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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on November 20, 2006, 04:26:40 PM
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I think its safe to say his career is effectively over.
I'd post the link but...
Somehow I dont think it will fly here LOL
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Some how I think your right. Kramer has lost his mind for real.
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PM it to me if you would. I have no idea what yer talkin about.
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Yep pretty suprising,
I would think he's the type of actor that would condem such an act...
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What happen???
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Found it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061120/ap_en_ce/people_michael_richards
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If Chris Rock can spout the crap he does... this is nothing at all.... or is it OK as long as it flows that direction?
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How can a "word" truly cause so much emotional consternation when blacks use it with blacks all the time?
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It might not have been a word so much as a general vibe in his message.
"Shut up! Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f------ fork up your a--."
If he would have just called them *******s when they heckled him it wouldn't have even been news, but he made it a racial thing.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
If Chris Rock can spout the crap he does... this is nothing at all.... or is it OK as long as it flows that direction?
You tell me.
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Until someone other than Bill Cosby actually condemns their race from using the word then kramer, or anyone for that matter should be able to say it all they wan't...Maybe I went a little far there, but the double standard is ridiculous. Walk around the streets of New Haven CT for 15 minutes and you will hear blacks saying to other blacks "yo n*gga, what up n*gga" 15 times! It is out of control.
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What I want to know is why does race have to be an issue in the first place? WHO CARES!
I'd rather make my friends based on what kind of person they are on the inside than what color they are on the outside.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
If Chris Rock can spout the crap he does... this is nothing at all.... or is it OK as long as it flows that direction?
In a nutshell
Yep
Is it a double standard?
Yep
Is it right?
Nope
Is Chris Rock over rated?
Yup
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I saw the thread title and thought there was a new guitar coming out.:p
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Yanno what would have been hillariously funny though.
If Kramer went off like that on Chris Rock
The exchange between the two woulda been classic LMAO
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Richards had a meltdown. What the video didn't show was him flopping. The ordeal started when people in the VIP section were ignoring him and being noisy. He went off on them to STFU and the black guy applauded Richards. Here is where it went strange, Richards starts going off on the black guy that was on his side. That's where the video starts.
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Much ado about nothing, IMHO.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Much ado about nothing, IMHO.
I couldnt agree more. It seems like the media cant wait to declare someone's career over. They are saying Tom Cruise is 'finished', like Michael Jackson, since he got married (really...read the Fox 411 thingy).
I mean...huh?
As for the comic double standards...Andrew Dice Clay learned that one some time ago. Potty mouth Eddie Murphy was all that in the 80s. Now he's in zillions of kiddy movies. Go figure.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Much ado about nothing, IMHO.
yup
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I think its safe to say his career is effectively over.
I'd post the link but...
Somehow I dont think it will fly here LOL
What a shame..
If he had been black and named Chapelle then the crowd would laugh their brains out.
Kramer was the only funny one in the Seinfeldt show (the large balled guy was funny too) . Too bad he went ballistic, cause i think he may have had a chanse at starting his own tv show as Kramer without that booring Seinfeldt around.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
What a shame..
Kramer was the only funny one in the Seinfeldt show
Agreed.
And the least funny one on the show IMO
Was Seinfeld.
And that dopey dark haired chick whom I wanted to reach through the screen and smack most of the time LOL
Just something about her that really reall REALLY rubs me thw wrong way
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Oh yes Miss Elane. She should marry Jerry and move to a far away island without a camera in sight.
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I agree with sandie that it is a big deal over nothing. I can't believe that a word that is so often used by so many people with no stigma is not allowed by others.
If negroes can say it then everyone should be able to. It really is that simple.
lazs
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I give him more credit for speaking personally about it on Letterman and not just making a press release through a spokesperson.
The video is difficult to watch. Not only because of the hate during the whole rant, but also because I think we actually witness him having a nervous breakdown, or at minimum some sort of anxiety episode. He is not a stand-up commedian, he is a character actor. He never seems comfortable when I see him in interviews or trying to be spontaneous. I think he simply lost it.
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It's a gag, the black guy was really Andy Kaufman
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Yep stick a fork in him he is done. Like an over baked "Turkey"
Is it a double standard yep.
Should he have been more proficient in taking his meds yep.
Is it news worthy???
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that is a good point... kaufman did some stuff that was more outrageous so far as feinged nervous breakdowns and fake hate speech but...
