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Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Major Biggles on November 24, 2006, 07:50:56 PM
The most awesome game I've ever played!

anyone else bought it yet?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SuperDud on November 24, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Letting the old lady buy it for me for x-mas. Can't hardly stand to wait!!! Give us a little reveiw on it.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Stang on November 24, 2006, 08:30:07 PM
Haha you should see what she's buying me, SupaTard.

:p
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 24, 2006, 08:31:03 PM
ive got it right hre, but it has issues and freezes and i cant get to the battle maps god its the most frustrating thing ive known.


had it for 2 weeks now.  might buy a new PC just for it.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: vorticon on November 24, 2006, 08:44:36 PM
didnt realize it was out yet...


will buy ASAP...
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: DiabloTX on November 24, 2006, 08:56:10 PM
So...do you get to go medieval on some peeps?  If so, I'm in.




(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/david_woodersonSMALL.jpg)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: leitwolf on November 24, 2006, 09:58:11 PM
I havent touched WoW since i got M2TW.
That says a lot. :eek:
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: moot on November 24, 2006, 10:00:17 PM
Can you ignore everything but the actual warfare, or do you have to care for your toolsheds and reputation etc?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: FiLtH on November 24, 2006, 10:31:37 PM
Ya good question moot...I tire quickly of resource management games and get a cheat as soon as possible.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Major Biggles on November 25, 2006, 05:39:20 AM
ok, well campaign mode is more fun than it was in rome, the economics are more simple, and easier to fiddle with. the battles are just incredible. i've got a pretty high end machine and i get a low frame rate with the graphics turned up high, but it runs nice and smooth, and still looks great on medium settings (bat, if it's freezing for you, turn your settings down from the auto-detect, the graphics still look fantastic, but it runs more smoothly)

i think it really is one of the best games i've ever played, definitely worth the money. lots of unique units and features. twice as good as rome, or even more than that :)

battles are really great fun, and there ar loads of special abilities now, almost every unit has one or two, they're a lot of fun to play with.

superdweeb, what do you want to know about it? i could post a few nice screenies if you like :)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SuperDud on November 25, 2006, 06:56:22 AM
Most importantly... how is diplomacy? It was about stupid in Rome. You covered the rest for me.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Major Biggles on November 25, 2006, 08:33:20 AM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Most importantly... how is diplomacy? It was about stupid in Rome. You covered the rest for me.


it's beter than it was in rome, although you still need to move your diplomats around, which can be a right pain in the arse at times...

much of the campaign element is based on the rome game engine i guess, but much improved. imagine rome, with all the bad bits fixed, and plenty of new goodies to play with :)

the thing i love most is the flaming arrows, and the way archers work now. the arrows are so cool, and the archers are smart now, they adjust their angle of fire so as to cause as little friendly fire as possible, and they shoot over things properly now :)

really good fun, i'll see about getting some nice screenies :)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Gunslinger on November 25, 2006, 09:48:09 AM
I'll have to check this game out.  I tell you what though I love the new XBOX360 commercial for "gears of war"
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: -tronski- on November 25, 2006, 10:16:53 AM
Good game, although I think the inquisitors are an absolute pain. As the English I conquered all the British Isles, France, Germany, and have reached the top of Italy - but somehow my King, and his heir are executed for Heresy??
I'm no expert of medieval politics - but I would think any powerful English monach and his heir would never allow themselves to be treated like that...

 Tronsky
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: moot on November 25, 2006, 10:47:54 AM
And you can't just kill them?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Ball on November 25, 2006, 11:51:35 AM
I cant wait to get this game.  don't know if it will run on my PC though.  Hope it comes out on xbox!

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Originally posted by -tronski-
I'm no expert of medieval politics - but I would think any powerful English monach and his heir would never allow themselves to be treated like that...

