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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazaa on November 14, 2006, 11:09:38 AM
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Be a mate and perk the La7 and Spit 16 in the LWAs, I know your a man that likes to keep the game healthy, I think this would be nice for gameplay.
Now thats out of the way, can you change the setup back to 1 LWA please...
Kaz
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Be a mate and perk the La7 and Spit 16 in the LWAs, it has been a long time comming.
Now thats out of the way, can you change the setup back to 1 LWA please...
Kaz
wel, with the LW's now, they don't need to be perked. i can see it in the old MA, but not now. the lgay and spit16 are annoying, but not perkworthy i think.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
wel, with the LW's now, they don't need to be perked. i can see it in the old MA, but not now. the lgay and spit16 are annoying, but not perkworthy i think.
Pooface you got to disagree with me on everything mate, even in the LW arenas these things are all you see.
Light perk, be done with it. Or at least try it and see what EVERYONE thinks, even you cannot disagree with that!
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Pooface you got to disagree with me on everything mate, even in the LW arenas these things are all you see.
Light perk, be done with it. Or at least try it and see what EVERYONE thinks, even you cannot disagree with that!
:D
think about it though mate, they just get used a lot. they aren't that uber, and if they're perked, the guys that fly them will only move to the next easy mode, ultra speed, cannon armed plane.
it's easier just to leave it :)
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Be a mate and perk the La7 and Spit 16 in the LWAs, I know your a man that likes to keep the game healthy, I think this would be nice for gameplay.
Now thats out of the way, can you change the setup back to 1 LWA please...
Kaz
I don't know Kazaa, some squads DEPEND on these rides.
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Come on people... there isn't even any bait on that hook. :)
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Originally posted by Geary420
Come on people... there isn't even any bait on that hook. :)
Don't think you were the only one who knew it.
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Originally posted by Geary420
Come on people... there isn't even any bait on that hook. :)
he's not even fishing, he's serious :lol
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
:D
think about it though mate, they just get used a lot. they aren't that uber, and if they're perked, the guys that fly them will only move to the next easy mode, ultra speed, cannon armed plane.
it's easier just to leave it :)
Now your just talking BS mate, those 2 planes are so uber it's not funny.
Don't even reply to my post if you don't have a clue wtf you are going on about. :aok
And yes I'm being serious here lads!
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Pooface, the reason why they "just get used a lot" is because they are the best planes in the game lol
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rule #99 - No board member may post suggestions on changing the game unless they have at least a minimum of 1000 posts on the bb's and 25,000 hours of flight time in the sim...
:D
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Those planes serve a purpose...................... ...............
I just don't know what it is yet??:rolleyes:
(Oh and could somebody pull this treble hook from my lip:lol ):t
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I spend nearly all my time in the MW. However, sometimes late at night I will go into the LW when theres 90-140 people in there......then it can be fun...... but there are always these damned LA7s and Spit16s dweebing around, gets real tiring for anyone who wants to do something BESIDES play the game in a LA7 or Spit16. I would say a major annoyance and definately perk the damned things.
Perk the Hurrc2 in the MW while your at it. Plane is far more of a factor than it deserves to be.
JMO
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Pooface, the reason why they "just get used a lot" is because they are the best planes in the game lol
Then I must be teh 3Lee7 Pilelot cause I kill enough of them.
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Originally posted by Yeager
but there are always these damned LA7s and Spit16s dweebing around, gets real tiring for anyone who wants to do something BESIDES play the game in a LA7 or Spit16. I would say a major annoyance and definately perk the damned things.
Perk the Hurrc2 in the MW while your at it. Plane is far more of a factor than it deserves to be.
JMO
I SOOOOO don't get this. Are you pissed becaused the "dweebs" are killing you in their uber planes? If so, is there a reason you can't fly the same dweeb plane and kick their arse if you want? Are there so many of them that you can't find airspace to fly in?
Let's just perk all the planes better than the Val, so that the people with 2348882371 perk points can fly what they want, and those of us that are just learning and trying to have fun can fly balloons until we're tired of it, and move on to some other game.
I try all kinds of planes, and like most of them from time to time. But like it or not, the spit16 gives me at least somewhat of a chance against better sticks until I develop my ACM a bit (lot) more. So when it gets busy and I go furballing (instead of working with a team to capture or something... yes I enjoy both).. I'll usually up a spit16 if available. Besides that, I like the plane. Period.