He never used the dred "N" word!!!!!!!! the word that will burn the tounges of the melinin challenged white debil!@!!!!!!
It is so silly... lefties should be making fun of the "N" word... the ACLU should be rushing in to make it a household word...
laughable... people are such twits.
lazs
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The guy is alright by me. He screwed up and lost his composure, regrets it sincerely. Has apologized profusely "yaddy yaddy yadda". Next.
:rolleyes:
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What a shocker... a comedian said something offensive.
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"Once the word comes out of your mouth and you don't happen to be African-American, then you have a whole lot of explaining," Rodriguez told CNN. "Freedom of speech has its limitations and I think Michael Richards found those limitations."
The proof of the double standard is right here. Who gives a rat's flug what he said. If he truly hates blacks, thats his deal. In my opinion, blacks can condemn the word and references to racial inequality when they stop using them themselves.
This is not news worthy.
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don't worry the pendulum is swinging back in the other direction. more and more people are becoming tired of blacks getting away with overt racism and calling blacks who exhibit this behavior on the spot for it. if a black person makes a racist statement in my presence he or she gets called on it immediately. I'm happy to say that I'm not the only one that does this publically. one doesn't need to be crass about how you call them on it but they do need to corrected about it.
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Ignorance is color blind. A person that uses derogatory racial inflamatory language, well is.............ignorant. Being in a racially/cultural mixed marriage. I have 0 tolerance for pedjudices based upon that or bigotry in general.:furious
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I would say his tetering career is destroyed. You cant say the N word in Holly-Land as a white stand up trying to make a come back. He's toast.
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Most of us don't use that word, but many of you clearly seem to know more blacks (or negroes, in Lazs' case) than I do.
"all blacks this" and "all blacks that." Since you seem to know so many, why not find one of your black friends or people you know, and ask them?
Educated and thoughtful people wouldn't use that word, which is probably why most of the posters here are SO disappointed at not feeling allowed to use it.
The word demeans and denigrates, regardless of who says it. It's not a term of endearment to me, and I think less of someone who uses it.
Maybe it is a double standard form your perspective. I don't believe it is, since it's used as a sign of kinship within certain circles, but an insult when someone not black, or not affiliated with the community that embraces that language, uses it.
It's unfortunate, but not at all surprising, that many of you fail to comprehend the complexity of that argument.
I say, have at it. Exercise free speech, say what you want, I'll bring the popcorn.
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I find it hard to believe this is the most offensive thing that's been said on the floor of that comedy club this year.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
It's a gag, the black guy was really Andy Kaufman
zOMG, that's funny!!:rofl :rofl :aok
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I just saw the full video. He really popped a gasket.
Charon
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Originally posted by Sandman
Much ado about nothing, IMHO.
Which are exactly the types of cases that the ACLU has traditionally picked up over the last 30 years. ;)
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Saw the freak-out and subsequent apology on Letterman. Taken together, it looked rediculously staged. Either it was, or Michael Richards is just somebody that's impossible to take seriously.
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heck...maybe it was a tribute to kauffman
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Originally posted by Yeager
heck...maybe it was a tribute to kauffman
:repost
Originally posted by Sixpence
It's a gag, the black guy was really Andy Kaufman
:p
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Originally posted by Mini D
I find it hard to believe this is the most offensive thing that's been said on the floor of that comedy club this year.
However I bet it was the most offensive thing this year that was directed at a member of the audience.
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red bottom... I currently don't have any negro black afro american whatever is current "friends" .
I do have normal hearing and I do get around. I have heard plenty of negros use the big "N" word and the small "n" word (negro) as in "hey negro whats up" kinda deal.
I think that you condoning one race using a word and not another is despicable and racist.
I don't think whites should be able to use the term cracker or honky or redneck but have it denied to other races for instance but... by your feeble reasoning.... it should be.
You only make things worse in my opinion.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
red bottom... I currently don't have any negro black afro american whatever is current "friends" .
I do have normal hearing and I do get around. I have heard plenty of negros use the big "N" word and the small "n" word (negro) as in "hey negro whats up" kinda deal.
I think that you condoning one race using a word and not another is despicable and racist.
I don't think whites should be able to use the term cracker or honky or redneck but have it denied to other races for instance but... by your feeble reasoning.... it should be.
