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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1K3 on November 13, 2006, 01:53:30 PM
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Lets start on what it will come with. And this is by far everything, but a pretty good overlay of its capabilites.
Features: Basic
-Interactivity with the PSP, which includes using it as a remote for DVDs, music, videos etc. Or as a portable storage for the PS3 which may include PS/PS2/PS3 game saves etc, or as used interactivily in games. Such as being able to use it as a rear window view on a car-based game. And thats not even the slightest it can do with the PSP. There is so much more. Also you can access the PS3 wirelessly from the PSP and view videos, play music, photos anywhere in range of the PS3.
-Uses Blu-Ray disks for games. Which means the game devolopers can pack more game on these disks. And not to mention you will automatically have a Blu-Ray player.
-The miriad of things to use on its classic XMB interface (as seen with the PSP) Which includes viewing videos, music, photos, browsing the internet, browsing through files found on USB devices, Ipods etc.
-Can play: BluRay-ROM, DVD-ROM, CD-ROM, SACD, Playstation 2 games, and Playstation 1 games From the disk reader.
-The ability to use USB devices and connect them directly to the PS3 for file transfers or any other type of communication. And all this is done with ease, just like a computer, you just plug and play. As for example, plug in a I-pod and tranfer music files, video files, to and from the PS3.
-Almost no limit on reso on videos. If you wanted you could put a full resolution HD movie at 1080p (1920x1080 progressive) on the PS3's hard drive, or through one of its various memory card readers. So you can watch full reso-movies any time you like, basically wherever you like.
-Almost no restriction on multimedia. If you want mpeg1, go for it, if you want Mp4 go for it, mpeg, yup.
-The PS3 Has HDMI output, for full HD resolution for your LCD, or Plasma TVs. It also can have Coax out, and S-video out.
-The PS3 lets you choose what resolution your games are put out on. 480p, 480i, 720p, 1080i, 1080p.
-Not only does the bottom line PS3 come with a 20 Gig harddrive, but it has the option to addon whatever third party hard Drive you want, It doesnt have to be from Sony. And it can be of any size.
-A bunch of card readers. Memory Stick, SD and Compact Flash cards. And the ability to go through directories on them, just like a computer. So if you have music somewhere on a USB flash device, well, go into its directories and find it!
-Wireless bluetooth technology. Which you can use various things to interact with it. Like headsets, and of course the PS3 controllers will be bluetooth. AND can have up to 7 controllers at once on the same system. There has been cases of Blackberries communicating via bluetooth with the PS3.
- On top of the PS3 controllers being bluetooth, they also have whats called SIXAXIS. SIXAXIS features tilt technology that works with six-axis of freedom (roll, pitch, yaw, X, Y, Z). This means that it'll recognize any angle the controller is situated in, allowing you full 3D control over the orientation of an onscreen object. The first game shown utilizing this technology was Warhawk -- where rather than using the analog sticks to fly the ship, its yaw and pitch were controlled by simply tilting the controller. And all of this on bluetooth has 30 hours of pure gameplay before it dies. And if it does, well simple, just plug it in with USB and your ready to go again.
-The PlayStation 3 features a gigabit Ethernet port, and the 60GB version will also have 802.11b/g wireless functionality.
-Cross Media Bar (XMB) as seen on the PSP. Which in my opinion, is a really cool layout.
-Complete online interfaces, Browser, PS# online gaming, PS store, and much more.
-Motherboard/processor: 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1 PPE and 7 SPEs (It has 8 Processors in paralell. Your average home computer only has one processor)
-Has Wi-fi, bluetooth, and Other wireless connectivity options.
-With bluetooth controllers, you can use 7 of them at once on the PS3.
Ok, now lets consider the Blu-Ray player.
Blu-ray: The real price
Lets just put it this way. If you want to get a good blue ray player in the near future you may be suprised. A good Blue ray player has been seen in prices up to $1000 +.(Confirmed HERE at $1,300)
Now considering the PS3 has one built in, and with the PS3 other capabilities itself..its actually a dam good deal. Your already saving 400$, and not to mention you will have a gaming system with tons of other features.
Id say the PS3 for what it has, is priced at an excellent deal..and others who are into technology will see this as well.
So as you can see, the Blu Ray player alone costs roughly 1000$, and the PS3 is only 599$ And even at this point in time the lowest costing BLu Ray player is about 799$..And not to mention the Ps3 incluces all the things it does. And even with that its priced 100$ below a cheap Blu Ray player.
