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Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Irwink! on November 24, 2006, 07:23:00 PM
Watch out if you have Windows update set for automatic updates. Its currently handing out Internet Explorer 7 to the unsuspecting. You may or may not want it just yet. FYI.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Treize69 on November 24, 2006, 07:46:31 PM
IE7 SUX!!!

DO NOT download it if you have a choice, my Yahoo downloaded it automatically a few weeks back and I've had nothing but problems. Freezes constantly, crashes in mid upload, never closes without having an error pop up, causes major problems with streaming video...

Worst Update Ever!
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Grits on November 24, 2006, 07:48:07 PM
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Originally posted by Treize69
IE7 SUX!!!

Worst Update Ever!


LOL...so its the normal "improved" M$ product then?
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: loser on November 24, 2006, 08:15:01 PM
auto downloaded for me too, didnt have a chance to catch it.

no problems, no crashes, no slow downloads, no freezes, no lost downloads, no issues at all that ive noticed.

of course i dont get any of those stutters, frame rate drops, or micro freezes or ctds that everyone has been talking about in AH lately either.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: E25280 on November 24, 2006, 08:21:15 PM
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Originally posted by loser
auto downloaded for me too, didnt have a chance to catch it.

no problems, no crashes, no slow downloads, no freezes, no lost downloads, no issues at all that ive noticed.
Hope you knocked on wood . . . .
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Treize69 on November 24, 2006, 09:58:27 PM
This is how every one of my internet sessions ends since I "updated" to IE7.

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/typical.jpg)
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: WilldCrd on November 24, 2006, 10:42:07 PM
i upgraded to IE7 on my work laptop about 2 weeks ago and i havent had a single problem.
I still use firefox for the majority of my surfing but, IE7 works when i need it to
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Oldman731 on November 24, 2006, 10:59:33 PM
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Originally posted by loser
no problems, no crashes, no slow downloads, no freezes, no lost downloads, no issues at all that ive noticed.

Same here, been running it for awhile.  Can't sense any huge benefit, but it works just fine.

- oldman
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: TW9 on November 24, 2006, 11:34:38 PM
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Originally posted by loser
auto downloaded for me too, didnt have a chance to catch it.

no problems, no crashes, no slow downloads, no freezes, no lost downloads, no issues at all that ive noticed.

of course i dont get any of those stutters, frame rate drops, or micro freezes or ctds that everyone has been talking about in AH lately either.


new boxes are great arent they? ya np's here either..
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Xjazz on November 25, 2006, 12:17:17 AM
IE 7 redused my FPS from ~75 to ~3. Seriously.

I uninstall that crap and FPS went back up again.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: RAIDER14 on November 25, 2006, 01:02:34 AM
Mozilla Firefox is better
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: mipoikel on November 25, 2006, 01:42:24 AM
No problems with IE7 here.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Brooke on November 25, 2006, 01:53:01 AM
No problems here with IE 7.

I did choose not to use ClearType, though.  And to get ftp sites, you need to go to view->"view ftp site in windows explorer" or something like that (whereas IE 6 just displayed the ftp stuff).
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Ball on November 25, 2006, 02:00:49 AM
no probs with IE7, i like it.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Irwink! on November 25, 2006, 06:46:20 AM
Well we all know from recent experience how much people like unexpected changes in software so I figured I'd warn the unwary. IE7 has been available for awhile and it does cause problems for many. Even Microsoft advises that any updates be tried in a "test environment" before being deployed. For most people there is no test environment other than their one box.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: john9001 on November 25, 2006, 07:12:17 AM
using IE7 and i have no problems, but i'm not a computer expert.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: WhiteHawk on November 25, 2006, 08:28:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Treize69
IE7 SUX!!!

DO NOT download it if you have a choice, my Yahoo downloaded it automatically a few weeks back and I've had nothing but problems. Freezes constantly, crashes in mid upload, never closes without having an error pop up, causes major problems with streaming video...

