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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Reynolds on November 04, 2006, 01:40:16 PM
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Alright, I have read through my rankings this morning from last month, and my bomber rank is APALLING! 1000!!! I do a lot of bombing, I pretty much never miss with my bombs when hitting Strat. Targets (Which is just about all I do nowadays) And, I have quite a few more bails and ditches than I would like to have, but I would think I would be at least under 500. Here are my basic stats:
Damage / Deaths + 1
16614.67313 (1013)
Damage / Sorties
8941.48439 (1114)
Hit percentage
227.651 % (432)
Points
2342668.91074 (228)
Field Captures
0 (4374)
Kills: 8
Assists: 9
Sorties: 262
Landed: 99
Bailed: 50
Ditched: 14
Captured: 11
Death: 70
Disco: 18
Time hh:mm:ss 35:37:07
Ranks: 1000
That is my data for the last tour. In tour 80 my overall Bomber rank was 740, and in 79 it was 1212. Other than reducing the number of bails and ditches and making sure to land every one (Which I try any way, I just sometimes need to end a sortie fast for real-life reasons) how can I bring up my bomber rank? I know I sound petty for thinking so much about my rank, but bombing is the one thing in this game I am good at, the one thing I really dedicate myself to, and yet the numbers say I am pathetic. My squad was 50 over all bombing in that tour, and that needs to come up as well, but I assume whatever helps bring up my score can be applied to the others? I am CO of a Bomber squad, thats why I take this all so seriously. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Furball in a TMB, Reynolds in a 109... Furball teh w1n!
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That looks about right to me. Need some base captures to get rank down. Which, of course, has little to do with what you have been doing. Anyway, I bet even 1 base capture woulda dropped you into the 800's or lower.
Rank is subjective.....hit % is about all I look at anymore.
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Originally posted by Stang
Furball in a TMB, Reynolds in a 109... Furball teh w1n!
Be serious! Poor kid has rank issues. :p
Anyway, TBM"s oughtta be perked :aok
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lol. Just noticed something. the top 3 bomber pilots of tour 81 have flown, compared to my 262 missions, 1) 96 missions, 2) 35 missions, and 3) 74 missions. lol. It seems the more I fly, the worse I rank. In the entire top 5 only one pilot flew more than 100 missions, and in the top ten there are only two. Should the data be beleived that I should just fly one run-per-tour and just make it one really good one? lol. I hope that isnt the only way. In the top 20, there was only one pilot with more missions than me, Tan, with 304.
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Originally posted by Stang
Furball in a TMB, Reynolds in a 109... Furball teh w1n!
I fail to see the relevance of this. So please re-insert it oraly and blow it out yer arse.
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Originally posted by BlkKnit
That looks about right to me. Need some base captures to get rank down. Which, of course, has little to do with what you have been doing. Anyway, I bet even 1 base capture woulda dropped you into the 800's or lower.
Rank is subjective.....hit % is about all I look at anymore.
Now, as for base capture it means being the one with the goon. Alright, Ill try to get a few of those in, though whenever I am on we rarely capture even a few bases.
So base captures are one. Is there any specific kind of target I should work on other than that?
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hit percentage is not an accurate means to rank someone. for instance you look and the score minded fellows in this game(read SHawk) and they have these incredibly high hit % i think this is do to stuka raids on strat targets. this is because (IMO) that strat targets have bigger clusters of buildings. 1 bomb for 10 buildings and your hit percentage gets astronomical. that might help your score some. but it'll prolly bore you to death also.
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Originally posted by jhookt
hit percentage is not an accurate means to rank someone. for instance you look and the score minded fellows in this game(read SHawk) and they have these incredibly high hit % i think this is do to stuka raids on strat targets. this is because (IMO) that strat targets have bigger clusters of buildings. 1 bomb for 10 buildings and your hit percentage gets astronomical. that might help your score some. but it'll prolly bore you to death also.
6 x 1,000lb on an Anti Air Factory have a similar effect? I use 12 x 500lb now, should I switch to the 6 x 1000?