Just another typical post of late ... "HT...Please oh please change things so that me and my group of friends that have been flying for 15 years can play how we want and fly what we want without all these new players and people that don't play the way do getting in our way"
Screw that. HT spends my $15 the same as yours.
OK.. I'm done... sorry. It just gets old.
Feel kinda like John Belushi in Animal House after breaking the guitar now :)
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I don't know Kazaa, some squads DEPEND on these rides.
And some people too :D
La-7 30 7
Spitfire Mk VIII 21 3 (k not a 16, but . . .)
Ship Gunner 16 0
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Originally posted by Yeager
I spend nearly all my time in the MW. However, sometimes late at night I will go into the LW when theres 90-140 people in there......then it can be fun...... but there are always these damned LA7s and Spit16s dweebing around, gets real tiring for anyone who wants to do something BESIDES play the game in a LA7 or Spit16. I would say a major annoyance and definately perk the damned things.
Perk the Hurrc2 in the MW while your at it. Plane is far more of a factor than it deserves to be.
JMO
lets perk the lalas and the spit. then what will the next uber ride be??? okay now lets perk that plane. and then the next uber ride will be?? lets perk that one now. its endless and pointless.
every arena will always have its fastest , most powerful ride. get used to it.
your pal,
Boner
public relations officer for Boner
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Darn youngis!
How many times do you need to hear it? Its not the plane, its the pilot!
This tour I've flown in LW more than ever, and I've found it embarrassingly easy to rack up kills with energy fighting. And yes, that includes XVIs and LaLas. Most of the pilots I've seen have worse SA than I do..and thats saying something! When they spot me, they do the WRONG thing pretty consistantly -- like trying to evade by pulling up even thought I have more E. I've had more no-deflection 200 kills in the last week than I can remember. I've outrun La7s and P51s (only when necessary!) in tiffies and doras because the chasers dont know how to conserve their E in the chase.
The Spit XVI is a 1943 plane. If its so uber, why'd they ever change it? Dont play your enemies way, play the way that beats their way!
There is absolutely NO reason to perk those planes. I like killing them!
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Originally posted by Simaril
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There is absolutely NO reason to perk those planes. I like killing them! [/B]
And we enjoy being killed by you Sim... errr.. not really.. but....
:lol
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Now your just talking BS mate, those 2 planes are so uber it's not funny.
Don't even reply to my post if you don't have a clue wtf you are going on about. :aok
And yes I'm being serious here lads!
ok, well, first off, i do know what i'm talking about, seems i do more than you do. secondly, no need to be rude...
the la7 and spit16 are uber, but they aren't going to be perked kazaa. they weren't perked by HT before the changes, so why should they be now?
the LW, contrary to what you want, is not the old MA, it is a late war arena. why should late war planes be perked in their own arena? the current perk settings and perk values are just fine.
just kill the guys. they may be pretty powerful planes, but sually they're easier to kill than any other plane, seeing as most of the guys that fly them are skilless tards.
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Originally posted by calan
And we enjoy being killed by you Sim... errr.. not really.. but....
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:lol :lol
Most of the guys I end up getting have CPID's I dont recognise, probably because they're new. I'd consider myself a journeyman (as in "past an apprentice but far, far, far from a master carpenter"!); guys who have basic SA and a couple evasion tactics get away from me. When I feel like an adrenaline fight, I'll chase them down....but since the skies are so full of unaware targets, I've just let the competent go and enjoyed blowing up the easy ones lately!
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What are you 16 Biggles ? I have a lot of respect for your piloting skills mate, but when you open your mouth it's a different story.
Deap down you know I'm right, and for those people who say "if you perk those 2 planes, then you will have to perk all the other below it blah blah blah" what a load of crap, if these 2 planes are perked then we will have a lot more BALANCE in the LWA then we have now, that's why the perk system is there mate.
I'm not going to go on about this because I have the up most respect for the guys who made this game, but the fact of the matter is, perking the La7 has been a long time comming, and the Spit 16 should follow suit.
P.S: A trial for a week or two would be a great idea. Is that so much to ask daniel son ?
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In this case I have to side with Biggles -
Perk the La7 and the XVI and everyone floods to the next pair of planes (in the case of the XVI they'd goto the VIII), then it's perk them also.