You only make things worse in my opinion.
lazs
You are correct...Originally posted by lazs2
I don't think
And, it's Red Tail, or, can you not read, either? :D
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
I give him more credit for speaking personally about it on Letterman and not just making a press release through a spokesperson.
now THAT was a funny moment.
Not him apologizing.
But Seinfeld whining in the background at the audiance "Dont laugh its not funny".
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
But Seinfeld whining in the background at the audiance "Dont laugh its not funny".
I thought The Late Show did a really bad job by not telling the audience that this was not a skit but an interview. I actually thought that Seinfeld was talking to the band when he said that because members of the band were laughing.
If I saw Seinfeld walk out, sit down and say a few words, and then Dave say "We are going live to Michael in California", I would have thought it was a skit too.
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Kramer is not a racist. This should be quickly forgotten.
However Mel Gibson is an Anti Semite and will never work in Hollywood again. Never forget the filth that he said.
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Originally posted by Habu
Kramer is not a racist. This should be quickly forgotten.
However Mel Gibson is an Anti Semite and will never work in Hollywood again. Never forget the filth that he said.
I bet Kramer won't be welcome at P. Diddy's next gala spectacle. Isn't that a fair trade off?
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I don't see Barbra Walters coming out and saying that we should all boycott Kramer in is future endeavors like she did with Mel.
Funny, both of them seemed about the same in level of offensiveness. One guy makes front page news for weeks and the other slips quietly by with hardly any press coverage.
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Originally posted by Habu
Kramer is not a racist. This should be quickly forgotten.
However Mel Gibson is an Anti Semite and will never work in Hollywood again. Never forget the filth that he said.
Thats pretty much it in a nutshell-- 'Kramer' is one of them, and this story wil be long forgotten in a week. Were 'Kramer' a conservative, ultra religious type, he would have to leave the country.
George Allen used the obscure Spanish insult term 'macaca', and the Washington Post ran it front page for 3 weeks, and Allen lost his re-election by 7000 votes out of 2 MILLION + cast--
Trent Lott didnt even SAY a racist term, he merely alluded to the 1948 presidential race during a birthday celebration of a 100 year old man who was a participant (a 100 year old man who voted FOR the 1964 Civil Rights Amendment) Was on front page of every main stream paper and news broadcast for weeks== the only question was whether he would be kicked out of the Senate altogether, or just lose majority leader status.
Jesse Jackson describes New York as 'Hymie' town...forgotten in a few days
Dem Senator Robert Byrd was IN the KKK, and only a few years ago used the 'N' word on national tv....nuthin
gimme a high speed connection and a few hours and I could fill a book
:rofl
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Originally posted by rpm
zOMG, that's funny!!:rofl :rofl :aok
I'm serious
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You have to be white to be a redneck? Never thought of redneck as a racial thing.
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kramer wont work again because he is not talented
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Originally posted by Habu
Kramer is not a racist. This should be quickly forgotten.
However Mel Gibson is an Anti Semite and will never work in Hollywood again. Never forget the filth that he said.
Never say never. (http://apocalypto.movies.go.com/)
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Heres the offending video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3RjiVcIlhY
People were still laughing, although it was one of those look over your shoulder "that was so wrong so I best not laugh too loud". Notice the angry dude in the crowd calls him a "cracker" and "fluff'n white boy" LMAO.. then threatens to cause physical discomfort to said cracker.
Rather than the drama of "two racists", I see a few dudes doing their best to insult each other, pushing those buttons to get a reaction.
Remove race, class, religion, language or whatever from the equation.. we'd still find reasons to hate each other, like eye color.. you cant trust those blue eye devils!!
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Using the words doesn't necessarily make you a racist.
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
Heres the offending video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3RjiVcIlhY
People were still laughing, although it was one of those look over your shoulder "that was so wrong so I best not laugh too loud". Notice the angry dude in the crowd calls him a "cracker" and "fluff'n white boy" LMAO.. then threatens to cause physical discomfort to said cracker.
Rather than the drama of "two racists", I see a few dudes doing their best to insult each other, pushing those buttons to get a reaction.
Remove race, class, religion, language or whatever from the equation.. we'd still find reasons to hate each other, like eye color.. you cant trust those blue eye devils!!
Yep, ever witness an interacial marriage spat? Same thing but they still end up going home with eachother.