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no use lancs and just the 1 4000lbs bomb. not that i am a rank chaser but if i were gonna game the game that's how i would go about it. but i'm unsure whether obj eny has any effect. i dont think that it would but... the concept for hit% would be the fewer the bombs the more damage. using 6 1000lbs is going to reduce hit % cause your will prolly be dropping them close and then 1 bomb will not hit as many buildings as possible.
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Never going to fly a lancaster. I only fly 24s and 17s, especially because I am the CO of an all B-17 squad.
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thne use b-24's and the 2000lbs package
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Never going to fly a lancaster. I only fly 24s and 17s, especially because I am the CO of an all B-17 squad.
nothing wrong with lancs... :)
what happened to your 109 obsession? did you give that up after furball humiliated you? :) (you shouldn't get disheartened, he's a great stick).
the learning curve is steep but if you want to do it you can get over it pretty quickly. next time you see me, we can go to the TA if you like;)
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My buff rank is 10:)
Fighter 15 :)
Attack 12:)
gv 13 :)
Overall 2
But rank dont meen snot Reynolds only thing that matters is that the guys around u can relay on u and know in there mind if they ask reynolds to close the vh down at a feild that he can do it!:aok
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What, we get scored now on how well we do? Is this something new? How many sorties do I need to be number one in the bombers? What's a bomber, does a Stuka count? Do I have any other questions that need answers? :)
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Originally posted by Stang
Furball in a TMB, Reynolds in a 109... Furball teh w1n!
just a small victory for us dedicated buff pilots over those pesky fighter jocks..
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Originally posted by Ball
just a small victory for us dedicated buff pilots over those pesky fighter jocks..
LOL!
that's sig material right there :rofl
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Originally posted by Stang
Furball in a TMB, Reynolds in a 109... Furball teh w1n!
That quote of Reynolds still makes me chuckle.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
That quote of Reynolds still makes me chuckle.
which one? :)
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
which one? :)
Something to effect of:
Reynolds: "You're never gonna let me forget this are you?"
Furry: "No"
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The thing about bombing is, if ya kill HANGARS, which are the hardest target to A:hit, and B: survive, ya will get the least points=---if ya want rank, go for easy strat targets or cv,s with big eggs
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this one?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155240639_tbm.jpg)
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Originally posted by Ball
this one?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155240639_tbm.jpg)
lol, i haven't seen that yet!
i heard about what happened, but that pic is great :rofl
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Originally posted by Ball
this one?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155240639_tbm.jpg)
Yes! (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/dirtbox/pics/muttley.gif)
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Originally posted by Ball
just a small victory for us dedicated buff pilots over those pesky fighter jocks..
lol!!! Thats funny. Either you have it backwards, (I am a dedicated BUFFer, I fly fighters as a hobby) or you still do not understand me. And no, I still love 109s. Still fly them often, I have just always held bombers (Especially the 17) in a bit higher esteem. I have just never got in a bomber-argument.
And, if you want to talk about the me vs. furbie fight, take it somewhere else. That has NOTHING to do with this topic, so unless you cannot read, I can only conclude you are :
A) flaming
or
B) stupid.
And panzzer, the sad thing is, you can fly a bomber only once, and still be #1, while people who fly hundreds are much lower because the more missions you fly, the more likely you are to mess up once or twice simply because there are more opportunities.
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Oh, and by the way, im not embarrased about the furbie incident. I heald no dillusions that I would win. I am one of the worst fighter pilots in the game, and I have always had been. The argument that started that had nothing to do with skill, he questioned my reasons for flying that particular plane, and HE suggested a duel. I didnt then, and dont now see the point of dueling to settle an argument about ones motivations, but we all know if I said "No, I dont want to fight you" I would be getting it a lot worse than I am for losing.
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With one or two base captures by goon, you rank would have dropped significantly... probably lower than 100.
The key to rank in any category is to have a score in each of the line items. That lowers the rank for that item which is then added to compute the overall rank in that category. You ZERO base captures giving a rank of 4799 is what killed your bomber rank.
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Bomber ranking is one of the most messed up things in this game.. I can hit anything I drop a bomb on, I could hit anything I droped a bomb on with the old bomb calibration meathod but yet my bomber rank is and was lower than some loser gaming the game to get the best over all ranking in a 1 bomb dive bomber..