Pretty dam good deal if you ask me. They are actually charging less, the PS3 games will be at roughly the same price of a single Blu Ray disk, which will cost (as like in a movie) at about 89$. So if you think the Ps3 games are expensive..just wait until you want to buy a Blu Ray movie..it will cost you the same exact price.
Now for normal times, like today, your standard game is about 50$ for a DVD. While standard DVD movies run at about 20$. So for movies its usually cheaper. Well, the PS3 games match the price for a Blu Ray movie...thats as if your PS2, Xbox etc games, brand spanking new, only would cost you 20$!!!
You see, the PS3 if far from a rip off..in fact you should be paying more than double of its retail cost to be accurate on its specications.
Overall
Ok, all of this is just icing on the cake, I didnt even begin to scratch the surface of what the PS3 is capable of doing. And not to mention is really a better price that you think. Just as I said above, the Blu-Ray player alone should bump the cost of the PS3 up at least 1500$. But its not, its all the way down to a cheap 599$ and 499$
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Regardless of what they say, the gaming console will be smoked by a "stand alone DVD player."
Blu-Ray is one of the "front runners" of DVD Technology, but NOT guaranteed. I am not a huge fan of Sony, as their tv's are junk and quality control issues are RAMPANT throughout their entire product line.
In closing, $89 for a game, is a RIP OFF. Sorry, but our kids need to start going outside more and playing sports. It seems as this is a "lost art".
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
In closing, $89 for a game, is a RIP OFF. Sorry, but our kids need to start going outside more and playing sports. It seems as this is a "lost art".
yup, that is too much.
karaya, i was given this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dangerous-Book-Boys-Conn-Iggulden/dp/0007232748) as a present for a laugh, but it's really great for kids, especially those that never grew up :D
i've had a lot of fun with it already, it's quite fun.
it's not out in the US yet i think, but it's worth a look ;)
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Blu-Ray and HD DVD are already dead.
HDD based solutions across a home network are alreadyn a superior solution.
We have an MG-35 at home, I'm about to add a second one for the bedroom. They are both networked up to a PC which acts as a server. That PC has a 300Gb HDD of which 200Gb is dedicated to movies, MP3s, home-movies, and photo's.
Now, when my 2 year old son wants to watch one of his dozens of favourite movies (Monsters Inc, Toy Story 1 and 2, Madacasgar, Zathura, Polar Express etc), instead of fumbling around with the discs which inevitably get scratched, lost cases, or in his grubby hands - now she has instant access to them.
Now, when my wife moans at me for not printing out 30 copies of our latest photos which she looks at once or twice then leaves them somewhere to be eaten by my 2 year old son she has instant access to them through the MG-35's.
Now, when I want to watch any of my favourite movies on high resolution widescreen through my projector I have instant access to them :)
Not to mention the easy access we have to our MP3 playlists.
Sorry but DVD is dead.
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no HD DVD
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The HD output for any movies you want to watch with the PS3 has been deliberately crippled. So do not get excited about using this thing as a BluRay DVD player. The output quality is not much better than a regular DVD player.
EDIT: Vulcan, I have looked at the Mediagate products, but have not considered them as they only have PAL/NTSC support. No mention of any type of HD support. Even the MG-350HD only lists PAL/MTSC support.
I find it odd, as it has a DVI port on it. Is it just the documentation lacking or am I missing something?
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What's an MG-35?
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not sure what allot of the above threads mean, i'm computer retarded lol but the demos for the games sure do look sweet :)
hope its not like the xbox360, the graphics on it are good but the gameplay sux, especially sports games like madden, i have both the 360 and the regular and i play the regular one allot more than the 360... and they better not mess with the controlers, right now sony has the best/easiest controller setup there is, i hope they don't get too out there with it like the nintendo wii is.
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Originally posted by Seraphim
What's an MG-35?
Here ya go. (http://www.airlinktek.com/english/prod_mg350.htm)
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The new PS3 controller looks the same as PS2's. The new PS3 controller will eliminate the shock feature in favor of motion-sensing similar to that of Nintendo's Wii.