Look at europe. As an american you probably thought that all white people are the same ethnicity. Simple american. When you visit europe you'll learn that there are hundreds of ethnicities that are also white, with lots of reasons do dislike the other inferior white races.
Even the people in a place as racially and culturally homogenous as the british isles have found plenty of differences to keep them hating eachother for thousands of years to come.
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sandie is of course correct... words are just words. the redbottoms of the world are the ones who are the racists.
When women get angry at you they use the worst words they can think of to anger or shame you... if they call you a studmuffingot... does that mean that they hate all gays? If you use the word studmuffingot are you a homophobe?
negroes are just fun to poke at because they are so sensitive.
My girlfriend is of mexican decent... I am of Scottish decent... we make fun of each others background all the time.... of wait... It's ok for us because well...our relationship gives us special rights on the first amendment?
silly crap. You can be angry with on black or one mexican or one redneck or one jew... or a group of em and say whatever mean thing comes out.. that doesn't mean automatically that you hate that entire race.
The way negroes react is one reason why I avoid that race.... way too sensitive for me. Way too special. I don't need to be around people that feel they are special.
redbottom says that I don't think.. meaning in this case, that I am not thinking of how special the negroe case is... He is right and ya know what... so long as I am required to think of them as special.... I will just avoid them... that is much easier now isn't it?
lazs
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You have all been had.
imo, it was one of two things:
1.) Done to make people think Andy Kaufman is still alive. That in his death he created the illusion that he faked his death.
2.) That Andy Kaufman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman) is indeed alive. One of his characters Tony Clifton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#.22Tony_Clifton.22), was abusive on stage, maybe playing into what Michael Richards did(a reach, but a thought). He was always wanting to pull of a hoax, such as The Fridays incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#The_Fridays_incident) and Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#.22Inter-Gender_Wrestling_Champion.22). Here you will find some interesting tidbits on his death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Death), Resurfacing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Claims_of_Resurfacing) and Steve Rocco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Steve_Rocco).
I still say the black guy was Andy Kaufman, at the very least it was staged.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You have all been had.
imo, it was one of two things:
1.) Done to make people think Andy Kaufman is still alive. That in his death he created the illusion that he faked his death.
2.) That Andy Kaufman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman) is indeed alive. One of his characters Tony Clifton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#.22Tony_Clifton.22), was abusive on stage, maybe playing into what Michael Richards did(a reach, but a thought). He was always wanting to pull of a hoax, such as The Fridays incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#The_Fridays_incident) and Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#.22Inter-Gender_Wrestling_Champion.22). Here you will find some interesting tidbits on his death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Death), Resurfacing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Claims_of_Resurfacing) and Steve Rocco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Steve_Rocco).
I still say the black guy was Andy Kaufman, at the very least it was staged.
:noid :noid :noid
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The chance of someone calling you out is directly proportional to the level of influence you may have
That's why no one on this board will ever make headlines for some of the nonsense that's posted here
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except the one of us that is Michael Dorn:noid :noid who is it?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You have all been had.
imo, it was one of two things:
1.) Done to make people think Andy Kaufman is still alive. That in his death he created the illusion that he faked his death.
2.) That Andy Kaufman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman) is indeed alive. One of his characters Tony Clifton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#.22Tony_Clifton.22), was abusive on stage, maybe playing into what Michael Richards did(a reach, but a thought). He was always wanting to pull of a hoax, such as The Fridays incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#The_Fridays_incident) and Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#.22Inter-Gender_Wrestling_Champion.22). Here you will find some interesting tidbits on his death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Death), Resurfacing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Claims_of_Resurfacing) and Steve Rocco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Steve_Rocco).
I still say the black guy was Andy Kaufman, at the very least it was staged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkbjvUAdKBc
They are very similar in the way they play out... I think he just lost it in a moment of frustration.
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Im still waiting for Jessie Jackson to picket the Laugh Factory
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in russia, factory laughs at YOU!!!1
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It was the most hysterical Michael Richards performance to date. I wish more of it was on tape.
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Originally posted by Debonair
in russia, factory laughs at YOU!!!1
:rofl
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kramer was nobody before this incident, he has now became semi famous through bad press. He is the next paris hilton. I think he was getting heckled during his show and to shut them up he turned to race. Whatever didnt hurt my feelings.
