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Title: smoke
Post by: jaxxo on November 26, 2006, 04:14:04 PM

had a guy in tank town shooting smoke directly in front of his tank...after he got a good cloud up i could not see him but he could see me...he knew what he was doing cause he supplied him self  previous to setting up (the smoke didnt go away) i zoomed in all the way yes...i tried this with a squaddy to same effect. Is this normal? couple this with the tank zoom bug and it got old quick.

Title: smoke
Post by: 68slayr on November 26, 2006, 06:01:10 PM

Yes you can see through smoke if you are close to the smoke.

Title: smoke
Post by: jaxxo on November 27, 2006, 01:16:17 PM

yeah thats what im saying..is the point of smoke to smoke yourself out? i doubt it..putting a big smoke round out to give up your location cant be part of any tank strategy...seems like a bug to me...think it goes hand in hand with the other tankturret zoom bug alot of people are getting

Title: smoke
Post by: scottydawg on November 28, 2006, 09:29:47 AM

I would say that using smoke as cover is completely normal.

Title: smoke
Post by: stickpig on November 28, 2006, 03:10:25 PM

But if its thick enough, it should blind yourself as well as the enemy...shouldn't it?

Title: smoke
Post by: jaxxo on November 28, 2006, 03:50:16 PM

eactly , he can see me i cant see him

Title: smoke
Post by: scottydawg on November 28, 2006, 04:00:06 PM

Which is exactly as it should be.

Title: smoke
Post by: jaxxo on November 28, 2006, 10:35:55 PM

granted im sure ww2 scopes varied in strength but what logic dictates that one person can see thru it and one cant? its a bug forum thats why i posted..was hoping for some tech help

Title: smoke
Post by: hubsonfire on November 29, 2006, 12:20:25 AM

The smoke only limits visibility for the other tanks, not the guy firing it. If you fire smoke directly in front of your tank, it's not even visible at full zoom. That is not exactly as it should be.

Title: smoke
Post by: Schatzi on November 29, 2006, 05:05:20 AM

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Originally posted by jaxxo
granted im sure ww2 scopes varied in strength but what logic dictates that one person can see thru it and one cant? its a bug forum thats why i posted..was hoping for some tech help

Get yourself hidden in a gunnysack. Noone can *see* you in it... but you can see clearly through from close up (and the dark inside to the light outside).

Title: smoke
Post by: hubsonfire on November 29, 2006, 11:18:11 AM

Maybe they're breeding Europeans much smaller these days, but I can pretty much always tell when someone's hiding in a sack. ;)

Title: smoke
Post by: scottydawg on November 29, 2006, 11:51:24 AM

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Originally posted by Schatzi
Get yourself hidden in a gunnysack. Noone can *see* you in it... but you can see clearly through from close up (and the dark inside to the light outside).

To extrapolate: If you are enveloped within a cloud of smoke, the smoke is not only blocking a percentage of the light from illuminating you, it is also obscuring the target's vision with particles...  if you are in the smoke cloud, your target is only being obscured by the particles, which are also perceptually farther apart than they are to the target... also the target is not light-dampening obscured.

The perceptual part might seem confusing, sorry, trying to think of a worthy analogy.