PS3 release is crazy... check out these prices
http://search.ebay.com/ps3_W0QQfromZR8QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd
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Yeah the HD output didn't worry me too much to be honest skuzzy. All my stuff is composite/Svideo/component/xvga - and I'm not planning on any HD devices in the next year or so. But the HD guys seem to be keen on this competitor to the MG-350 http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/HDM5000U.aspx
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The Sixaxis (sic) motion sensor is a gimmick compared to the Wii's controller, which is the real thing.
Whether it's a Good Thing has yet to be determined.
Anyway, some background (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing) to this thread.
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Originally posted by Dinger
The Sixaxis (sic) motion sensor is a gimmick compared to the Wii's controller, which is the real thing.
Whether it's a Good Thing has yet to be determined.
Anyway, some background (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing) to this thread.
Yep, it's downright gimmick! That's the same technology used on aftermarket Playstation 1 controllers back in the mid-1990s.
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Originally posted by 1K3
The new PS3 controller looks the same as PS2's. The new PS3 controller will eliminate the shock feature in favor of motion-sensing similar to that of Nintendo's Wii.
PS3 release is crazy... check out these prices
http://search.ebay.com/ps3_W0QQfromZR8QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd
The motion capable controllers of the PS3 are not similiar to that of the Wii and most game developers have labeled it more of a gimmick than useful, unlike the Wii controllers.
In addition, when the project manager states that going with the Blue-Ray was a mistake, it says a lot. And the lack of launch titles is another thing that is going to hinder the PS3, where as the Wii will have a large assortment of 3rd party launch titles as well as bundled 1st party launch titles.
Sure the PS3 will sell because of the reputation Sony has built from the PS One and PS2 but it's not going to be the seller they envision it to be. At the suggested price point, it's just too expensive for the average consumer that the previous Sony consoles had targeted.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Yeah the HD output didn't worry me too much to be honest skuzzy. All my stuff is composite/Svideo/component/xvga - and I'm not planning on any HD devices in the next year or so. But the HD guys seem to be keen on this competitor to the MG-350 http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/HDM5000U.aspx
No HDCP/DRM support, so it cannot play back HD content from an HD recorded movie.
Before I invest in something like this, I just want it to have either an upgrade path or native support for HD content. For the long haul these devices are pretty useless if you want HD content, which is where everything is heading.
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After reading about this, I have to wonder...
...What the hell is wrong with Sony? $89 games, hindered Blu-Ray playback resolution for movies, and a gimmicky controller over something that's actually functional?
I was looking forward to this console, hoping that it would be everything they said it would be. It seems that my hopes are dashed, so I guess I'll be going for a Wii instead.
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Originally posted by Fruda
After reading about this, I have to wonder...
...What the hell is wrong with Sony? $89 games, hindered Blu-Ray playback resolution for movies, and a gimmicky controller over something that's actually functional?
I was looking forward to this console, hoping that it would be everything they said it would be. It seems that my hopes are dashed, so I guess I'll be going for a Wii instead.
I hear the Wii makes the noise of its name when you throw it out the window.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
I hear the Wii makes the noise of its name when you throw it out the window.
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Sounds like the PS3 will go the way of that other console, NeoGeo. Pricing themselves out of the market in an attempt at attracting the elitists of console gaming.
I wonder just who the marketing genius is who thought that a $90 per game pricepoint would help sell more consoles, probably the same one from the NeoGeo marketing department who thought that a $200 per game pricepoint was open for exploitation. :lol
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Sony will sell every singe PS3 they make. That's my prediction anyways.
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Originally posted by 1K3
The new PS3 controller looks the same as PS2's. The new PS3 controller will eliminate the shock feature in favor of motion-sensing similar to that of Nintendo's Wii.
PS3 release is crazy... check out these prices
http://search.ebay.com/ps3_W0QQfromZR8QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd
:O
I am an IDIOT!
I would have stood outside for three days to buy a few of these things if I knew I could make THAT sorta money!!!
Never thought of it!
Sure are some spoiled kids out there!
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Already being reported here in Japan that there's a bug; about 200 PS2 games won't run on it currently.
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Buy It Now - $1,906.68
Shipping - $171.58
zOMFG!1!!!!!1!!
If I paid that much the shipping better say, "free".
:furious
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/david_woodersonSMALL.jpg)
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Sorry, I cannot rationalize throwing down 600 bucks for an entertainment system. I own ONE HDTV and could really, REALLY care less about visual quality of HD DVD and Blu-Ray. Rationalizing the pricing of games in the 90 buck area is also non-existent.