 Tronsky


no... one even created a new religion so he could get married again ;) :D
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Major Biggles on November 25, 2006, 11:52:01 AM
tronski, train an assassin and kill the inquisitors.

what i do find a little annoying about the game is that you can't change heir. i had a guy that was into dating bearded ladies, i was a little disappointed that i had a fruitcake for a king. obviously, he had no sons, but the 'adopted' members of the family were under his branch, so i had former captains as kings...

meanwhile, my uber cool crusader is off in jerusalem, 9 star general with great traits, a hot wife, plenty of kids, and he was 10th inline to the throne :furious

other than that... it's absolutely great, i can't put it down...
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Ball on November 25, 2006, 11:52:58 AM
put those unwanted family members in a crappy little fishing boat and set sail for hostile shores...

they wont bother you for long.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Fishu on November 25, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Good game, although I think the inquisitors are an absolute pain. As the English I conquered all the British Isles, France, Germany, and have reached the top of Italy - but somehow my King, and his heir are executed for Heresy??
I'm no expert of medieval politics - but I would think any powerful English monach and his heir would never allow themselves to be treated like that...


There is a solution to your problem: Hire a bunch of assassins and go after the inquisitors.

You can also block the path of inquisitors and the others by blocking river crossings with a unit. I've been also playing as the english and I own most of the europe, where every river crossing and a narrow path is blocked by a guard unit. No foreign servant shall pass into my kingdom.

The inquisitors also keeps away if you're well respected by the pope. Besides having most of europe, I do also hold almost every seat in the vatican. You'll quickly become a good christian by producing as many priests as you can and by building few churches, especially the bigger churches are liked by the pope.

However you still like to expand, but the pope doesn't want you to mess up the other good christians? Don't worry! The same assassins that are used to keep off inquisitors and other foreign servants can also kill even the mightiest king. I've conquered France, Milan, Holy Roman empire, Denmark, Spain, Portugal and Sicily by assassinating their family members, heirs and kings. Even the pope likes it when I fight against the rebels left behind by the forgotten empires. Although few priests are still a more effective way to win the love of pope.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Pooh21 on November 25, 2006, 02:38:53 PM
Tired of the stupid pirates and the annoyance of sea battles, aside from that it is a great game. Right now as plucky little Poland I have only 1 frikken port and the AI has 6 groups of pirates grouped right outside my port waiting to vulch the boats as I build them.

As the English I had my heir on a crusade cause the pope told me to send him. They didnt want to set sail from genoa and all deserted so I reloaded a save and went across italy like they wanted to, which is packed full of traffic and took six years. Anyway my fleet lead by a 3 star admiral met up with my crusade in the Balkans and set sail. Next turn my king dies so the new king is on crusade on a boat in the adriatic. Naturally the next turn my ship is of course gangbanged by the AI egyptians and rebel pirates.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Ball on November 25, 2006, 02:44:15 PM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Tired of the stupid pirates and the annoyance of sea battles, aside from that it is a great game. Right now as plucky little Poland I have only 1 frikken port and the AI has 6 groups of pirates grouped right outside my port waiting to vulch the boats as I build them.

As the English I had my heir on a crusade cause the pope told me to send him. They didnt want to set sail from genoa and all deserted so I reloaded a save and went across italy like they wanted to, which is packed full of traffic and took six years. Anyway my fleet lead by a 3 star admiral met up with my crusade in the Balkans and set sail. Next turn my king dies so the new king is on crusade on a boat in the adriatic. Naturally the next turn my ship is of course gangbanged by the AI egyptians and rebel pirates.


:rofl
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Legate on November 25, 2006, 03:49:12 PM
Have you guys tried the Napoleonic knockoff of Rome?  Its actually pretty good.

Imperial Glory, its called.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Gunslinger on November 25, 2006, 03:53:12 PM
This game is huge, I got it today.....2 DVDs  :confused:
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 25, 2006, 04:35:59 PM
Whats the system regs?