I don't really care about my rank much but this is kinda stupid.
Maybe if the factories were worth hitting the bomber guys would go hit them more and give the rank dweebs a run for the rank.. I can see how the strat factories work and how it would effect the game but the way the game is played now the factories are next to pointless.
Give us aircraft/GV factories that have the effect of the ENY limiter. If the factory gets hit the ENY go's up and you don't get your uber planes. :D
I bet we would see some real bomber missions and defence spring out of this lol.
Ohhh CRAP there are Buffs inbound for the aircraft factory!!!!!! Scramble scramble!!!!
You see how people dislike the ENY limiter right? I think this would make for some good conficts in game if people had the chance to stop the ENY.
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Originally posted by Reynolds
lol!!! Thats funny. Either you have it backwards, (I am a dedicated BUFFer, I fly fighters as a hobby) or you still do not understand me.
that was just a joke on me, and no, i dont understand you - but then i havent really put much thought into it.
Originally posted by Reynolds
The argument that started that had nothing to do with skill, he questioned my reasons for flying that particular plane, and HE suggested a duel. I didnt then, and dont now see the point of dueling to settle an argument about ones motivations, but we all know if I said "No, I dont want to fight you" I would be getting it a lot worse than I am for losing.
ROFL i didnt challenge you to anything. Why would i?
You went mental after i jokingly drew up a southpark character of a little kid with a teddy bear in a leather outfit with "i fly 109" above it.
You then said something along the lines of "Duel me, i will show you what german steel tastes like" and went about trying to set up a time when we were both free.
Why lie to turn it round? People that play this game will know by now that i am not one to go challenging people to duels.
EDIT:
i found the pic
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1154719849_reynolds.jpg)
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Oh my god!!!!!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
wow, in the space of 5 posts this thread has become hilarious :lol
'lol!!! Thats funny. Either you have it backwards, (I am a dedicated BUFFer, I fly fighters as a hobby) or you still do not understand me. And no, I still love 109s. Still fly them often, I have just always held bombers (Especially the 17) in a bit higher esteem. I have just never got in a bomber-argument.
And, if you want to talk about the me vs. furbie fight, take it somewhere else. That has NOTHING to do with this topic, so unless you cannot read, I can only conclude you are...'
furbie was joking, that was quite a funny joke, i guess you just didn't get it
'I am one of the worst fighter pilots in the game, and I have always had been.'
hey, you've only been about for a short time. the problem is that a lot of guys your age find it hard to stick with the learning curve for fighters, so they move into the easier bombing and land grab circuit.
if you're still interested in fighters i'd be more than happy to help you out mate, we can go to the TA anytime ;)
and furby, that picture is absolutely hilarious! you deserve an award for that :rofl very funny thread:D
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Alright, I have read through my rankings this morning from last month, and my bomber rank is APALLING! 1000!!! I do a lot of bombing, I pretty much never miss with my bombs when hitting Strat. Targets (Which is just about all I do nowadays) And, I have quite a few more bails and ditches than I would like to have, but I would think I would be at least under 500. Here are my basic stats:
Damage / Deaths + 1
16614.67313 (1013)
Damage / Sorties
8941.48439 (1114)
Hit percentage
227.651 % (432)
Points
2342668.91074 (228)
Field Captures
0 (4374)
Kills: 8
Assists: 9
Sorties: 262
Landed: 99
Bailed: 50
Ditched: 14
Captured: 11
Death: 70
Disco: 18
Time hh:mm:ss 35:37:07
Ranks: 1000
That is my data for the last tour. In tour 80 my overall Bomber rank was 740, and in 79 it was 1212. Other than reducing the number of bails and ditches and making sure to land every one (Which I try any way, I just sometimes need to end a sortie fast for real-life reasons) how can I bring up my bomber rank? I know I sound petty for thinking so much about my rank, but bombing is the one thing in this game I am good at, the one thing I really dedicate myself to, and yet the numbers say I am pathetic. My squad was 50 over all bombing in that tour, and that needs to come up as well, but I assume whatever helps bring up my score can be applied to the others? I am CO of a Bomber squad, that's why I take this all so seriously. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
A City a day helps you work rest and play. (adapted 70's advert). Certain strats pay for rank.... Cities and factories etc. I haven't bothered working the order out. I know after the "City" the fuel factory pays the best. I have only ever hit strats to slow the regains down. Most folk don't hit fuel cells on fields so I feel there is little need to go "twat" the fuel factory. Knock yourself out trying to work out best strats to score but working to slow regains down is better for the "war effort".