Then the next pair get perked also, eventually it will be .45s at 10 paces :) .
What is needed is a more consistent perking policy, current one seems like a mish-mash, and some maybe even hold ons from when they were 1st introduced many many moons ago
Same goes for ENY values, some are just plain crazy.
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Originally posted by Kazaa
What are you 16 Biggles ? I have a lot of respect for your piloting skills mate, but when you open your mouth it's a different story.
Deap down you know I'm right, and for those people who say "if you perk those 2 planes, then you will have to perk all the other below it blah blah blah" what a load of crap, if these 2 planes are perked then we will have a lot more BALANCE in the LWA then we have now, that's why the perk system is there mate.
I'm not going to go on about this because I have the up most respect for the guys who made this game, but the fact of the matter is, perking the La7 has been a long time comming, and the Spit 16 should follow suit.
P.S: A trial for a week or two would be a great idea. Is that so much to ask daniel son ?
you're just coming across a bit rude mate. you seem to have come back a little cocky. i'm not trying to be an arse, you're just acting odd.
and actually, i'm approaching 18 ;)
i'm sure HT has thought it over plenty, and he knows what is best. leave it as it is :)
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Originally posted by Kev367th
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Then the next pair get perked also, eventually it will be .45s at 10 paces :) ...
Whaddya mean BACK to? You mean Ive been taking on 110 with my pistol for no Reason! :O :O :O AW MAN!
Anyway, I have to side with the Dont perk team here. I just dont see the point in it, It will just cause a flood down to the next uber plane. If you dont like it, go and fly in the MW or EW. Just as much fun (If there's people in there) and I personally find nothing better than shooting down a Spit 9 with Spit 1! Brilliant fun! I just wish I had Channel 200 turned on to hear their reactions :t
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Not that i dont disagree in a way.. i mean a cheap perk cost for the lala would make the game more interesting imo its just that this subject has been talked about over and over again since i started playing its almost useless to make the suggestion nowadays.. just do a search and u can find many of HT's responses and they're all "!!NO!!" .. :D
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Tweeb spam the forums with QUAH! again! That was l337!
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Originally posted by Yeager
Perk the Hurrc2 in the MW while your at it. Plane is far more of a factor than it deserves to be.
JMO
how about tweak it's performance on the IIc so it performs like the ground attack platform that it was. the thing is just not modelled very faithfully. having said that they die easily enough if you hit the tail surfaces or the henpit.
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Originally posted by Stang
Tweeb spam the forums with QUAH! again! That was l337!
lol last time i did that skuzzy deleted ALL my l337 posts.. exactly 1337 of them lol. Hence the 138 post i have now.. That part of my sig is true :aok ..
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Hey, you know if they have the Spit XIV and F4U-4 perkified, then there's no reason NOT to have the Lgay-7 and Spixteen unperked. I'd rather haven the only perked rides really superior ones like the Tempey, 262 and Komet, but if things like the C-Hog, Spit XIV and -4 hog are perked...
Then the Spit XVI and LA-7 are in the same category as those, easily.
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Originally posted by storch
how about tweak it's performance on the IIc so it performs like the ground attack platform that it was. the thing is just not modelled very faithfully.
Heh...
You have to admit it's amusing the superiority that the Hurri IIC shows when it's perched up above repeatedly zooming down for a pick and then the hasty return. I wondered why the plane wasn't this dominating in the real war...
Gets painfully old to have a IIC drop down on my Jug at 500kts, ping and kill it with lazers, then go back up to hover for the next victim...
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Originally posted by Warspawn
Hey, you know if they have the Spit XIV and F4U-4 perkified, then there's no reason NOT to have the Lgay-7 and Spixteen unperked. I'd rather haven the only perked rides really superior ones like the Tempey, 262 and Komet, but if things like the C-Hog, Spit XIV and -4 hog are perked...
Then the Spit XVI and LA-7 are in the same category as those, easily.
You do realise the XVI is not some later/greater version of the Griffon engined XIV, but is in fact a Merlin 266 (US built Merlin 66) engined LF IXe.
Also that the only difference between a 1943 LF IX and a 1944 XVI is the .50cals?
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Originally posted by Warspawn
Heh...
You have to admit it's amusing the superiority that the Hurri IIC shows when it's perched up above repeatedly zooming down for a pick and then the hasty return. I wondered why the plane wasn't this dominating in the real war...