And we need screenshots!
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Stang on November 25, 2006, 04:59:19 PM
Yes please screenshots!
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Fishu on November 25, 2006, 06:36:19 PM
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/fishu/trash/narrow.png)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 25, 2006, 07:53:17 PM
Thanks Fishu!


Does the game have cool defensive weapons like in , I think it was called, Joan Of Arc?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: -tronski- on November 26, 2006, 10:15:35 PM
Yeah I've gone the assassin trail too (bloody hell those inquisitors are a pain!)...I might try the guard trick in the next game

The worst thing about a crusade is if the target city falls and your going over-land, getting back - you manage to piss off every other country you "tresspass"

I've been equiping every army with 2 culverns...they're a magnificent thing to watch when you shell enemy ranks with explosive rounds...

 Tronsky
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Bluedog on November 26, 2006, 10:49:55 PM
Great game, I havent been able to put it down since i got it last week.
RTW with all the bad bits sorted and lots more good stuff added, just as someone else said upthread a bit.

Tronski, I had the same problem with the Inquisitors in my first game, so I got all religous and trained up a preist every opportunity I got, pretty soon they  dominate the college of cardinals, and you have a pretty much garunteed English Pope.
This does two things, first, all those priests getting around keep the Heresy levels low to start with and second any time a heretic or witch shows up, you just send a Cardinal after them, they will soon sort out the strife.

If the Inquisitors still show up spreading filthy rumours about your royal family, just make a Cardinal or two travel with each army, the Inquisitors seem to stay away from armies accompanied by a very high ranking member of the Church.

I took Scotland very early in the campaign and have built Edinburgh (sp?) up into a huge city with a huge cathedral and the Theologens Guild built their headquarters there, so every priest I train comes with a 90%+ piety rating...future Popes garunteed.

One big plus about having all these churchmen around is that when you get the Pope to call a Crusade ( a big plus about having a freindly Pope) you can send all your surplus priests and cardinals off on the mission of their lives to convert the heathens around whatever region your crusade is headed to, making it a whole lot easier to capture surrounding settlements.

All up so far I am loving this game, at least as much as the previous games in the Total War series.
You can set it up to do everything for you bar the fighting, or delve into the deepest corner of the game mechanics and see how you can influence the world on a grander scale.
I need a new puter to run it with everything maxed out, but it still looks pretty good on medium settings.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Hawco on November 27, 2006, 06:52:29 PM
OK, I'm just about to throw myself into this thing and download it via steam, quick question, Can you play against other people online ? or is best to do your own thing?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Bluedog on November 29, 2006, 10:36:44 PM
Yes, there is a multiplayer option.
I cant say much about it as I havent tried it yet, but it is certainly able to be done.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Saintaw on November 30, 2006, 06:44:16 AM
Yeah it nice, but...

Cavalry charges are kaput and I still have peasants pwning my heavy infantry on  castle/city walls. Like everyone else, I played the initial campaign as english. I am now playing as Danes, and using that auto-combat features until they fix the above.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Saintaw on November 30, 2006, 06:58:08 AM
PS: for moot (http://www.firingsquad.com/games/medieval_2_total_war_review/default.asp)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Vudak on November 30, 2006, 07:29:21 AM
I'll probably buy it, but I have my doubts that it will be better then the player-produced revisions that Rome had...  Rome Total Realism is one of the best mods for a game I've ever played and 7.0 is only "two weeks" away :)

'Course, it will be interesting to see what players do to Medieval...  Trust, you think you like it now?  Wait six months or so for the community to put something out - you'll love it :)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Hawco on November 30, 2006, 10:05:43 AM
Started of as France, man, those inquisitors are a pain the prettythang, I've secured all my rebel areas, formed an alliance with the holy roman empire, captured Caen from the english and now i'm building trade routes and trading rights, once I've built up my forces I shall march East lol:D
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Scrap on December 05, 2006, 12:08:53 AM
Bought the game last week (got to MicroCenter just as they were pulling the first 5 copies out of the inventory bin to put on the shelf).  Definately worth every penny spent!  I started my first, and thusfar only, grand campaign as the Holy Roman Empire.  I own most of Europe and the only thing holding me back is Milan.  Just had my first major run-in with them tonight and wiped out about 1,000+ of their crummy uber-crossbowmen and spearmen.  All it took was a couple hundred Feudal Knights charging their flanks while my bucket-headed dismounted knights were guarding the Tribulchet (sp?).  What a game!!!!!  The battles are hard fought and tactics play a huge role in combat.  No doubt this game will keep me occupied this winter...