Certain load outs also pay for rank. You said B17's or B24's is all your really going to use. Load out should be 500's or 250's. I'd plumb for 500's for 2 reason. 1) Damage sortie and 2) Damage sortie if you loose a drone to ack or fighters.
I know your going to think "well why not take the bigger bombs". Basically because there is less of them. I can do more damage to a city in 3 passes with 12 x 500's than in 2 passes with 8 x 1K'ers. May I recommend you try this out on a fresh city. 1 day use 500's the next use 1K'ers. You'll understand from percentage of damage to the City after you RTB MT.
I use 250's also at times but mostly strating in B26's or High Alt Bomber Porking in B17's. Dars ammo's etc.
Only ever 1 type of "salvo" to use and one "delay" and its dot salvo 1 dot delay 0.05. This is for Cities, factories, towns and smaller strats. Other targets may need different salvo's to ords i.e.Cv's using 1K'ers = dot salvo 4. (Delay is a personal preference.) Some use default dot delay 0.05 I use dot delay 0.24. The point two four is the length of the CV :)
CV's pay great for "damage" sortie but crap for hit percentage because about 1/3 of the bombs actually miss. splash splash booom. splash splash boom. Granted, you are scoring "blast damage" but a hit is after all, a hit.
This brings us to fields finally. TOWNS! TOWNS! TOWNS!.... nothing pays better on fields for bomber score, than the town. (Personally I think this is how HTC intended it to be. I could get into this whole TOWN bombing thing as to hanger banging crap but that's a different thread.) There are plenty of targets to hit so "hit" percent and "damage" sortie is lots greater than avacadoting 3 or 4 poxy hangers or ammo bunkers or troops etc, etc.
Above is "how or what to do" with bombs but there is 1 other thing you MUST do and that's a C47 field capture. 1 to 3 captures is easy to obtain over the period of TOD. I'm an Off Peak user and it's easier in some respects to get a capture. V bases are simple and many.
Gaming the game bomber score...... Nuka Stuka R us. Take the 1 x 3,200 Lb bomb 1,500Kg. Bomb the nearest City or factory. Land re-arm and repeat until the tears of boredom stream of your cheeks.... Now check hit percentage.
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Originally posted by Ball
i found the pic
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1154719849_reynolds.jpg)
I'm with Biggles on this, the picture pwnz!!!!! (http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/totlach.gif)
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Originally posted by Ball
i found the pic
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1154719849_reynolds.jpg)
Funniest thing I've seen here in a while!:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Furbie, why the hell would I challenge you?!? You said to "Prove it" and fight you. And biggles, I didnt 'Give Up' and go to bombers. I always liked bombers! Especially the B-17. Its just, how often do we get in arguments about which bomber is better?
Lynx, thanks. I already use 500lb bombs, when hitting AAA factories I come either east to west or west to east, hitting the southern portion (A straight line of nothing but buildings) with salvo 12 delay .55
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Here are my basic stats:
Damage / Deaths + 1
16614.67313 (1013)
Damage / Sorties
8941.48439 (1114)
Hit percentage
227.651 % (432)
Points
2342668.91074 (228)
Field Captures
0 (4374)
All those numbers in parenthesis are the ones that matter. Your bomber rank is the average of the red numbers as compaired with everyone else. Those with a better average are ranked better than you. Any number over 1000 is really going to kill your average.
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This is whats wrecking your potential to better bomber rank---->salvo 12 delay .55 2 reasons. 1) some of your bombs are blowing buildings up and the bombs that follow in are scored as misses. No buildings as such to hit. They are already down. 2) salvos have a habit of hitting empty spaces in between clusters of buildings and again scoring misses.
Use .salvo 1 .delay 0.05 and hit individual targets. Salvoing as it really should be, isn't good. We have lazer sites now and you should drop 1 cluster of buildings with just 1 press of release.