Worst Update Ever!


I havnt had any problems either.  I have a legit copy of windows though.  I heard they are scheming to crash pirate copies of XP, from an unreliable source though.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 25, 2006, 10:23:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Treize69
IE7 SUX!!!

DO NOT download it if you have a choice, my Yahoo downloaded it automatically a few weeks back and I've had nothing but problems. Freezes constantly, crashes in mid upload, never closes without having an error pop up, causes major problems with streaming video...

Worst Update Ever!
 


there's ya problem, you using toolbars from a 3rd party........

that is what it looks like, if  my Yahoo is downloading stuff auto for you........
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: [Sg]ShotGun on November 27, 2006, 12:53:37 AM
While I havent had a problems direct with ie7, and after i upgraded my vid drivers to play HL ep1, every vid i DL from the AH film thread is dark and tinted red!!

any thots?
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Eagler on November 27, 2006, 05:38:17 AM
can you imagine trying to write software for the endless combination of hardware configurations that are out there today?
my guess is nothing runs trouble free on every box ....
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Krusty on November 27, 2006, 11:53:41 AM
IE7 doesn't have to run on all types of hardware. It doesn't interact with ANY hardware. The OS does. IE7 just has to flawlessly interact with the OS, both made by the same people. If they can't make their own browser properly function inside their own OS, well they're in trouble.

And we know they can, as that's what they forced on people before the anti-trust lawsuit, way back.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 27, 2006, 11:55:23 AM
No probs with IE7 here..

I use Firefox and in rare cases IE6. :D
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Krusty on November 27, 2006, 11:55:53 AM
Shotgun, try re-installing your video drivers. I've had the oddest things corrupt my video drivers before.

If that's not it, check your video card properties, and make sure nobody set any color correction and what-not.

Barring that, it could just be a well-timed coincidence, and that your monitor is starting to die. (maybe, I don't know)
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Sniv on November 27, 2006, 06:45:44 PM
Installed ie7

Had to install another pos update for pinnacle's studio and it hung.
Took 2 hours of reading message boards to find out that it was some of the "new" ie7 features for managing add on's, phishing and pop ups that was hanging the install . Closed them off et voila the thing loaded .

Its proves how interlocked some programs are these days.
BTW no one knows which one was holding up the install. (or at least htey didn't yesterday), and for that matter the folks at pinnacle didn't have a clue from the looks. It was some egghead on a board who was aware of what plug ins that pinnacle was using who came up with the answer.

I will say though that you start poking around ie7 and it does tell you a lot about what is installed .

Sniv
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 28, 2006, 07:28:22 AM
(http://www.firefox-free-download.net/img/mozilla_firefox.jpg)

Comes with a built in spell checker too

Get Firefox (http://www.firefox-free-download.net/index.html?gclid=CI2O7bHp6YgCFRQMGAodQGFsjQ)
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Eagler on November 28, 2006, 07:41:32 AM
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Originally posted by Sniv
Installed ie7

Had to install another pos update for pinnacle's studio and it hung.
Took 2 hours of reading message boards to find out that it was some of the "new" ie7 features for managing add on's, phishing and pop ups that was hanging the install . Closed them off et voila the thing loaded .

Its proves how interlocked some programs are these days.
BTW no one knows which one was holding up the install. (or at least htey didn't yesterday), and for that matter the folks at pinnacle didn't have a clue from the looks. It was some egghead on a board who was aware of what plug ins that pinnacle was using who came up with the answer.

I will say though that you start poking around ie7 and it does tell you a lot about what is installed .

Sniv


how does the browser affect pinnacle? which studio ver? I have 8 ...
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Skuzzy on November 28, 2006, 09:15:32 AM
I have too many problems with FireFox to use it.  And it is not really FireFox I have trouble with, but with the Sun Java crap.  I installed it once, and will never do that again.  Had too many problems with too many sites crashing both FireFox and IE after that.

Had to re-install the OS to get back to a stable system again.  No thanks.  

