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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lukster on November 14, 2006, 08:46:45 AM
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This will be an interesting test case. The local government stopped short of cracking down on employers of illegal immigrants but enacted enough to push the envelope. It will be very interesting to see where the federal courts stand should they become involved. I suspect there will be much national effort to negate this cities attempt to control illegal immigration without actually addressing the laws involved.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229257,00.html
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I wrote to finestien here in kalifornia about mandatory sentances for those who hire illegal aliens..
she said that craking down on the employers was a bad idea because it has been shown that juries will not convict employers who hire "undocumented immigrants"
She seems to think that the sympathies of the people lie with the illegals and the people who hire them.
I think that you are on to something... no national or state politician is gonna anger the illegals and the employers... it has to be grass roots.
perhaps if we all turned in illegals all the time it would get some attention.
lazs
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I'm sure they would prefer armed checkpoints at the city limits, too.
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Originally posted by rpm
I'm sure they would prefer armed checkpoints at the city limits, too.
I think all they really want is for their small city (really just an extension of Dallas) to not become part of Mexico. I have nothing against Mexicans or hispanics that want to live in the US legally so long as they are willing to assimilate.
If your home were taken over by those unwilling to learn your language or adopt your customs would you simply give it away without response? Perhaps you feel you should be the one assimilated into the culture of those who come here illegally?
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Farmers Branch has been run by nutjobs for years. They are not making some grand statement, they are just a bunch of nutjobs looking for attention.
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Since when does the Constitution apply to non Americans?
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Though I've lived not far from Farmer's Branch probably much longer than you rpm I can't answer the nut job comment, you may be right. That does not change the fact many cities in the US have been illegally invaded by our neighbors to the south not only imposing their language and culture upon us but also adding significantly to the burden on our social structure. If Farmers Branch is successful in their efforts I suspect many more will follow suit.
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I was in a store the other day. There was an hispanic clerk at the counter. A lady walked in with her 2 children and walked up and began speaking Spanish. The clerk said "no habla espanol". The woman became indignant and said in perfect English "No one speaks Spanish here?". The clerk politely said no, and immediately the lady began transacting her business in English.
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I've spent over 7 years in foreign countries. I learned some of the languages and never expected anyone to speak english. Growing up in Texas I've been around Mexicans most of my life, I'm not foreignerphobic. I believe that if the people coming here illegally were willing to blend into our cluture most of us would be willing to let them. It seems that as their numbers grow they are becoming militant in demanding that we adapt to them.
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Originally posted by lukster
Though I've lived not far from Farmer's Branch probably much longer than you rpm I can't answer the nut job comment, you may be right.
I've lived here over 40 years. You?
Say, can you find a place to get a tire fixed in Farmer's Branch? When ya do let me know.
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It's not just mexicans, although they are the ones that cause the most problems. I think we should just make mexico another state as it's obvious their government is less than capable. They arrest folks who cross their southern border and yet tell us to let their people cross unhindered.
Illegals have no rights under our constitution....... we should not allow them in hospitals or schools.
When I lived in South America... legally, my parents had to pay $2000.00 each for me and my brother to go to an english school.
Here in Texas some illegals walked out of class... lowered the US flag and raised the mexican flag at the school....
Arm yourselves we are being invaded!
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Originally posted by rpm
I've lived here over 40 years. You?
Say, can you find a place to get a tire fixed in Farmer's Branch? When ya do let me know.
Born in Dallas in 1954. Lived near except for 20 years in AF.
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Then you should know that tire repair shops were banned by the same city council in the late 80's. They were nutbags then, they're still nutbags today.
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Jeeze RPM
I am sitting in FB right now at work. I can walk out the front door and throw a rock at an NTW place. Farmers Branch has no more of its share of nutbags in gumbamint than Addison or Carrollton.
On this issue, even if it is attention potato time, it is an issue that needs to be addressed sooner than later.
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Maybe they finally repealed that ordinance. You used to have to drive to Carrollton to get a flat fixed. Tire repair shops were considered "unsightly".
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Originally posted by rpm
Maybe they finally repealed that ordinance. You used to have to drive to Carrollton to get a flat fixed. Tire repair shops were considered "unsightly".
Indeed some of them are very unsightly. Plenty of 'em Dallas with old tires stacked high in piles all over their property.