City with an approach from south for an example... Line west side. Targets are 2 diamonds 1 back slash shape and 1 cluster blob. Thats 4 bombs out 2 on the diamonds (1 per portion) then 1 and 1 . Extend north west and turn back in and line for ther LONG MIDDLE back slash shape. You want 3 or 4 out on that. Extend South East and turn back in lining from the south south east. East side of city is not south to north it's more east south east to north north west. Put 2 bombs out in the 2 east side sections.
That's all sections of the city hit with all 12 bombs. You could salvo 12 across the middle of the city but there sure is alot of empty space to score lots of "misses".
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Originally posted by Reynolds
And biggles, I didnt 'Give Up' and go to bombers. I always liked bombers! Especially the B-17. Its just, how often do we get in arguments about which bomber is better?
gotcha ;)
well if you need help just holler ;)
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Thanks. I think I may take you up on that.
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Lynx, I salvo .55 because it is the perfect delay. (http://www.freewebs.com/stepford_child/aaa.JPG)
The vertical red lines (2x) are the beggingin and end of the bomb drop. The red horizontal line is the path I follow. Notice the damage done and the location of the buildings. If I am hitting a city, its a different delay and different path, but my primary target is the AAA factory.
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on that run you could take out all those buildings with 5-6 500lbs bombs dropped, whats that in a 17, half the load?
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Lynx, I salvo .55 because it is the perfect delay. (http://www.freewebs.com/stepford_child/aaa.JPG)
The vertical red lines (2x) are the beggingin and end of the bomb drop. The red horizontal line is the path I follow. Notice the damage done and the location of the buildings. If I am hitting a city, its a different delay and different path, but my primary target is the AAA factory.
In the opening post you asked....
how can I bring up my bomber rank?
I told you how in my first reply then you said
Lynx, thanks. I already use 500lb bombs, when hitting AAA factories I come either east to west or west to east, hitting the southern portion (A straight line of nothing but buildings) with salvo 12 delay .55
To which i replied "This is whats wrecking your potential to better bomber rank---->salvo 12 delay .55 "
OK ... groovy, get ya, you are doing it all WRONG. That factory should be hit with single salvo's. 4 to 6 bombs out each run. 1 drop 1 bomb salvo 1. I would hit it top to bottom east side then middle and lastly west.
This is the third and last bit of advice. If you ask or debate beyond the following then your just taking the Piss.
1) The targets are Cities / factories
2) Use 500's in B17's / B24's
3) The salvo is 1
4) The delay is 0.05
5) Drop 1 bomb at a time on a cluster of buildings.
6) Revise your line ups to maximize targets available.
Hate to burst ya bubble or piss on ya chips so's to speak but I've been number 1 bomber and in the top 10 often. "Salvo's" don't do crap. They are a waste of bombs.
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I disagree that salvos are wrecking things. I understand your point about hitting things you have already just destroyed, but I truely beleive in a target such as this, salvos are just as effective. I WILL try both without salvo and with a revised salvo (Salvo 6 delay .55) and two runs, and see which is more effective. The problem I find with individual bombs on large numbers of buildings, I often either underestimate or overestimate the number of buildings and the proximity to the bomb that will be affected. Monday evening I will try both your way and mine on that particular target, and will re-post here with raw data and screenshots. Thank you for the helpful information, I just refuse to beleive (And this is probably doing me great harm) that salvos are THAT much less effective than individual bombs in this type of situation. I do however, also disagree with the directions you suggest. I think it is better to attack west to east then north to south. Perhaps I may try that out as well. Again thank you for the input!
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Also learn to gun the crates, this is a must, 8 kills and 70 deaths is horrendous. Dont take newbie gunners on board, learn to do it yourself. Those numbers are garaunteed to keep you well behind the top 1000 players in damage/death and maybe also damage/sortie as I'm pretty sure more points are given for landing.
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Wow who cares about rank shows what little life you have but if you want a low bomber rank capture alot of fields and kill alot of cvs with out missing or loseing a buff I had a hit% of 9.something doing this rank 5 a few tours back when I could use my arm.