Gets painfully old to have a IIC drop down on my Jug at 500kts, ping and kill it with lazers, then go back up to hover for the next victim...
ya thats always a hoot, being picked by a chubbywinged attack platform that zooms like an angel with it's bellybutton on fire. :D
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You realise the Hurri IIc has a Merlin XX motor in it that produces its highest power (1175HP) at 20k?
Not saying this makes the FM right, just pointing it out.
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No spit XIV or LA7 in LW ?
Will be like a Chinese restaurant without Chinese food !
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Come on Kazaa. Your entitled to your opinion and so is Biggles.
The Late war arena is lucky to have the earlier planes re-enabled at all.
In my eyes it wouldnt have a perk or ENY issue at all if the older, less uber planes werent in the planeset there.
HT has enabled them all and upped the Caps to satisfy the griefers.
Personally I would prefer everything but the 262, 163 and Temp perked all the others No.
Bruv
~S~
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Back in the old MA, I could knock down a La here and there with a Yak9u. Yak just doesn't have the ammo, extra cannons, and not quite the speed of an La, but it's about as manuverable.
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Originally posted by straffo
No spit XIV or LA7 in LW ?
Will be like a Chinese restaurant without Chinese food !
lol I'm done with this subject, all I wanted was to share my views with the people I love, that includes everyone that posted here.
Originally posted by Kev367th
In this case I have to side with Biggles -
Perk the La7 and the XVI and everyone floods to the next pair of planes (in the case of the XVI they'd goto the VIII), then it's perk them also.
When you say "everyone floods to the next pair of planes" I don't think there would another pair as uber as those 2. La5, Yak, 190K4 are all good planes similar to the La7, but all have their down sides. Spit 9, Spit 8, Ki84, N1K1 would be a nice line up to choose from.
At the end of the day lads, How many more times do we have to helplessly run down La7s or have a Spit16 roll and turn out of the shot in a blink of an eye ?
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Originally posted by calan
But like it or not, the spit16 gives me at least somewhat of a chance against better sticks until I develop my ACM a bit (lot) more.
This is exactly what the Spit16 (and other similarly superior planes) should be used for - to give new folks, or people who can't devote much time to the game, a handicap that lets them compete with more experienced players. The problem is that some people refuse to outgrow the airplane.
I wonder if there is an easy way to give new players a constant supply of perk points until they reach some specified accumulation of hours, at which point the supply diminishes and finally disappears? Not that it would do anything to make the experienced people act responsibly, but perhaps it would be a benefit to new users.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
This is exactly what the Spit16 (and other similarly superior planes) should be used for - to give new folks, or people who can't devote much time to the game, a handicap that lets them compete with more experienced players. The problem is that some people refuse to outgrow the airplane
- oldman
that's exactly right. the spits, woobiecaneIIc and the La7s should be there as a handicap. there is a steep learning curve in this game and it is very frustrating for us noobs. if however you are three years into this game and you are still in spits and La7s why, you are merely an intardnet equivalent of W.I.C. food stamp user. wash up, go out, find yourself a real cartoon plane you lazy bum.
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LOL Storch...
Well ... I don't think telling someone they can't fly a nice plane because they are a good pilot is fair either. There has to be a happy median somehow.
I can fly a few planes "ok"... but I just really like flying the Spit16.. mostly for it's cockpit, Rcl and RoR. After that it's the Niki, P-51B, Zeke (If I'm in the mood to flutter about), and maybe the 110 or one of the 109's (although their stall still kicks my arse).
If I get decent at this game, I'll probably be pissed if someone tells me I can no longer fly the 16 cause I'm too good. :lol
Wonder what would have happened if Richtofen or Johnson had of been denied certain "dweeb" rides because they were too good?
:eek:
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Originally posted by Oldman731
This is exactly what the Spit16 (and other similarly superior planes) should be used for - to give new folks, or people who can't devote much time to the game, a handicap that lets them compete with more experienced players.
- oldman
Kind of supports the view of the current perk system being completely backwards. People who don't "need" a perked plane (assuming they were perked correctly for the sake of argument) can afford 1234532 of them. Those that "need" them as a handicap can't. :confused:
I don't really care as much as it may seem, but it is interesting. I actually have enough to perk points now (from sheer luck and finding a few people worse than me to pick on) to buy a few rides, but I still haven't. (Probably would if they perked my 16 though :lol ).