I want to go to a cedric the entertainer show and be called a cracka! so i can get paid!
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Originally posted by megadud
kramer was nobody before this incident, he has now became semi famous through bad press. He is the next paris hilton. I think he was getting heckled during his show and to shut them up he turned to race.
I think he turned to race because he wanted to be as offensive and hurtful as possible. They were being loud and obnoxious, and set him off, and he pulled out the proverbial nuclear warhead of American slang to get their attention and make it sting. It worked. They were no longer joking amongst themselves, and gave him their attention. Negative, but attention nonetheless.
Sure, maybe he was fed up with the apologetic political correctness that's deboning this country; maybe he was fed up with the sense of entitlement that certain segments of the population grant themselves on a daily basis because their upbringing didn't include the concepts of respect and discretion; or maybe he was just tired of having a couple loud-mouthed cretins ruining his show. Either way, I don't think it's national news.
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Originally posted by Habu
Kramer is not a racist. This should be quickly forgotten.
However Mel Gibson is an Anti Semite and will never work in Hollywood again. Never forget the filth that he said.
Have you seen the number (Percentage) Of Jews in Hollywood productions? Can you honestly say they arent hiring based on this? Mel was drunk and probably (UNDERSTANDABLY) bitter over the attempt hollywood made to do as much damage as they could to his movie.
Chris Rock can call us white people "Cracker" every 3 seconds with total immunity... to me this Kramer thing is nothing... Just someone trying to fuel a lawsuit.
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Originally posted by bj229r
Thats pretty much it in a nutshell-- 'Kramer' is one of them, and this story wil be long forgotten in a week. Were 'Kramer' a conservative, ultra religious type, he would have to leave the country.
George Allen used the obscure Spanish insult term 'macaca', and the Washington Post ran it front page for 3 weeks, and Allen lost his re-election by 7000 votes out of 2 MILLION + cast--
Trent Lott didnt even SAY a racist term, he merely alluded to the 1948 presidential race during a birthday celebration of a 100 year old man who was a participant (a 100 year old man who voted FOR the 1964 Civil Rights Amendment) Was on front page of every main stream paper and news broadcast for weeks== the only question was whether he would be kicked out of the Senate altogether, or just lose majority leader status.
Jesse Jackson describes New York as 'Hymie' town...forgotten in a few days
Dem Senator Robert Byrd was IN the KKK, and only a few years ago used the 'N' word on national tv....nuthin
gimme a high speed connection and a few hours and I could fill a book
:rofl
You're dead on the target.
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i luv how the media piles on..yeah the guy had a bad nite..said some stupid things..prolly thought of Chris Rock during his tirade and his attempt to turn on a heckler went horribly wrong.
Most everyone is a hypocrite...how many stupid things have u said in yer lifetime & thanked the lord u weren't a celeb with someone close by with his cell-cam on?
Back of the bus for you.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
Have you seen the number (Percentage) Of Jews in Hollywood productions? Can you honestly say they arent hiring based on this? Mel was drunk and probably (UNDERSTANDABLY) bitter over the attempt hollywood made to do as much damage as they could to his movie.
If I remember correctly, the zionist conspiracy failed pretty badly at stopping Mel's movie from being a commercial success, or him from raking in his requisite 9 figures. Mel, on the other hand, seems to ascribe more than just some bad press to the Juden, but, 'all the wars in the world'. On the same note, it wasn't just Hollywood that was offended by that movie, but many other non-affiliated Jews as well. They had a right to their opinion, but opinion or not, the movie was never torpedoed. Quite the opposite, in fact.
As for Jews and Hollywood in general, I know what you mean, it is rather annoying how they stick together like that, how all the Stiens and Mans and Witz's seem to be garnering all the megabucks while the true salt of of the earth is relegated to swilling budweiser and losing teeth.
Fear not! The zionist shall yet perish under our boot! We must to kill all the Juden, and ve vill!! Herr Gibson shall lead us to the final victory, and ve shall follow into the promised utopia!!! Long live the motherland!!
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they sure as hell attempted to torpedo it... it was subjected to condemnation before it was even viewed! I tell ya...
For mels statement... He was drunk... If everything any of us said while we were drunk was taken seriously... how many women out there would actually think we were attracted to them because of their eyes???
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Neubob
4- Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users and HTC. Flaming or abusing users is not tolerated.