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Reynolds, I use salvos when bombing.
I'll change the salvo from 1 to whatever I need it to be. My delay is usually around 0.4 but that's because of the speed at which I fly. Delay is always different, depending on your ground speed, and size of bombs. I usually take lancasters to 25k and bring down a City Factory from 100 to 30% in 1 sortie and about 3 to 4 passes.
Using salvo's is fun. I usually set my salvo seconds before dropping. I'll change my salvo many times in a single bombing sortie.
Bomb to have fun and not to be #1 in Bomber Ranks.
Edit:
BTW, don't waste your time on certain people.
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I belive what Lynx iis trying to say is by salvoing 12 bombs out on the run we'll say only half are blowing stuff up, because the other half is just blowing up craters, and you don't get points for that, so your way your hitting at 50%
Salvoing one at a time, and dropping on clusters, or groups of buildings will give you 2 and 3 building per bomb hit making your hit percentage 300% or more.
Seeing as LYNX has 7 bomber runs and is ranked 149th in bombers he may know what he's talking about. :)
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Originally posted by viper215
Wow who cares about rank shows what little life you have but if you want a low bomber rank capture alot of fields and kill alot of cvs with out missing or loseing a buff I had a hit% of 9.something doing this rank 5 a few tours back when I could use my arm.
I agree 100% Viper. <>
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
because of the speed at which I fly
I cruise (And bomb) at max cruise (2,100) which puts me about 220 mph at most. As far as gunning, yeah, I let newbies gun for me to teach them the basics far too often, and find myself on the toilet when I hear the tear of metal from the other room, and go "Crap. Always when im in the other room". I think that was the last month I let someone gun for me! (Sad thing about having a gunner is you dont get credit for the kill, ask Dolby. I got a 262 with a B-17 but since he was on board, I only got the assist.)
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your ground speed and indicated speed are different and the difference changes as your altitude changes.
ex:
160mph at 10k may be 190 ground speed.
160mph at 30k may be 270 ground speed.
Also, who ever does the most damage to the enemy plane, gets credit for the kill.
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Also, who ever does the most damage to the enemy plane, gets credit for the kill.
Then something is wrong because from the nose turret I got his:
no. 1 engine
no. 1 oil
no. 2 oil
Port-side fuel
Pilot (kill)
So, saw my own shots do the damage, as I was taking him head-on. I have had it in the past, where I have gunned for someone and not fired a shot whil the pilot did the gunning. I got the kill without pulling my trigger and he got the assist. I think when you have a gunner in a bomber the gunner gets the kill.
Oh yeah, and as for speed, true airspeed is about 220, at 18,000 feet with around 980 galons of fuel at the IP and RPMs at 2,100. No wind, by the way. What is the difference in airspeed/groundspeed in that situation? (Thats not sarcasm, I really havnt gotten to the point in my edjucation when I learn these things)
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TBM despite very poor guns is a very nimble little plane, and the 109 easy to fall victim in a turn fight. but congrats on beating, then humiliating a little kid trying to have fun in 'your' game....
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people are always surprised when an SBD, TBM or D3A tries dogfighting them, so much so that they're usually easy meat in LW :t
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Wait a minute! Are you guys talking about scores in this game?
Why the heck doesn't anyone tell me about these things!
And what are these bomb thingies you speak of?
Oh, I get it. You mean this big things under the wings with gas in em?
You mean I'm supposed to drop em? Raptor never drops his and claims he can dogfight just fine that way. Of course he flies with a mouse, or so he says. I wonder if he get's lots of mouse droppings in the cockpit? Is that why his 38 always smells of cheese?
If I drop these big things under the wings on another plane will the bad guy fall down then?
I don't get it. I'm confused as usual.......
Forget it. Getting into the air is tough enough. Anyone have a jack and an air pump I can borrow?
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
TBM despite very poor guns is a very nimble little plane, and the 109 easy to fall victim in a turn fight. but congrats on beating, then humiliating a little kid trying to have fun in 'your' game....
batfink, you have no idea what happened so how about you keep that big red clown nose of yours out. ok?
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sure thing ace, you have your fun.
and since when did knowing solid facts make any difference to how and what people stuck their noses in on these boards?
