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Title: exit polls
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 07, 2006, 01:05:46 PM
No one was talking to the exit pollers today at our precinct. They packed up and left before lunch.

Let's see how far the exit polls are from the actual results THIS year.
Title: exit polls
Post by: sluggish on November 07, 2006, 01:15:49 PM
I've never seen an exit poller.  If I did I'd be sure to tell them the exact oposite of how I voted.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Mickey1992 on November 07, 2006, 01:22:25 PM
Screw exit polls.  They just feed the fast-food, hurry up, I-want-it-now culture.  Is 24 hours too long to wait for official vote counts?
Title: exit polls
Post by: Thrawn on November 07, 2006, 01:27:22 PM
Exit polls are also used to judge the veracity of an election.
Title: exit polls
Post by: sluggish on November 07, 2006, 01:44:07 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Exit polls are also used to judge the veracity of an election.


:lol :rolleyes: MKAY...
Title: exit polls
Post by: storch on November 07, 2006, 01:58:44 PM
no exit pollers at my precict this time either.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Eagler on November 07, 2006, 02:14:09 PM
none here .. have never seen one - ever

again it is a "poll" - an anonymous one at that

who is to say they are not at home or the bar filling them out as they like .. there is ZERO verification of the data
Title: exit polls
Post by: john9001 on November 07, 2006, 02:35:23 PM
i demand a recount!
Title: exit polls
Post by: Stang on November 07, 2006, 02:39:08 PM
I've never seen an exit poller in 8 years of voting.  Then again, I live in a heavily Republican district.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Thrawn on November 07, 2006, 03:47:18 PM
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Originally posted by sluggish
:lol :rolleyes: MKAY...



No it's true.  It's a tool we've used in the free western world to determine if an election in a banana republic is ligitimate or not.

If the election results differ enough from exit polls we know that there is a good chance that the election was hinky.  We've used them for ages.  You see polling is very acturate.  It's why corporations spend a bajillion dollars on them for market research purposes.
Title: exit polls
Post by: john9001 on November 07, 2006, 03:56:22 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
 You see polling is very acturate.  It's why corporations spend a bajillion dollars on them for market research purposes.


the "new coke"? or maybe the "edsel"
Title: exit polls
Post by: Thrawn on November 07, 2006, 04:01:36 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
the "new coke"? or maybe the "edsel"



Wrong question was asked.  People where asked if it tasted better, not if they would rather buy in instead of coke.  

More subtle differences than, "Who did you vote for.".  But regardless, polling does work....that's why corporations still spend so much money on it.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Eagler on November 07, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
It's why corporations spend a bajillion dollars on them for market research purposes.


and depending on who is doing the marketing research where and on what, the data can be 100% falsified as there is not a name attached to it and no way to verify it ... believe me, I know, I have seen it 1st hand.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Thrawn on November 07, 2006, 05:00:35 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
and depending on who is doing the marketing research where and on what, the data can be 100% falsified as there is not a name attached to it and no way to verify it ... believe me, I know, I have seen it 1st hand.


I'm sure some do this, but they just make a bit of noise in the overall picture.
Title: exit polls
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 07, 2006, 05:08:10 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
I've never seen an exit poller in 8 years of voting.  Then again, I live in a heavily Republican district.


Was just talking abut this with people I know this past week
In 27 years of voting I've never seen an exit poller in any township I've every lived in.
Nobody I know has ever seen one either.
And of the people I know. they havent had anyone they know tell them they have ever seen one.

This time I really wish I had.
I had two distinct priviledges today. (Voting is s right not a priviledge)
First and formost
At his request
I took my son to vote his very first time.
Was pretty cool to see how exited he was about it

Second. And the reason I wished I came across an exit poller
I penciled my sons name in for one of the congrassional seats.
Rather then cast a vote for either of the two yo yos running whom after almost a year of  running still havvent said what either of them were about.
So I voted for the person I thought would do the best job.
Next to me. That happens to be my son.
and it was the next best thing from abstaining out of disgust

Wasted vote. Perhaps.
Making a mockery of the election?
The two running already did that long before I ever cast my ballot
Title: exit polls
Post by: Stang on November 07, 2006, 06:05:25 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK

Second. And the reason I wished I came across an exit poller
I penciled my sons name in for one of the congrassional seats.
LOL I almost wrote in someone else as well.  
:lol
Title: exit polls
Post by: Shamus on November 07, 2006, 06:51:44 PM
"shamus" got one vote for county commissioner :)

shamus
Title: exit polls
Post by: Thrawn on November 07, 2006, 09:43:36 PM
The reason why you guys don't "see" any exit pollers, is because they are conducted over the phone.

I was pollster for a market research company during the 2004 elections, we were mostly handling Ohio for a major television network.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 07, 2006, 10:46:15 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
The reason why you guys don't "see" any exit pollers, is because they are conducted over the phone.


Well, there's no real chance for error there, is there? Exit polls are one of the biggest jokes of the whole system. The only thing they prove the veracity of is the stupidity of the people who believe them. It never ceases to amaze me how wrong they are, and how people continue to believe them and make excuses for the errors.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Thrawn on November 08, 2006, 06:18:30 AM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Well, there's no real chance for error there, is there? Exit polls are one of the biggest jokes of the whole system.



LOLs.  Of course there are chances for error (that's why the margin of error information is included with polling results :rolleyes:,),but they are minimal.  They are still incredibly accurate.  Hell, your government thinks so as well.  Hence they are used in election monitoring all over the world.  But I guess a certain kind of extremist ideologue will strike out at anything that even might suggest that Bush's elections are tainted.  Probably the same kind of person that doesn't think that astronaughts didn't go to the moon.
Title: exit polls
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 08, 2006, 06:21:35 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
The reason why you guys don't "see" any exit pollers, is because they are conducted over the phone.

I was pollster for a market research company during the 2004 elections, we were mostly handling Ohio for a major television network.


Well for that matter.
I've never been called by one either
Title: exit polls
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 08, 2006, 06:42:30 AM
Exit polls are and have been notoriously inaccurate. They wouldn't even be close to the only thing that the government was stupid enough to fall for.

Oh, they've missed by more than the margin of error, and not just when Bush was elected and re-elected either.
Title: exit polls
Post by: Eagler on November 08, 2006, 06:59:36 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I was pollster for a market research company during the 2004 elections, we were mostly handling Ohio for a major television network.


well that explains this then:
Ohios exit polls overestimated Kerry offical vote by 5.8%
with an 11.7% difference between the exit polls and the actual votes..
poll pdf (http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/OH/Ohio-Exit-Polls-2004.pdf)