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Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Stratocaster on November 22, 2006, 07:17:42 PM
Ok so I just got back from a couple months break from aces high... new name is ShrimpCH and I up and get killed for the 3rd time in a row.... appears in my text buffer from a guy name "Tumor" "I have that on film and it WILL be sent to HTC"
what?
Title: congrats.....
Post by: humble on November 22, 2006, 07:19:25 PM
Obviously your regaining form quickly:aok
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Lusche on November 22, 2006, 07:24:08 PM
You´re much better than me  - i needed 4 days of flying  before being accused of "hacking" the game after coming back last week :D
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: NoBaddy on November 22, 2006, 10:55:26 PM
I never get accused of hacking. Guess folks have figured out that I suck.:)
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: SuperDud on November 23, 2006, 07:05:25 AM
Congrats!
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Max on November 23, 2006, 07:25:22 AM
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
I never get accused of hacking.


Who would ever hack a Yak? :lol
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Overlag on November 23, 2006, 07:30:21 AM
dam hackers:mad:



i used to love this in my FPS days.....i would be playing normally then id get accused of hacking. so i start playing properly (ie much better) and they would go NUTS! lol
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: culero on November 23, 2006, 07:55:23 AM
Strat, I know Tumor, and he's a straight-up guy. Something here doesn't make sense.

If you're really curious, post again with his name in the subject to catch his eye. I'm sure he'll give you a satisfactory explanation.

culero
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: WilldCrd on November 23, 2006, 09:57:55 AM
Maybe he was talking to somebody else and you mistook the message as being meant fo you?
if it was a pm maybe he clicked on the wrong name in the roster?
If ya did nadda wrong then I wouldnt worry. I have never known Dale to come down on a player with out having 100% proof he did something in the taboo catagory
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Booz on November 23, 2006, 10:27:17 AM
stratocaster,

   I'm guessing you connect was so bad you warped all over & given possible coincidental timing with load art and such it may have appeared something funny was going on everytime you were in his sights. Tumor isn't one to whine about you outflying him or anything.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: ujustdied on November 23, 2006, 10:34:19 AM
wait what? i dont really understand what your saying. i have killed people 3 times in a row what do you mean?
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: REP0MAN on November 23, 2006, 10:57:56 AM
Wear pants next time.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: skycaptn on November 23, 2006, 03:58:35 PM
Schrimp i was in that fight... my squaddie was out front i was 2.5 off watching.. you where 1k above him.. completely dissapeared for 5 seconds.. then reappeared directally on his 6 blasting away.  He managed to shake you then you got pwned of course.
twice i had you in my sights at 200 off and you just dissapeared for a convient amout of time it seemed then reappeared on someones 6.
Work on your connection or stop chord pulling.. either way dont come here and fein innocence or like your the victium cause your not.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: roach on November 23, 2006, 06:21:58 PM
The programming challenge in addressing the micro-warp issue:  Where client (1) perceives player (1) and player (2) to be, where client (2) perceives player (1) and player (2) to be, and finally, where the server thinks both players are; the amount of traffic generated by this data being sent and received to both clients from the server, and possible verification / checksums of this data.

When the connection is interrupted, the server seems to have a great deal of trust in what the client reports when the next piece of date with the client position is reported.  I'm confident the limitation is related to bandwidth - the more data going back and forth the more lag for dialup users.  Too much double checking, and data verification creates too much traffic per user, multiplied by the number of users, creates more traffic overhead on the game server(s).

If the game were patched to where any discrepancy above a certain tolerance value between where the client next reports the position of player to be, and where the server last knew player position to be exceeds that tolerance value, a certain action could be taken; which is a challenge in and of itself.

Options with unacceptable consequences:

(1). Reset client(1) position to last reported position known by server:  This could also be exploited by a player to avoid being shot down.

(2). Immediately end sortie for the player with a position discrepancy:  Again, exploitable to avoid being shotdown, and also likely to generate a support nightmare for HTC.

Possibly the best option:

(3). Keep a running count of total position discrepancies for the player.  If too many position discrepancies beyond the tolerance occur within a specific timeframe, then generate a popup message advising the player to close the game and reconnect after checking his or her Internet connection.   This would generate more processor overhead on the server, but otherwise, might be an option to consider for the developers.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: aqhawasi on November 23, 2006, 06:41:20 PM
Well said Roach.  Sounds like a viable alternative... otherwise, those servers would end hanging on trying to process so much data, so frequently, for every user.
Otherwise, if CPU is still a concern, perhaps log discrepancies, and run a task during low peak usage to generate reports which can then be used to communicate said discrepancies to the "offending" users.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Yknurd on November 23, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by skycaptn

Work on your connection or stop chord pulling.. either way dont come here and fein innocence or like your the victium cause your not.


That's funny.

Someone gets a cryptic message and now he's feigning innocence and playing a victim?