:lol
i fart in your general direction.
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wow..........
Slow down. Hold ya horses. Summut "pen N inks". Talk about "FISHY"
We are on tour 82.
Reynolds hasn't played since tour 79.
Reynolds account started tour 77.
Reynolds arguing the toss against sound advice.
Reynolds from 303 bombradment (spelt wrong) recruiting.
Reynolds done 1,750 posts since June this year.
Stang first on this thread (BK thing I suppose) recalling something from >>>2 months ago<<<
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i dont think stang or furball are sad and lonely enough to create a shade just for the sake of pretending to shoot it down in a tbm. i sure hope they aint.
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Originally posted by LYNX
Stang first on this thread (BK thing I suppose) recalling something from >>>2 months ago<<<
he didnt piss me off at all. i had them still uploaded on onpoi.net from the original thread which was in the aircraft and vehicles forum (it was deleted).
a quick search of his posts would show that he is indeed not me, not stang, or not a BK.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
sure thing ace, you have your fun.
and since when did knowing solid facts make any difference to how and what people stuck their noses in on these boards?
:lol
i fart in your general direction.
I have had my fun, someone else brought it up.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Wait a minute! Are you guys talking about scores in this game?
Why the heck doesn't anyone tell me about these things!
And what are these bomb thingies you speak of?
Oh, I get it. You mean this big things under the wings with gas in em?
You mean I'm supposed to drop em? Raptor never drops his and claims he can dogfight just fine that way. Of course he flies with a mouse, or so he says. I wonder if he get's lots of mouse droppings in the cockpit? Is that why his 38 always smells of cheese?
If I drop these big things under the wings on another plane will the bad guy fall down then?
I don't get it. I'm confused as usual.......
Forget it. Getting into the air is tough enough. Anyone have a jack and an air pump I can borrow?
No, but you can borrow my PJ if you want. Just a little maintenance needed after my last flight, but im sure you can handle it no problem....
(http://www.slowcat.de/slowcats1/films/P38-Corkylanding2.jpg)
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Reynolds where do your bombers fly? :t
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Wow! Been flying around Silat a bit too long i see :D
Wrong colors on that 38, but other then that it could be mistaken for a typical 80th Headhunter 38 easily :)
Well done Schatzi. It takes skill to wreck a 38 that well and still have enough left to park it at the end of your flight :aok
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Originally posted by Schatzi
No, but you can borrow my PJ if you want. Just a little maintenance needed after my last flight, but im sure you can handle it no problem....
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heh schatzi, the aircraft maintenance crew over here at the 80th camp is simply top notch. everytime we crash one he is able to repair it to mint condition....he is very fast too and since he does so much work he can charge much less for his efforts:)
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Originally posted by LYNX
wow..........
Unless this "REYNOLDS" guy has had a change of name
No, do you think?
<----- Serenity
Guess what, you have it backwards. HE pissed ME the hell off.
And Platan0, I can give your our coordinates, but be warned, we fly in numbers ;)
But you have to promise to fly a german plane if you intercept, because I film all of our runs.
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Originally posted by Ball
he didnt piss me off at all. i had them still uploaded on onpoi.net from the original thread which was in the aircraft and vehicles forum (it was deleted).
a quick search of his posts would show that he is indeed not me, not stang, or not a BK.
Thank you. I can see clearly now that all is revealed in that e-mail
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lol! Me being accused of being furball?!? Thats ***** HILARIOUS!!! Maybe I can go as Furbie next halloween?
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Reynolds...assuming you keep a steady speed of 150mph indicated, your ground speed increases the higher you go, as well as range, to a point. Many things happen differently at different altitudes.
Again, if you have a gunner, so what, you can still kill people and get credit for it.
If you see me online, I can teach you all the little things about bombing.
I fly the B17 primarily, but also fly the:
B24
Ki67
Lancaster
I'm only telling you this because you seem to be assuming many things that are wrong and I'm trying to just help you out. Please trust me on this and see for yourself while flying. I mainly just want to prevent you from spreading wrong information to your pilots in your squad or even just other players in this game.
