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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Yarbles on November 20, 2006, 05:22:40 AM
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Is this a good place to ask a few questions from a position of extreme ignorance without being immediately told to go and read about a 100 pages of text?
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Yes,this is the place;)
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Ok so why doesn't the airoplane just go up and wait for the world to come round? (No seriously)
When I've flown a MK XVI Spit at 26,000 feet in level flight it struggles to get much above 300mph but swurely it should be able to do around 400mph at that altitude so why is that or is there something I am overlooking to make it faster? or is their a reason?
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I cant get views from outside of the plane after taking off which is fine with me as long as no one else can so can they?
As I said I know nothing!
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Originally posted by Yarbles
Ok so why doesn't the airoplane just go up and wait for the world to come round? (No seriously)
When I've flown a MK XVI Spit at 26,000 feet in level flight it struggles to get much above 300mph but swurely it should be able to do around 400mph at that altitude so why is that or is there something I am overlooking to make it faster? or is their a reason?
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I cant get views from outside of the plane after taking off which is fine with me as long as no one else can so can they?
As I said I know nothing!
once you take off in the main arena your view is limited to the cockpit.
I don't have any experience with the spit XVI, but you could try WEP, it's turned on with the P key. it's like afterburners.
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GOing to 26k is a big waste of time, there are only about 2 people who hang out up there, and if you challange them to a fight will dive for the deck :D
I think the highest Ive ever heard of is 32k in AH, but most of the fighting happens under 15k. Remember, this is a "game". Most things are modeled in here, but some just aren't worth all the time and effort needed to "match" things perfectly.
With out sounding nasty or anything, you SHOULD read the aces high help pages....yes all 100+ pages! also netaces.org is a great place for info. There is a lot to learn, and a lot to know to realy get enjoyment out of this game. Without all that background info, it can get very frustrating.
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Good Iam glad no one can get external views, its a great relief to know that the playing field has been level and my kill ratio is about 1 to 50 I:cry.
So I have pressed P which increases boost but still only got about 320 mph at altitude so is there more to it than that?
Thanks for the replies :)
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With out sounding nasty or anything, you SHOULD read the aces high help pages....yes all 100+ pages! also netaces.org is a great place for info. There is a lot to learn, and a lot to know to realy get enjoyment out of this game. Without all that background info, it can get very frustrating
Sure I understand and all that but I am not frustrated and I think you are saying performance is about fare/ok at lower altitude which is what I was concerned about in case I was missing something obvious and the speed at 26,000 was the only info I had.
When I buy anything with instructions I alwatys try not to read them and get it to work anyway, it might take longer but I think its all about the journey.
Anyway I appreciate the info and you have answered my questions (for now) I dont mind getting shot down lots of times but I hope it doesnt spoil it for you "Senior Members" and I have got more hours on Spitfires now than the average new pilot in the Battle of Britain.
Thanks again.
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External views are only available in bombers. I think they are suppose to represent the view of your crew looking around. However, inside the cockpit you should still be able to look around outside in all directions. Look at your keyboard mapping for the right keys. I have my views set up to work on a hat switch on my joystick. Much quicker.
In the hanger select an airplane, say your Spit. Then right click on the highlight to bring up a menu. You can get a chart that will show you airspeeds and climb rates at different altitudes.
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Originally posted by badhorse
External views are only available in bombers. I think they are suppose to represent the view of your crew looking around. However, inside the cockpit you should still be able to look around outside in all directions. Look at your keyboard mapping for the right keys. I have my views set up to work on a hat switch on my joystick. Much quicker.
In the hanger select an airplane, say your Spit. Then right click on the highlight to bring up a menu. You can get a chart that will show you airspeeds and climb rates at different altitudes.
Magic
I am tempted to take the day off work now and go home and play.
Thanks
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Originally posted by Yarbles
Ok so why doesn't the airoplane just go up and wait for the world to come round? (No seriously)
When I've flown a MK XVI Spit at 26,000 feet in level flight it struggles to get much above 300mph but swurely it should be able to do around 400mph at that altitude so why is that or is there something I am overlooking to make it faster? or is their a reason?
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I cant get views from outside of the plane after taking off which is fine with me as long as no one else can so can they?
As I said I know nothing!
IAS versus TAS
IAS : the white needle
TAS the red needle
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Originally posted by straffo
IAS versus TAS
IAS : the white needle
TAS the red needle
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Originally posted by badhorse
In the hanger select an airplane, say your Spit. Then right click on the highlight to bring up a menu. You can get a chart that will show you airspeeds and climb rates at different altitudes.
I tried that and it matches expectations on the grapgh (thanks again) but in practice even with P pressed/on it did not go that fast anywhere it seemed to me about 20% slower and once in the air the Flaps would not lower and I had read the help pages I realise, so any Ideas would be very welcome :(
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is your plane correctly trimmed ?
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Originally posted by straffo
is your plane correctly trimmed ?