... maybe a bit too much :O
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 05, 2006, 12:17:56 AM
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Originally posted by Vudak
I'll probably buy it, but I have my doubts that it will be better then the player-produced revisions that Rome had...  Rome Total Realism is one of the best mods for a game I've ever played and 7.0 is only "two weeks" away :)

'Course, it will be interesting to see what players do to Medieval...  Trust, you think you like it now?  Wait six months or so for the community to put something out - you'll love it :)



R:TR is the best version by a mile. i wouldnt play anything else.



side note, do you own medieval also? i was wondering if having R:TR loaded on was causing the conflict that stops my medieval working, and considered deleting R:TR altogether to see if it works.

just wondering if you have both loaded on one machine and workin fine, if so i wont bother with the hassle and just wait till i get a new PC next year some time.
Title: Saw
Post by: moot on December 05, 2006, 01:15:08 AM
There goes my lunch money..
I'll pick the underest dog in the game, and put the rest of em six under :mad: :mad:
The Belgians are going on their knees though :t
:lol
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Saintaw on December 05, 2006, 10:34:59 AM
Yes, they undermoddeled the flemmish! This is a conspiracy! They had lazer beams, I swear!!! :D
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Vudak on December 05, 2006, 12:38:17 PM
Batfink, I don't own Medieval yet, so I can't help ya out :(
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 05, 2006, 01:03:50 PM
Cool videos of the game can be found here.

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=2767 (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=2767)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 06, 2006, 11:30:28 PM
My girlfriend bought it for my bday. Id put it on a even scale to rome, if not better.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 07, 2006, 11:59:03 AM
You bunch of rats, I HAD to send 50 pops ... to ear some freacking fake French accent "To zee glooree of ze kang!!!":furious

Other than that ... a beauty of a game. I recall 13-16 years ago playing a simililar game on PC that was pretty cool. Anyone remember something like that?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 07, 2006, 12:18:27 PM
When you put your troops on a ship to head to the crusades you have to round spain. As you go around it your troops start deserting because your not making progress toward the fight. :mad:

I was also quite happy taking out rebel settlements and leaving France alone. But do they leave me alone, no. No Im handing their arses to them. :)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Saintaw on December 07, 2006, 02:02:04 PM
lol @ Frenchy, I have the french version... the opposite is quite stunning too :D
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 07, 2006, 03:53:18 PM
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
You bunch of rats, I HAD to send 50 pops ... to ear some freacking fake French accent "To zee glooree of ze kang!!!":furious

Other than that ... a beauty of a game. I recall 13-16 years ago playing a simililar game on PC that was pretty cool. Anyone remember something like that?





Lords of the Realm?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 07, 2006, 04:31:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
You bunch of rats, I HAD to send 50 pops ... to ear some freacking fake French accent "To zee glooree of ze kang!!!":furious

Other than that ... a beauty of a game. I recall 13-16 years ago playing a simililar game on PC that was pretty cool. Anyone remember something like that?



Art of War?



ack-ack
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 07, 2006, 06:16:14 PM
I don't recall much, except it was about England only, you could man the catapults while attacking a fort. You could throw "diseases" over the walls to weacken the defenders. You had to micro manage your economy.