Also, max cruise is a fine setting during leveled flight, but normal settings can be better in certain ways. There are pros and cons when reducing rpms. The higher your rpms, the faster your speed stablizes.
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Also, max cruise is a fine setting during leveled flight, but normal settings can be better in certain ways. There are pros and cons when reducing rpms. The higher your rpms, the faster your speed stablizes.
The sole purpose of Max Cruise (In addition to maximising range while minimizing fuel required) is for realism.
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Originally posted by Reynolds
The sole purpose of Max Cruise (In addition to maximising range while minimizing fuel required) is for realism.
That's nice.
Did you understand the rest of the previous replies?
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Originally posted by Reynolds
I disagree that salvos are wrecking things. I understand your point about hitting things you have already just destroyed, but I truely beleive in a target such as this, salvos are just as effective. I WILL try both without salvo and with a revised salvo (Salvo 6 delay .55) and two runs, and see which is more effective. The problem I find with individual bombs on large numbers of buildings, I often either underestimate or overestimate the number of buildings and the proximity to the bomb that will be affected. Monday evening I will try both your way and mine on that particular target, and will re-post here with raw data and screenshots. Thank you for the helpful information, I just refuse to beleive (And this is probably doing me great harm) that salvos are THAT much less effective than individual bombs in this type of situation. I do however, also disagree with the directions you suggest. I think it is better to attack west to east then north to south. Perhaps I may try that out as well. Again thank you for the input!
Reynolds, youll have to make up your mind on what you WANT.
If you want your rank to be lower, *follow* the advice given in this thread. Dropping more then one bomb at a time WILL lower your hit% (ie your rank). Does that mean without salvo your bombing more effectively? Nope. But being effective isnt the objective, your rank is (or so you said).
You get the best hit% when upping a LANC (with 4000lb) or a Stuka with the 1800kg and drop *single* bombs on strat target, where they hit as many small buildings at once as possible.
Then get some field captures in with a C47 (ie going to your bomber score).
Or just forget about the whole rank thing altogether. As this thread shouldve shown you, a good bomber rank has little to do with effective bombing and more with exact planning on which stat to raise how. Do yourself a favor and go back to HAVING FUN in the game.
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let me see if I get this right
Person 1 asks for help in lowering bomber rank
Numerous persons offer help as was requested
person 1 continues to argue point that their way is the proper way
this begs the question why ask for help????
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by sgt203
this begs the question why ask for help????
Not neccessarily. Question is: what has been asked?
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Reynolds, youll have to make up your mind on what you WANT.
If you want your rank to be lower, *follow* the advice given in this thread. Dropping more then one bomb at a time WILL lower your hit% (ie your rank). Does that mean without salvo your bombing more effectively? Nope. But being effective isnt the objective, your rank is (or so you said).
You get the best hit% when upping a LANC (with 4000lb) or a Stuka with the 1800kg and drop *single* bombs on strat target, where they hit as many small buildings at once as possible.
Then get some field captures in with a C47 (ie going to your bomber score).
Or just forget about the whole rank thing altogether. As this thread shouldve shown you, a good bomber rank has little to do with effective bombing and more with exact planning on which stat to raise how. Do yourself a favor and go back to HAVING FUN in the game.
Yes Schatzi, you make a great point as always. I shall do this (Forget score entirely) and for the record, I tried the modified salvo, dropping six instead of twelve, and it did more damage, so thank you lynx.
Originally posted by sgt203
person 1 continues to argue point that their way is the proper way
Close, but not quite. "Arguing that their way makes more sense as far as effectiveness, and thus SHOULD be the proper way" is closer to the truth.
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Close, but not quite. "Arguing that their way makes more sense as far as effectiveness, and thus SHOULD be the proper way" is closer to the truth.
As i said in another thread... score is mechanically calculated and doesnt neccessarily make sense :).
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Originally posted by Schatzi
As i said in another thread... score is mechanically calculated and doesnt neccessarily make sense :).
Mechanically? You mean score is not calculated with computers but with this kind of machines?:
(http://www.gschwaninger.de/hobbies/hp/adamriese/calcorex1.jpg)
(http://www.gschwaninger.de/hobbies/hp/adamriese/piccolo1.jpg)
That would indeed explain much... :noid