Probably not.
Would you indulge me and say more?
And do you know if the Spit XV1 is essentially the same as the Spit IX in AH as there is nothing in Aircraft evaluation about the XV1 and I prefer it cos you can carry extra fuel.
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And can anyone say what is the best plane to start out on?
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I would say for LW Yak9U and Typhoon, because of each are far from perfect :)
Yak9u will force you to work your gunnery but is fast and nimble.
Typhoon is a pig (climb rate , turn rate and roll rate are at best mediocre) but is fast and got an oustanding gun package very rewarding for newbie (some hits will schred any opponnent).And it will make you work E management.
If you prefer a good newbie plane I'll recommend the P51 with 75% fuel , it's fast gun package is good ,range is good too
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Merci mon ami
but can you tell me about this trim thing a bit more and I appreciate the conserve your E idea I had not even thought about that. Tried the Typhoon but very frustrating at close quarters and I wont fly anything other than British Planes, Should really have asked which is the best British Plane to fly as a newbie!!!. Thanks again and if you get a minute can you let on about Trim?
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Hello Yarbles!
The planes I usually recommend to start in are the Spitfire MkVIII or MkIX or the F6F. All of them are not best, but good in everything and have a very forgiving handling. The F6F also needs flaps to turn, so if you have no prior flight Sim experience and no idea what im talking about here, the Spits are probably your best bet.
Are you using a Joystick or do you only have a mouse/keyboard?
For views: yes, in most online arenas (except Training Arena) the views in fighters are restricted to internal cockpit. This is the case for everyone! But be aware of one thing: you can look around with the numpad (or even better the hatswitch on a Joystick) and also have a look up (kp 5 or a button mapped on stick). Including the combination of those views and the default position, you get a total of 18 view directions. All those views are adjustable in the head position.
If you look back, by default you only see the headrest. Now hold the kp2 key and adjust your heads position with arrow keys and page up/down, untill you have a maximum visibility back. Then save that head position with F10. Now every time you hit kp2 to look back again, you get the saved head position again.... gotta do that for all views and each plane separatly.
http://www.netaces.org/ahview/view.html#title one of those 100 pages :). Seriously: Loose sight, loose fight! Learning to track your opponent in a fight is THE single most important thing. Knowing the view system and its use is mandatory for that.
Speed: What Straffo meant was, that there are two "different speeds" in a plane. IAS (Indicated Air Speed) and TAS (True Air Speed). TAS is the speed that you are really travelling at. IAS is the speed that gets measured on the outside of your plane (usually a wing), where the speed of the airflow is measured (kind a like counting the air molecules that pass by in a certain time). Since at higher altitude, the air is thinner (ie less molecules pass by at same speed), the IAS is slower, then the TAS, the higher you get the bigger the difference between the two.
On your speed indicator, the white needle is always the indicated airspeed. Theres also a second, small red speck ("needle") which tells you your true airspeed. Notice that the higher you climb, the further apart those two are.
To get numerical values of your current speeds, check the E6B on your clipboard (ESC).
Flaps: The only lower at slow speeds. For mose planes, speed for first notch of flaps is around 160-180 mph. Flaps are meant to give you additional lift to the wings at low speeds (on landing or in real tight stallfights).
Trim: If you are new to the whole flight sim thing, i recommend you turn on Auto Combat Trim (under OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > Flight on your clipboard). It will trim your plane automatically level at all times. While it does have its disadvantages in certain situations, they are minute and you have a lot other, more important things to worry about for now.
As for not reading the manual to make a game harder for you to master.... let me give you one piece of advice: AH will be hard enough to learn even WITH reading the "manual".... do yourself a favor and look at it :). http://www.netaces.org and http://trainers.hitechcreations.com are the places to go to start you. You will also find information about trim on those pages.
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Shatzi
Thats it Eureka (the answers out there)
I will read a bit more of the manual when I have digested all that very usefull info.
I am in your debt.
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Originally posted by Yarbles
Merci mon ami
but can you tell me about this trim thing a bit more and I appreciate the conserve your E idea I had not even thought about that. Tried the Typhoon but very frustrating at close quarters and I wont fly anything other than British Planes, Should really have asked which is the best British Plane to fly as a newbie!!!. Thanks again and if you get a minute can you let on about Trim?
Reading this I agree with schtazi grab a Mark VIII ,it's perhaps a bit slow for LW but it's a nice combo.
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I'd take the Spit 16. The 8 and the 16 are virtually the same plane but you get the added advantage of the .50 cals in the 16 making it more lethal. Unless, of course, Eny is in effect, then I'd grab a Seafire or a Spit 5 (again, these are virtually the same plane but the 5 gets a slight turn advantage as it doesn't carry as many rounds of ammo). The only disadvantage to the Spit family is that they are a little unstable landing compared to many (most) other choices.
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XVI it is and maybe one day the XIV !