Same years as playing Flight of the Intruder.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: -tronski- on December 07, 2006, 08:50:11 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
When you put your troops on a ship to head to the crusades you have to round spain. As you go around it your troops start deserting because your not making progress toward the fight. :mad:

I was also quite happy taking out rebel settlements and leaving France alone. But do they leave me alone, no. No Im handing their arses to them. :)


Crusaders can cross catholic countries unmolested - however, if the crusade stops, getting back causes all sorts of problems. March an army to the south of France, and take merc ships to the holy lands is the best solution.

Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I don't recall much, except it was about England only, you could man the catapults while attacking a fort. You could throw "diseases" over the walls to weacken the defenders. You had to micro manage your economy.

Same years as playing Flight of the Intruder.


Defender of the Crown?

 Tronsky
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 07, 2006, 08:52:57 PM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Crusaders can cross catholic countries unmolested - however, if the crusade stops, getting back causes all sorts of problems. March an army to the south of France, and take merc ships to the holy lands is the best solution.

 

Defender of the Crown?

 Tronsky


Thanks. But, I captured some settlements in the middle east and have a base of operations there now. I'll use your idea in future games.

I love how a Christian country can attack yours. But once you start kicking their butts for attacking you the pope demands you stop.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Vudak on December 07, 2006, 09:22:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Art of War?



ack-ack


That was the first computer game I ever played...  Many what I'd give to play it again :)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Vudak on December 07, 2006, 09:24:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I don't recall much, except it was about England only, you could man the catapults while attacking a fort. You could throw "diseases" over the walls to weacken the defenders. You had to micro manage your economy.

Same years as playing Flight of the Intruder.


Lord of the Realm series?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: wooley on December 08, 2006, 08:11:28 AM
Great.

My marriage is suffering enough from Aces High, but now you all go and put this idea in my head...

:D :D
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Gunslinger on December 08, 2006, 06:38:11 PM
I've been playing.  I've found that a good assassin is worth his weight in gold.  I've trained a formidable assassin army.  I start low with princesses, merchants and such and just keep killing anyone I can.

Then I go after the religious heierarchy (SP) and keep killing the cardinals till mine get promoted.  I'm going after the pope himself now.  My faction is next in line for the pope and once it is I'm assuming my relations will be better.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 09, 2006, 11:21:25 AM
Gosh darn mongolians!

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/581_1165684874_pics-611.jpg)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 09, 2006, 05:47:33 PM
How do u increase the piety of your homies?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 09, 2006, 07:10:43 PM
I do it by killing heretics. Witches seem to give more.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 09, 2006, 09:41:35 PM
For your familly, not only for the priests?

BTW, for the ones that wonder, the collector edition comes with a DVD of the history chanel on the cruisades, a DVD on the knight templars, a CD of the soundtrack of the game.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Pooh21 on December 10, 2006, 03:59:52 AM
Building churches and recruiting priests seems to help raise the families piety. I usually have a priest accompany my armies but I am not sure if that helps.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Hawco on December 11, 2006, 04:39:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
I've been playing.  I've found that a good assassin is worth his weight in gold.  I've trained a formidable assassin army.  I start low with princesses, merchants and such and just keep killing anyone I can.

Then I go after the religious heierarchy (SP) and keep killing the cardinals till mine get promoted.  I'm going after the pope himself now.  My faction is next in line for the pope and once it is I'm assuming my relations will be better.

What a great idea gunslinger ! I've been plauged with inquisitors and spys for ages now, it's got to the stage were I have to keep moving family members around to protect them from the inquisitors, you don't start a war by knocking off cardinals do you ?
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 11, 2006, 04:42:18 PM
Im having a hard time getting a high enough success % when I try to kill another countries family member.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Fishu on December 11, 2006, 05:01:21 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Im having a hard time getting a high enough success % when I try to kill another countries family member.


The more assassins the merrier it gets.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Yoshimbo on December 11, 2006, 07:57:26 PM
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and they shoot over things properly now

THANK YOU! FINALLY!

