, 2006, 03:47:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
From "The Mighty Eighth"


The profile I have from Osprey Combat Aircraft #36 "B-17 Flying Fortress Units of the Eighth Air Force (part 2)" shows the plane in all natural aluminum, no bands on the rear fusalage or yellow tail.  It does show the bands of red and blue on the wing, with the red chevron as angeled inward and the blue in chevron angeled astern toward the tip.

The "Eighth Air Force Story" - by Kenn Rust shows the group markings as the afore mentioned chevrons and eventual tail markings, but it also shows the wing tips colored yellow when the tail markings were added with the chevrons remaining.  No pic of the ac in that book.

No sign of white wing tips, I think that's from the comparison to the anti-icing boot.

Did you guys click the "next" at the bottom of the page, you get
this (http://www.486th.org/Photos/AC5/AmBeauty.htm), which is evidently the same plane with the colored band on the nose I mentioned above from the Mighty Eighth.

Cheers,
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SO add stipes on upper wing and color cowlings and nose white ?
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Fencer51 on November 05, 2006, 05:45:05 PM
I think you need to determine what time period you are doing the skin for.  If its late 44 then you need just the red and blue chevrons on the wings.  If its January 45 and later then you need to add the yellow wing tips, yellow tail and bands around the rear fusilage shown in the pic on the 486th BG site AND add a band around the nose as shown in the other pic I pointed out above.

But it all depends on what time frame you are shooting for.
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 05, 2006, 05:59:03 PM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
I think you need to determine what time period you are doing the skin for.  If its late 44 then you need just the red and blue chevrons on the wings.  If its January 45 and later then you need to add the yellow wing tips, yellow tail and bands around the rear fusilage shown in the pic on the 486th BG site AND add a band around the nose as shown in the other pic I pointed out above.

But it all depends on what time frame you are shooting for.


late 44 =)
Title: B17-G "American Beauty"
Post by: Fencer51 on November 05, 2006, 07:57:01 PM
Then it would be the red and blue chevrons on both wings upper and lower and that's it.  Nothing on the tail or wingtips or nose.