What can I rationalize? $400 for a 360. Comes with more reasonable features ($200 add-on for HD-DVD (seperate), vibrating wireless controllers, component cables, headset, X-Box live subby). The games that are out for have won accolades and Microsoft has gotten their software down pat. Gears of War, Oblivion, Project Gotham Gaming, the inevitable Halo 3?
A bunch of great Xbox games are already at 40 bucks.
Oh and rumor on the street: Gran Turismo HD will come severely crippled. You will have to BUY courses and cars as the basic game itself is just the game engine and a smidgen of cars and tracks.
While technophiles and 'hard-core elitists' will most likely taught the PS3 as the best, ultimately the pricing and reasonable usage of said console will make it a failure.
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Ooo, eBay preorder goodness! Too bad some of these folks didn't blur out some crutial information.
Looks like there will be some folks unhappy come tomorrow afternoon. *evil grin*
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Folks, let's face it. Sony has sucked ince the early 90's and it won't stop before the current management will retire if even then.
Did everyone already forget how they illegally installed rootkit spyware to your computers? How they sold exploding laptop batteries and denied responsibility? How their customer service sucks?
Don't buy Sony.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Here ya go. (http://www.airlinktek.com/english/prod_mg350.htm)
It looks very similar to the Freecom Mediaplayer ive been looking at.
http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=2637&CatID=&sCatID=
Is the quality of the output from a ripped DVD as good as if you see it directly from a normal DVD player?
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Kinda off topic but similar....you guys see this past SouthPark episode? Where Cartman is sooo anxious for the Nintendo Wii that he freezes himself and, just like Buck Rogers, something happens and he doesnt wake up until the year 2543? Great Buck Rogers spoof!
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
The HD output for any movies you want to watch with the PS3 has been deliberately crippled. So do not get excited about using this thing as a BluRay DVD player. The output quality is not much better than a regular DVD player.
How do you know:noid
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Folks, let's face it. Sony has sucked ince the early 90's and it won't stop before the current management will retire if even then.
Did everyone already forget how they illegally installed rootkit spyware to your computers? How they sold exploding laptop batteries and denied responsibility? How their customer service sucks?
Don't buy Sony.
Has Sony become a victim of its own success... just like Mercedes Benz?:noid
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Originally posted by 1K3
Has Sony become a victim of its own success... just like Mercedes Benz?:noid
Well I own two Mercedeses but boycot Sony. That should tell something.
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Originally posted by 1K3
How do you know:noid
There have already been reviews of it comparing it against the Toshiba HD-DVD player.
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I need this thing..
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more of everything that actually means nothing...
boys and there toys really...
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Now, when my 2 year old son wants to watch one of his dozens of favourite movies (Monsters Inc, Toy Story 1 and 2, Madacasgar, Zathura, Polar Express etc), instead of fumbling around with the discs which inevitably get scratched, lost cases, or in his grubby hands - now she has instant access to them.
Sorry Vulcan, I couldn't resist pointing this out :p
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The only thing good about the Blu Ray in this case is the amount of storage per disc. 25GB single layer/50GB Dual Layer. If the PS3 is a monster with horsepower, bet that the games (and other crap) are gonna use every bit of space they have available.
I won't buy one for the Blu Ray anyways - I like the games :)
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See Rule #7
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Originally posted by 1K3
How do you know:noid
For the same reason PS2 was supposed to be "a great DVD/Gaming combo" and wasn't. You CANNOT have both, one or the other. But, Sony can print ANYTHING they want the public to "believe".
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Originally posted by Rolex
Already being reported here in Japan that there's a bug; about 200 PS2 games won't run on it currently.
Yep, backward compatibility issues that prevent the majority of PS2 titles to play without sound. Sony has already announced that at some future date they will put out an update but until the meantime, a Sony PR guru said that most players actually like to play their games without sound so which sounds like it's not a priority fix issue.
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I will not buy a PS3 because
A. I don't have $500
B. I don't play consel games
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C. The commercials for it are creepy and gave me nightmares
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Now, when my 2 year old son wants to watch one of his dozens of favourite movies (Monsters Inc, Toy Story 1 and 2, Madacasgar, Zathura, Polar Express etc), instead of fumbling around with the discs which inevitably get scratched, lost cases, or in his grubby hands - now she has instant access to them.[/B]
Yeah, I had to. It's bed time. :D