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Originally posted by storch
that's exactly right. the spits, woobiecaneIIc and the La7s should be there as a handicap. there is a steep learning curve in this game and it is very frustrating for us noobs. if however you are three years into this game and you are still in spits and La7s why, you are merely an intardnet equivalent of W.I.C. food stamp user. wash up, go out, find yourself a real cartoon plane you lazy bum.
Storch no offence but STFU. So sorry if all people are not leather panty wearing sicophants. People fly what they like and have an interest in for the most part.
Storch really don't understand why you get like this. The few time I have flown against you didn't have this attitude.
I'll say it again, if you don't want to see La7s or XVI go fly EW or MW.
This is another benefit of splitting the arenas up.
All of you that scream perk x plane want is... tool around in your ac of choice unmolested by a faster or more agile ac.
And before any say anything I fly just about everything (not well mind you but I try).
Bronk
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Originally posted by calan
LOL Storch...
Well ... I don't think telling someone they can't fly a nice plane because they are a good pilot is fair either. There has to be a happy median somehow.
I can fly a few planes "ok"... but I just really like flying the Spit16.. mostly for it's cockpit, Rcl and RoR. After that it's the Niki, P-51B, Zeke (If I'm in the mood to flutter about), and maybe the 110 or one of the 109's (although their stall still kicks my arse).
If I get decent at this game, I'll probably be pissed if someone tells me I can no longer fly the 16 cause I'm too good. :lol
Wonder what would have happened if Richtofen or Johnson had of been denied certain "dweeb" rides because they were too good?
:eek:
Calan jump in a 109f you will think you're in a spit (except for the crappy forward view. You won't run from anything but you will have fun in turn fights I guarantee. After you get comfy in that jump to the g2 and so on.
Bronk
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holy smoke the easymoders are up in arms.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Storch no offence but STFU.
I'll say it again, if you don't want to see La7s or XVI go fly EW or MW.
Bronk
He does, he flies in the EW a lot, as do I. Though he's a running, cherry picking alt monkeying 109 pilot in there!
(JK, Storch)
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The LA7 and HurrcII are two of a handfull of planes thrown into the game to attract the masses of bugs to the light.
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Originally posted by storch
how about tweak it's performance on the IIc so it performs like the ground attack platform that it was. the thing is just not modelled very faithfully. having said that they die easily enough if you hit the tail surfaces or the henpit.
While he is in the tweak mode maybe he'll tweak the 110s.
Lord knows if they flew like that during the war the 109s would have been scrapped.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
He does, he flies in the EW a lot, as do I. Though he's a running, cherry picking alt monkeying 109 pilot in there!
(JK, Storch)
CJ the "I'll say it again, if you don't want to see La7s or XVI go fly EW or MW." was aimed at the perk whiners not storch. I should have separated it a bit more from my first comments.
As to his flying style well all i can say is that he and his squad fight well together. I give them credit for that and . I just don't like his superior attitude he flashes whenever he comes across a non Lufft flier.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
While he is in the tweak mode maybe he'll tweak the 110s.
Lord knows if they flew like that during the war the 109s would have been scrapped.
Bronk
I have often stated that if HTC modelling were accurate then the spitfire, 109 and 109 programs would have been cancelled in favor of the 110s and hurricanes :D the 110c is far too uber therefore i seldomly fly it anymore, it's too much like "C" word for my liking.
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Originally posted by Kazaa
When you say "everyone floods to the next pair of planes" I don't think there would another pair as uber as those 2. La5, Yak, 190K4 are all good planes similar to the La7, but all have their down sides. Spit 9, Spit 8, Ki84, N1K1 would be a nice line up to choose from.
I wouldnt leave out the P-51D or FW190-D9
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Originally posted by storch
I have often stated that if HTC modelling were accurate then the spitfire, 109 and 109 programs would have been cancelled in favor of the 110s and hurricanes :D the 110c is far too uber therefore i seldomly fly it anymore, it's too much like "C" word for my liking.
Chog?
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Originally posted by Yknurd
Chog?
no no no not chog the other C word
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Originally posted by storch
no no no not chog the other C word
Yknurd, starts with a C and rhymes with "eating"