Quote
..don't know if it will run on my PC though.

if you could play R:TW on the highest graphical settings easily then you should be able to run M2:TW on the medium graphics settings.....i gotta uprade muh PC

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R:TR is the best version by a mile. i wouldnt play anything else.

o yes R:TR is waaaaaaay better than the vanilla version, have you tried the Chivalry Mod?
currently pwning the middle east and corssing over into the west conquering the Byzantines, using the Cilician-Armenians

i gotta get dis game. PLZ TELL ME THAT T3H A.I. IS SMARTER!!!! sometimes it just gets annoying at how dumb the AI can be on Rome, even in some of the mods. for instance just today, after i had conquerd the Seljuks. I was betrayed by my long time allies, the Byzantines, believe they didn't come in force....actually quite pathetic what they tried to take my cities w/ small three unit armies or suky troops, plus they where already fighting on two other fronts! then years later, while i'm rly startin to take it to the Byzantines, the 'tarded Fatmids attack me! and with waht!? a fully stacked army sonsisting of.....city militia....wtf....that wasn't a fight..that was a fuggin slaughter. then they sue for peace....then they attack me again...loose and sue for peace.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Saintaw on December 12, 2006, 12:13:32 AM
Sorry, it's not.

On the campaign map, your allies will attack you if you have a strong border with them. They still attack your fully stacked cities with a very small army... using the  bandwagon tactic.
On the tactical map, units remain motionless while you fire arrows and big rocks at them.


But it's a pretty game.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 12, 2006, 09:51:24 AM
This one seems alot slower then Rome. The action seems slower and I think theres to many extra characters roaming around on the maps. And after a few battles I no longer fight them myself. I just let the computer do them for me. Battles are alot more costly now. No more sending an equal number of forces at one another and having a complete massacre.
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 12, 2006, 12:37:03 PM
That's an bellybutton wooping right there. Like Saintaw said, the AI is a bit dumb. When they attack my forteress, the first turn I attack them. I get a unit of town militia "500y" ahead of my gate. All the eni archers are going to waste their arrows on the unit.

While the AI does that, I put my 2 catapult units just ahead of the gate, and aim for the center row of grunts. When the catapult is too short, I hit the archers, when it's right on I kill many grunts, when it's too long, I kill the mounted general bodyguards ... including the general.

When the balistas are out of ammo, I do the same with my 3 units of archers, to soften the grunt units. The enemy archers are out of ammo by that time.

Lastly, I get my grunts/cavalery out. I put the grunts for a HO attack, bring my cavalery all the way around for a back attack, and a grunt unit on the flank.

The AI just looks at me. I order all the unit to attack at once, the eni often freack out and run.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/82_1165947899_clearvictory.jpg)
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 12, 2006, 12:56:34 PM
The think with France, is you have borders with many countries, plus it's a crossroad for anywhere you want to go. I'm #1 in every cathegory in 1180, with a 40 year old French pope. I just conquered Genola/Milan as those Milaneese attacked me. I didn't even conquered Caen from thr Brits.

Dono what I did, but Spain, Brits, Venitia broke their alliances with me and attacked me in two turns. The Germans and the Moores have military units on my territory, without my permission, but I cannot attack them as they the teutons are neutral, and moores allied.

I guess the stronger you are, the more the AI gangbangs you. I'll sack Milan/Genola, and flatten the Brits, at least I'll have a part of land in a corner of the map with no neighbors. Hopping that my own pope is not going to ask me to let go, like he did with the Milaneeses.:furious
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Saintaw on December 12, 2006, 03:57:55 PM
<-- HATES inquisitors.


of any kind, realy :D
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Fishu on December 14, 2006, 07:47:24 PM
The long awaited patch will be up tomorrow, on friday!
Title: Medieval II: Total War
Post by: Reschke on December 17, 2006, 10:08:13 PM
Just bought it and a DVD drive today. Installing it now for a couple of hours of gameplay before I head off to Vancouver for a business trip. My work laptop won't run RTW so I know it won't touch this one.