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I support FB on this issue
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I've been in farmers branch recently, and a section of it is turning into no-kidding mexico-north. The walmart there is totally trashed, and nobody speaks english. Finding a store employee that speaks english is a minor miracle. If they were well behaved, then no biggie but the customers at that store are mostly Mexican and they've literally trashed the inside of the store. Piles of merchandise taken from the shelves and discarded on the floor at the checkout lines, etc.
I'm 100% with farmers branch on this. Heck, I'm with anyone who has any solution, no matter how whacky, to stop illegal immigration. Almost my entire life, I've been negatively affected by illegal immigrants and the problems they have brought into the US. From overwhelming hospitals, to car theft, to sucking dry public services and overwhelming public transportation, to demanding special priveledges that no other immigrant community demands (dual language government services comes to mind... what other immgrant community has EVER demanded that the US govt provide all services in any language other than English?) they're poor neighbors and even worse invaders.
The ones who come into the US legally are just fine in my book, because they're becoming citizens. The rest are nothing short of an invasion of conquest. How would the world see it if US citizens flooded any other country illegally, set up camp in their hospitals, and demanded that everyone in sight start speaking english and providing them with free stuff? No country in the world would put up with that.
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:rofl I've been to that Walmart
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:aok Farmers Branch
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there is a huge reason that mexico is like it is; and the southern us along with some limited northern areas are like they are.
It is not legal immigration causing the problem.
Just an fyi, we fired two sub contractors on our job for using illegal immigrants. We also notifed federal authorities to the breaches. Nothing was done to my knowledge by the feds.
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It all goes back to my main gripe, stop employing these people and prosecute the employers who are, why is this never being done?
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Originally posted by Hawco
It all goes back to my main gripe, stop employing these people and prosecute the employers who are, why is this never being done?
Taxes. Those businesses that illegally employ illegals pay the bills.
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Originally posted by lukster
Taxes. Those businesses that illegally employ illegals pay the bills.
I hope your wrong there, but somehow I think your right, it's a disgrace, these businesses should be prosecuted, why are the Senators and congressmen not standing up and clamping down on this?
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Originally posted by Hawco
I hope your wrong there, but somehow I think your right, it's a disgrace, these businesses should be prosecuted, why are the Senators and congressmen not standing up and clamping down on this?
They dont want to lose the Hispanic vote.
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Originally posted by Slash27
They dont want to lose the Hispanic vote.
word.
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Originally posted by Hawco
I hope your wrong there, but somehow I think your right, it's a disgrace, these businesses should be prosecuted, why are the Senators and congressmen not standing up and clamping down on this?
The Senators and Congressmen don't have to do a thing on this, they did all that in 1986.
The INS are the ones that have chosen not to prosecute for some strange reason.
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
The Senators and Congressmen don't have to do a thing on this, they did all that in 1986.
The INS are the ones that have chosen not to prosecute for some strange reason.
shamus
Yep. Heck the INS were the root cause of the "DC Sniper" case.
For the "naysayers":
Lee Boyd Malvo (alias John Lee Malvo, the teenager) and his mother (Una James) were apprehended near Seattle by the Border Patrol in January of 2002.
Malvo and his mother were smuggled into the US aboard a ship late in 2000. James worked in Naples, FL. But the teenager Malvo moved onto Washington State to join up with John Muhammad, whom they both met in Antigua (prior to being smuggled in).
Dec. 2001, Una then moved to Washington. She ask police to find her son, who she suspected wa sunder the influence of Muhammad. Soon after the cops picked up Malvo, they realized they were both "illegal aliens". They were turned over to the Border Patrol, where the agents did the paperwork to have the mother and son deported.
Enter a moron named Blake Brown, an Seattle INS official. He did not want them deported. He ordered the BP to change the pair's status "so they could stay in the US, pending an immediate hearing". The BP refused, so Brown took the unilateral steps and changed the designation HIMSELF, potentially violating the Immigration Reform Act. Malvo and his mother were released into the wind.
In doing so Malvo confessed to over 12 murders.
The INS is a joke.
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I didnt know so many AH'ers live so close to me Im in Carrollton. Any of yall like to meet up sum time? I could use some good tip's on flying? I live right off of Peters Colony and Standbridge by the school here Please let me know by PM if yall want to get togather?:aok :noid