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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: The Dalai Lama on September 21, 2001, 03:54:00 PM
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After a few minutes of running AH all game sounds become a high pitched whine, this is soon followed by a complete lockup which requires a reset.
I've tried reducing the DX sound acceleration and switching my RAM from 133 to 100mhz, neither of which make a difference. I have the exact same problem when playing Black & White, all my other games, directx or otherwise, run fine.
I have the very latest BIOS and video drivers, the latest VIA 4in1 drivers and DirectX 8.0a.
Specs:
Win98
1200Mhz Athlon T.bird (not overclocked)
Asus A7V-E mobo
256 PC133 RAM
Creative Labs Geforce2 MX 32mb DDR
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Check cooling...
otherwise I am stumped...
SKurj
Duron 800 @ 1ghz
A7V 133A
gf2 mx 32mb detonator 4's
sblive latest
w98se
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sounds like a cooling thing. but if your cards are fine i'd start by checking bios settings. if you've installed a newer bios(for asus,) they recommend reloading set-up bios parameters then restarting, then reseting bios parameters to particular specs. i'd then check the irq's. with sound cards, i like to put it in first pci slot, then leave next slot open(for dos drivers.) also make sure to assign it an irq. if that's all done and its still giving problems, i'd remove all associated driver registry keys then reinstall cards. do you have dx8 compatable sound card drivers?? what kind of sound card? you listed everything but it<G> try newer drivers for it also--if its onboard sound, http://asus.com (http://asus.com) will have driver upgrades. if you have a sound card, make sure there's no conflict with onboard sound. the improper voltage for cpu could do it too. heh--there are many things it could be. i'd start with software troubleshooting though. it really sounds like a dx or heat related issue. if all else fails, try a different memory chip.
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: whirl ]
[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: whirl ]
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Well my cpu runs at a steady 52 degrees celsius, and my motherboard somewhere around half that. You think it could be a cooling problem with the Geforce?
I've played with the BIOS constantly (I've had problems before) and have reset it more than once since I upgraded it. I have no resource conflicts (my soundcard is in the first PCI slot (; ). I've had so many problems with my geforce and motherboard in the past, I've tried all kinds of installation sequences and drivers and am reluctant to start switching them again for fear of upsetting my system. :)
I'm going to switch to nvidia reference drivers, then fiddle some more with my DX settings. If that doesn't make a difference, I'll open up my PC and point a table fan at it, then try. :)
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It's definately not a cooling issue. I have a big fan pointed at my geforce2 and can feel the GPU isn't hot with my finger, yet AH still crashes without fail.
I'm about to try nvidia reference drivers, but going on past experience anything could happen, It'll quite possibly make it worse. :(
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It still crashes. The only difference with the nvidia drivers is a slightly lower pitched whine when the sound messes up. I'm going to try uninstalling and physically removing my soundcard.
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My system is alot like yours. I too had problems with AH crashing. My problem was Roger Wilco related.
Try this: Change RW to Wav Recording in the RW setup (config) program. Lots of folks have problems with AH crashing when set on Direct Sound.
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I don't have roger wilco. :(
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Does it only do it in AH?
If it does it all the time, then its either :
CPU Overheating or its the ram thats overheating.
Check your MBD settings.
I had the same problem with my mbd when I first got it. (A7A266). I had to change a jumper on the mbd for the ram (known bug in a7a266) to tell the mbd to accept more than 1 stick of ram (odd eh?) AND I had to get a new heatsink. My system was also reporting 50+C temps which would spike to 69C and back down to 50C continously.
So check your heatsink as well. The system may be reporting 50C when its working, in one of those heat spikes it may go to 70C, which is when most MBDs lock up the cpu to avoid it melting.
But again, this is all if it happens in any situation, if its an AH only problem... FORMAT *grin*
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It only happens in AH and black & white.
It is definately not a cooling problem with any part of the PC. I've had the case open with a huge desk fan pointed at it so every component and heatsink is cold to the touch, and it still crashes in AH.
I honestly don't think formatting will help. It took me 5+ builds on this system just to get the geforce working properly, and I've tried a multitude of video drivers. I believe that this may be related to the compatibility issues between the Asus KT133 motherboards and geforce2 cards. There must be some kind of workaround though.
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CPU at 52 degrees?!?! declock it
You have a cooling problem... I run a duron 800 at 1ghz and it maxes out at 46 degrees. The duron actually runs hotter than an athlon due to less surface area.
SKurj
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My CPU isn't overclocked.
I may have a cooling problem (probably caused by my cheap old case), but it isn't related to the problems I'm having with AH.
I just want to play AH. :(
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I bought Operation Flashpoint today and i'm getting the exact same problem with that.
This is becoming highly annoying.
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I solved the problem in B&W and operation flashpoint by disabling my soundcard, but AH won't even run with no soundcard.
Is there a command line parameter or something I can use to run AH with no sound hardware installed?
Incidentally, my soundcard is a soundblaster Live! player 1024. I read on the VIA message board that SB Live! cards can do this.
[ 09-24-2001: Message edited by: The Dalai Lama ]
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Try running your agp at 2X if your running it at 4X and disable fastwrite and make sure you have no IRQ's sharing going on.
Moto
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There must be a way to run AH with no sound. :(
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I have sort of the same problem. May also affect you.
My soundblaster 16 needs to be on IRQ #5 to work properly and I have a cable modem as my internet service.
I have 2 different enternet cards.
Everytime I install either ethernet card Windows 2000me kicks my sound card from IRQ #5 and puts it somewhere else and put the ethernet card there.
If I manually set the ethernet card to a different IRQ setting, windows puts a "!" circle on it in DEVICE MANAGER, plus some parts of it still wants to use IRQ #5.
I can still fly in aces high but sometimes computer locks up while entering aces high or even in it.
So I don't if any of this information helps you or not.
POkie
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The A7V (not sure about a7v-e) works best if you put the sound card in pci slot 3 and reserve a legacy irq for it under PCI configuration in the bios. I would also HIGHLY recommend updating the bios to the newest revision available.
I'd also do an uninstall and reinstall of your soundcard drivers. (Get newest version, Creative's drivers tend to be buggy overall :( ) I would then run the setup for DX 8a at that point as well.
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I've reserved a legacy IRQ for my card and put it in in slot 3 already, to no avail. :(
It seems quoite a few others have this problem with VIA KT133 chipset motherboards and SBLive! cards, as evidenced by this thread on the VIA tech forums.
http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?catid=15&threadid=390&start=1 (http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?catid=15&threadid=390&start=1)
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Try pulling out your sound card and see if you can play the game. If that works, see if you can find a different sound card, or buy a different one if you can afford it.
You DEFINATELY had a problem before with the sound card in PCI 1, that one shares with your AGP slot.
Go to Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools and choose "System Information".
Now in the left pane, expand Hardware Resources, and then click on IRQs. Copy the results and paste them in a message here for starters. We'll see from there.
Oh, and you should definately be using the Detonators for that thing. http://dangerousdog.com/downloads/dets/index.htm (http://dangerousdog.com/downloads/dets/index.htm) I'm not sure which ones are the best on 98, but I'd start with the latest "official" ones, the 12.41's.