Dood, u rox.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 23, 2006, 07:26:07 PM
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Originally posted by skycaptn
Schrimp i was in that fight... my squaddie was out front i was 2.5 off watching.. you where 1k above him.. completely dissapeared for 5 seconds.. then reappeared directally on his 6 blasting away.  He managed to shake you then you got pwned of course.
twice i had you in my sights at 200 off and you just dissapeared for a convient amout of time it seemed then reappeared on someones 6.
Work on your connection or stop chord pulling.. either way dont come here and fein innocence or like your the victium cause your not.


lmao too quick to judge people...:noid
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: WilldCrd on November 23, 2006, 09:14:36 PM
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Originally posted by skycaptn
Schrimp i was in that fight... my squaddie was out front i was 2.5 off watching.. you where 1k above him.. completely dissapeared for 5 seconds.. then reappeared directally on his 6 blasting away.  He managed to shake you then you got pwned of course.
twice i had you in my sights at 200 off and you just dissapeared for a convient amout of time it seemed then reappeared on someones 6.
Work on your connection or stop chord pulling.. either way dont come here and fein innocence or like your the victium cause your not.



can you prove this? Do you have a film of this?
since there is NO WAY that YOU can prove this and it could be very possible that its a bug I find your accusation completly out of line. Its not your place for one for two the BBS is not the place.

Since the last 2 patches there have been a few odd things going on wich as in the past has happened and HT has fixed.

Cant see where he feighned innocence either.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Oldman731 on November 23, 2006, 09:15:57 PM
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Originally posted by culero
Strat, I know Tumor, and he's a straight-up guy.

Agreed.

- oldman
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Fencer51 on November 23, 2006, 09:30:09 PM
I was on when it happened and nearby.  I am in Tumor's squadron (4th FG) and we were flying togather.  You were warping all over the place and generally when someone got near your 6.  It happens, and it is always more noticable when you are sadling up on someone for a shot.

No accusations from me, as I have seen alot of werid stuff lately from numerous people.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Kuhn on November 23, 2006, 09:39:10 PM
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Originally posted by skycaptn

Work on your connection or stop chord pulling.. either way dont come here and fein innocence or like your the victium cause your not. [/B][/QUOTE

Whatever dude]  :D
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Booz on November 23, 2006, 10:22:04 PM
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
can you prove this? Do you have a film of this?
since there is NO WAY that YOU can prove this and it could be very possible that its a bug I find your accusation completly out of line. Its not your place for one for two the BBS is not the place.


 Evidently there IS a film of this. Read the thread before you post. Proof is up to HTC. Tumor is just giving a film so they know where in the logs to look. For two, your boy brought it up in the BB.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: TinmanX on November 24, 2006, 01:49:43 AM
I once dated a C Major. All my mates were dead jealous when I pulled that chord.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: skycaptn on November 24, 2006, 07:08:01 AM
Wildcard Number one.. its a violation of bbs rules to impersonate a mod.. plz cease trying to moderate me.
2nd the started of this thread sent the film to HTC. so film does exsist.

Gather the facts before attempting to throw your non weight around son.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: straffo on November 24, 2006, 08:00:02 AM
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Originally posted by skycaptn
Wildcard Number one.. its a violation of bbs rules to impersonate a mod.. plz cease trying to moderate me.


Warning, Warning,Infinite loop detected !
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 24, 2006, 08:54:40 AM
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Originally posted by skycaptn
Wildcard Number one.. its a violation of bbs rules to impersonate a mod.. plz cease trying to moderate me.
2nd the started of this thread sent the film to HTC. so film does exsist.

Gather the facts before attempting to throw your non weight around son.


yawn... your sigs to long shortin' it up son...:rofl
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Stratocaster on November 24, 2006, 08:58:15 AM
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the film... It Looks like I "Apeared" on his 6. It definatley happened but my connection is fine and no I am not a cord puller whatever that entails :rolleyes: Whatever it was it wasnt on my end. Simply put I dont like being accused when I first come back in the game trying to have a positive experience... I have seen many people appear to do the same thing and never thought twice about them "hacking". I have a constant quick connection here so its probably an in game bug. I also dont like smart-assed private messages on my radio about how it is between me and them and not letting me know the problem?

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Work on your connection or stop chord pulling.. either way dont come here and fein innocence or like your the victium cause your not.


LMFAO I got shot down ... innocent? I didnt do anything I was simply posting here because I was disturbed by the numerous times  I was accused by one person on my radio and had absolutley no idea what was going on. STFU
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: hubsonfire on November 24, 2006, 09:20:54 AM
This thread is stupid. Incredibly stupid. If you've got an issue with a player, take it up with HTC. Threads like this accomplish nothing.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Stratocaster on November 24, 2006, 09:30:27 AM
Account deleted.
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: SkyChimp03 on November 24, 2006, 09:41:51 AM
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Originally posted by Stratocaster
Account deleted.


:eek: Yours?
Title: Accused of doing "Something" within 5 mins of being back
Post by: Skuzzy on November 24, 2006, 11:08:43 AM
These matters are not to be taken up over the bulletin board.  If you, or anyone lese, needs resolution, then it is and has been, strongly encouraged you communicate directly with HTC.

This thread constitutes a misuse of the bulletin board.