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Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: DiabloTX on November 11, 2006, 06:50:25 PM: Secrets of the Dead
PBS Nov 11 07:00pm
Series/Documentary, 60 Mins.

"Dogfight Over Guadalcanal" Episode #601.
A re-creation of the dogfight between one American and one Japanese pilot who faced each other over the Pacific in the summer of 1942.

Original Airdate: November 8, 2006.

Did anyone else see this? How was it?
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: Debonair on November 11, 2006, 07:38:49 PM: i got the impression that the japanese pilot was Saburo Sakai, but i missed it:mad: :mad: :mad: :cry :cry
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: WMLute on November 11, 2006, 08:39:08 PM: I happened to catch some of that.

Was incredible. Fantastic film footage.

Was flying at the time, and unfort. didn't give it the undevided attention it deserved.
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: DiabloTX on November 11, 2006, 08:57:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by WMLute
I happened to catch some of that....Was flying at the time

:O
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: gunnss on November 12, 2006, 01:05:14 AM: I watched it, It may be worth buying the DVD....

Was the same flight that Saki got shot thru the head by the dorsal gunner of a US dive bomber.....

He still made it home, with just a compass, while paralized and blind on one side.

Gunns
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: cav58d on November 12, 2006, 01:07:55 AM: anyone ever see the curb your enthusiasm episode with the jap kamakizee pilot?????? "sooo uhhh...What happened??? At the last second did he think...."hey, maybe this kamakizee business just isnt for me...i'm gonna return to base".....CHICKEN!

lmfao

great epidose

especially the banzaii wheel chair charge at the end
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: DiabloTX on November 12, 2006, 01:23:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by cav58d
great epidose

Cav, put the bong down, step away from the recliner.

:D
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: Debonair on November 12, 2006, 03:01:55 AM: Quote
Originally posted by cav58d
anyone ever see the curb your enthusiasm episode with the jap kamakizee pilot?????? "sooo uhhh...What happened??? At the last second did he think...."hey, maybe this kamakizee business just isnt for me...i'm gonna return to base".....CHICKEN!

lmfao

great epidose

especially the banzaii wheel chair charge at the end

I actually have a book written by an ex-kamikaze pilot.
His whole formantion went out on it's mission & came back to tell the tale...
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: CavPuke on November 12, 2006, 08:14:14 AM: Was a great program. They focused on this particular fight since it was well documented by both pilots and they wanted to see how accurate the pilot reports were, as it turns out both pilots were pretty accurate as to what happened and how. The show reproduced the dogfight with computer animation with the narrator using the pilot statements as to what happened and why. Then a retired U.S.A.F. crash investigator went to the crash site of the Wildcat on Guadalcanal to determine if the shoot down happened as stated by the IJN pilot. Basically they concluded that dogfight happened just as the pilots reported. All in all if the program is repeated it's worth the time to watch it. The next episode is on Dr. Wallis (sp?) and the dam busters. One other caveat is the fact that it is broadcast in HD (at least here in Houston).
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: hacksaw1 on November 12, 2006, 09:59:17 AM: Dogfight over Guadalcanal (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-446099415038383164&q=guadalcanal)
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: Mace2004 on November 12, 2006, 10:13:19 AM: Great link, thanks.

BTW, you guys ever notice that they always manage to dig up the same scene of three dive bombers dropping their bombs on Pearl Harbor? (4:36 in the video). Ahhhh...ever notice those three diver bombers are Douglas SBDs? This scene always makes it into these documentaries. I read a letter written by a WWII SBD pilot to a documentary maker...he was livid and sick and tired of having his plane described as Japanese, specifically the Jap planes that bombed Pearl. Doesn't appear his letter had much effect.
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: AWMac on November 12, 2006, 12:10:11 PM: Seen the Documentary as I was flying... had to turf to watch the entire thing. It was great.

Called out to others in the arena that it was on. Later I just wanted to fly Wildcats and Zekes. :D

This is why I have a small TV next to my puter. It paid off.

Mac
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: stantond on November 12, 2006, 12:35:42 PM: That was a great show! Did anyone see if they figured out why the wildcat's guns didn't fire when the american pilot (I forgot his name) was behind Saki? I hope to watch it again.

Regards,

Malta
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: Thrawn on November 12, 2006, 02:11:13 PM: Great show, but why, oh why, did they let that villager take those artifacts out of context without recording them?
Title: PBS: Secrets Of The Dead
Post by: CavPuke on November 12, 2006, 03:24:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by stantond
That was a great show! Did anyone see if they figured out why the wildcat's guns didn't fire when the american pilot (I forgot his name) was behind Saki? I hope to watch it again.

Regards,

Malta

When the wildcat make a 6 O'clock low approach on the bombers one of the bombers gunners hit the feed tray for the guns on one wing, disabling the guns. As far as the other wings guns they never did address the fact as to whether he'd run out of ammo or what.