And anyone allowing MS to automagically install updates is just asking for trouble.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Mr No Name on November 28, 2006, 02:57:31 PM
No probs whatsoever with IE7 here.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Sniv on November 28, 2006, 04:40:48 PM
Fwiw
Pinnacle studio version 10.7
They use a program called pixie which uses tcp type connections.

Now there is a racket , I think I must spend 2 to 3 hours of install/upgrades for every hour I use the program.

Snivly
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 29, 2006, 07:38:09 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I have too many problems with FireFox to use it.  And it is not really FireFox I have trouble with, but with the Sun Java crap.  I installed it once, and will never do that again.  Had too many problems with too many sites crashing both FireFox and IE after that.

Had to re-install the OS to get back to a stable system again.  No thanks.  

And anyone allowing MS to automagically install updates is just asking for trouble.


this isnt a Diss or even a wide arse remark

I find that interesting though as I have more problems with Explorer then I do with FF

Like right now for example.

the AH site is suffering a bit of Lag.
And while its lagging both browsers

but its 4 times as bad with explorer then FF.
For example  under explorer I wanted to go from a thread in the Oclub to just the Main O' Club page and its hanging up.

Under FF I went from the O'club. To the general forums main listing. to Harware and software and one other thread before I came to this thread to post this and it under explorer it Finally just went to  the O'club main page

Same computer, two separate browsers running the same time.
Actually Explorer had a head start

From what you have said in the time Ive been here, You dont do alot of the things on the net alot. if not most of the rest of us do.
so to be fair our needs are probably different then yours for what we want to be able to do.

and vise verse

I agree though I never leave autoupdates on.

One question though. How do I get rid fo that annoying "Windows Security alert" Icon?
 and the little balloon that opens telling me what I already know..That its turned off telling me to click here to fix the problem.

I dont want to click there to fix the problem. Far as Im concerned that annoying little balloon  and the Windoze updates IS the problem
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Skuzzy on November 30, 2006, 07:41:21 AM
Dred, in the Services, disable "Security Center".  That will kill that annoying pop-up ballon and tray ICON.

From a performance perspective, I see no difference between FF and IE.  I see a lot of W3C short-comings in FF.  Most of them are just little things which does not stop a page from being viewed.  I am just sensitive to them.

Its the Sun Java crap that is a problem.  And it really is not the Sun Java crap, it is the WEB pages which assume IE is the browser being used.  So they use proprietary IE crap.  I hate that as well.

If I could did not have to use the Sun Java crap, then I would not mind FF, but as it stands, I see no benefit to switch.  99.9% of the problems most people have with IE have to do with using the default settings MS ships it with.  Once you have it configured to approximate FF's configuration, then there is really not much difference between the two.

I just see no reason to change to FF.  Unless I really enjoy program crashes due to the Sun Java crap.

Let me be clear here.  I am not a proponent for IE nor anything related to Microsoft.  But I do not see FF as a better solution.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Martyn on November 30, 2006, 03:03:02 PM
MAJOR problems with IE7 and Outlook and our telephone software.

Install IE7 and Outlook won't send/receive.

Very flaky.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 30, 2006, 03:58:14 PM
For me, FF is at least four times faster than IE after optimizations. The only situation it's crashing on me is sometimes when the embedded Adobe viewer crashes.

I don't have major problems with java + FF. Even though I usually avoid installing it if I can.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Skuzzy on November 30, 2006, 04:02:16 PM
I only have to have Java for the stupid banking institutions here MrRipley.  Our Chase-Manhattan banks here use Java and crash everytime you try to use the Sun Java kit.  They work fine with IE.

And they wonder why they keep losing account information to hackers?  Sheesh.  I do sooooo detest Java based sites.
Title: Internet Explorer 7
Post by: Pudgie on December 01, 2006, 10:28:07 PM
Running IE7 + Sun Java here w/ no problems..................... ...........yet.

Never say never........................ .....

:D