Hi,
The name is not Heinrich although I am of German Descent. First of all... You are right the Hollywood cartel failed in their attempt to torpedo the movie... they just didn't have the numbers... but they do have the media and they used it as heavily as possible. You seem to characterize my posts as anti-semitic but they simply are not. I was pointing out facts, about the percentages of Jews used in movies and television and the fact that this was clearly a factor in deciding who is hired and who is not. I wouldn't care if it were indians or chomorros doing this - if it is a fact, it is a fact, it doesnt matter who is guilty.
Richards, like the rest of the Seinfeld cast are (at best) Marginal talents but I find what he did no more or less offensive than being bombarded by Chris Rocks (or any other minority comedian) characterization of the white race as the root cause of all the worlds problems and we are always subjected to any and all names they wish to call us... But ohhhhh noooooo we best not return the favor!
If I were the sensitive "chip on my shoulder" type... I would wonder what your "hatred" of Germans is all about but I realize you truly think you are being clever...
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Kramer was the only funny one in the Seinfeldt show
If by funny, you mean barely tolerable, then I agree outright.
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the NBA is RACIST!!!:O :O :eek: :mad: :furious :noid :noid :noid :noid
(http://johnnyr.com/images/blecky2004-04-29.jpg)
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Im willing to give him some koolaid since hes so dam funny.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
Richards, like the rest of the Seinfeld cast are (at best) Marginal talents but I find what he did no more or less offensive than being bombarded by Chris Rocks (or any other minority comedian) characterization of the white race as the root cause of all the worlds problems and we are always subjected to any and all names they wish to call us... But ohhhhh noooooo we best not return the favor!
If I were the sensitive "chip on my shoulder" type... I would wonder what your "hatred" of Germans is all about but I realize you truly think you are being clever...
Like I said, Hienrich, I don't care about what Richards said in the least bit. It was directed at a couple of morons in the crowd and should not have affected the rest of the ethnicity. It was, of course, because his choice of expression was poor. Gibson's comments did address the whole ethnicity, and yet you characterized them as 'understandable'. You also refer to it as a cartel, and yet, somehow, many of the biggest players in this cartel are anything but Jewish. Next you'll be talking of how the jews have greedily monopolized the legal and accounting profession. The song never changes.
And I don't hate Germans. I hate people who classify casual antisemitism as: 'understandable'. Nor was I trying to be clever. Not in the least bit. I just recognize how your kind smells, even when I get only a small whiff. I will, however, repeat myself in saying that were the Jews half as bad as your ilk would like to think, this would be a far different world.
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Bob are you cramping or something? I have never seen anyone without PMS make such a leap from logic. My Ilk??? What the hell?? I said nothing anti-semitic at all... I characterized those who tried to torpedo mels movie the way they were and the way they acted... A cartel... and, I never said they were ALL jewish... although for a mere 2% of the US population, they are HEAVILY represented, arent they?
Just as the Hollywood cartel had the right to attempt to rip mel's movie before it even played, he has the right to like or dislike whomever he chooses. (Especially those who colluded to damage his project) Unfortunately he blew his top while drunk in a very public way. He also had no damn business on the road after drinking. He is paying for that mistake bigtime because as Ron White says: "At that point he had the right to remain silent.... But didn't have the ability"
BTW those who founded the studios in Hollywood did so to avoid paying royalties to Thomas Edison, so I guess you could say Hollywood got its' start by corrupt people during WW1.
I strongly suggest you switch to decaf... I have not said one thing offensive to anyone who isn't hurt by the truth! You have called me a "Moron", "Nearly-Literate", "Heinrich" and have attempted to characterize those who call the Hollywood cartel what it is... A cartel... as "Beer Swilling" and "Toothless"... For someone so offended by namecalling, you sure as hell spout off quite a bit of it yourself! So, check yourself boy... everytime you point a finger, you got 4 more pointed back at you.
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Why isn't anyone defending kramer or mels right to free speech? :p
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i thought free speech was about burning the american flag? me so confused. :confused:
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Originally posted by john9001
me so confused. :confused:
It's the florida coming through:D
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Originally posted by Dago
Why isn't anyone defending kramer or mels right to free speech? :p
Because Mel and Richards (Kramer) have yet to be arrested for what they said...?
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i hope flatulence isn't protected by the bill of rights