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Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 05:00:58 PM
what kind of planes did they use to train fighter pilots in WW2?
Title: Q about planes
Post by: Nilsen on November 26, 2006, 05:01:47 PM
Texan?

(http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/texan.jpg)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: CavPuke on November 26, 2006, 05:08:09 PM
(http://www.collingsfoundation.org/hiresaircaft/high-pt-17stearman.jpg)

Don't forget the Boeing Stearman.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 05:11:22 PM
yep.   i think that might be the one.  

the texan.

at least 2, but up to 4 of them dogfight over my house all the time (a few times a week)...i have been trying to identify them with no luck.

the shape looks about the same...squared wings with rounded tail feathers.

everytime i hear them i stop what i am doing and go out to watch them.

yesterday they had one painted with japanese markings v.  what looked like a typical p51 scheme.

now to figure out how to get up in one of those puppies.


thanks guys.  



:)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: Ball on November 26, 2006, 05:17:58 PM
they dressed up a load of AT-6 harvard/texans for the film tora tora tora as A6m's if i remember rightly
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 05:21:46 PM
according to this site (http://fotodj.com/pages/edwards2005/DK22_840.htm)


"The front of a North American SNJ-5 Texan and the back end of a Vought BT-13
were used to construct replica Nakajima B3N "Kate" torpedo bomber, N3725G"
Title: Q about planes
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 26, 2006, 05:22:44 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
yep.   i think that might be the one.  

the texan.

at least 2, but up to 4 of them dogfight over my house all the time (a few times a week)...i have been trying to identify them with no luck.

the shape looks about the same...squared wings with rounded tail feathers.

everytime i hear them i stop what i am doing and go out to watch them.

yesterday they had one painted with japanese markings v.  what looked like a typical p51 scheme.

now to figure out how to get up in one of those puppies.


thanks guys.  



:)


Theres a few companies around that allow for people to dogfight in prop planes like the Texan. Cost a heck of alot of money.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 05:26:04 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Theres a few companies around that allow for people to dogfight in prop planes like the Texan. Cost a heck of alot of money.


or the right contacts.  i tend to work on that end of things...a little cheaper that way...

for instance, i might say, hey, looky here, i am painting a nice big picture of your airplane that would look great in your office and you can have it if you take me up on the next cancelled flight.

just a for instance...not impossible these things.

must fly in real fighter...must fly in real fighter...must fly in real fighter....
Title: Q about planes
Post by: BlueJ1 on November 26, 2006, 05:33:52 PM
:lol
Title: Q about planes
Post by: BlkKnit on November 26, 2006, 05:36:05 PM
Saw one of them roll in here forfresh paint a few years ago.  It was marked up like a japanese plane both before and after.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: culero on November 26, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
88, you in Florida? Maybe THESE GUYS? (http://www.natg.com/)

culero
Title: Q about planes
Post by: Chairboy on November 26, 2006, 06:00:36 PM
They also used Arado AR 96s and Tachikawa Ki-9 Spruces.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: Debonair on November 26, 2006, 06:07:24 PM
those are trainers
stallion51.com is who u want teh freebie from
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 06:13:50 PM
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Originally posted by culero
88, you in Florida? Maybe THESE GUYS? (http://www.natg.com/)

culero


not sure...i don't think so...st. augustine is a pretty long haul from here...i am on the gulf between pensacola and panama city...so unless they have another group that operates here.

thanks culero.

:)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: CAF51 on November 26, 2006, 06:23:35 PM
Ones I know of are the PT-19, BT-13, then the AT-6 (Texan), in that order of advancing skill.  Probably big holes in that though.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 26, 2006, 06:33:37 PM
88...stop abusing...the...period...key. .......it's freaking annoying........and it makes you........look like a........Nash shades.......ok?  ..........pretty please?........??>?/?/?/??.>/>???/?????????

:D
Title: Q about planes
Post by: RAIDER14 on November 26, 2006, 06:51:02 PM
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Originally posted by Ball
they dressed up a load of AT-6 harvard/texans for the film tora tora tora as A6m's if i remember rightly



the movie and the air show display
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 07:16:14 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
88...stop abusing...the...period...key. .......it's freaking annoying........and it makes you........look like a........Nash shades.......ok?  ..........pretty please?........??>?/?/?/??.>/>???/?????????

:D


well.  since you got rid of that retarded picture at the bottom of all of your posts, it seems only fair.

;)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 26, 2006, 07:27:39 PM
LOL!

Hater!
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 07:45:53 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
LOL!

Hater!


au contrair mon frere,,,you are the one named diablo.  

were i a hater, i would be past the point of fear and into anger which would lead me to the dark side.

diablo means devil.  devils is on the dark side.  

nice try there beelzebuddy.



:cool:
Title: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 26, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Because you used French just proves my point.

You're a hater, holmes, a hater.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: culero on November 26, 2006, 08:46:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
not sure...i don't think so...st. augustine is a pretty long haul from here...i am on the gulf between pensacola and panama city...so unless they have another group that operates here.

thanks culero.

:)


Welcome. There's another outfit in Kissimmee that flies Texans, too, but that's too far for daily dogfights as well, I suppose. Well, where you are there's sure to be folks in the community that pay attention to that kinda stuff - look up some USAF off-duty hangouts and ask around.

Thread hijack - how's that area to live in? Taxes, schools, cost of living, property costs, community culture, etc. The company I work for owns a cluster of properties there (Port St. Joe, Panama City, Santa Rosa Beach, Destin, Fort Walton Beach) so that area is a possible advancement destination for me.

culero (I'm already used to saltwater and hot humid climates ;))
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 08:46:57 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Because you used French just proves my point.

You're a hater, holmes, a hater.


holmes?

(http://members.tripod.com/~jeffsboxing/holmes.jpg)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 26, 2006, 08:49:34 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
(http://members.tripod.com/~jeffsboxing/holmes.jpg)



DENIED!!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 08:59:30 PM
well, i gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed that you weren't some silly white guy trying to speak ghetto.

looks like i was mistaken.  


:(
Title: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 26, 2006, 09:02:25 PM
Hey, if it's cool enough for Jack Black, it's cool enough for me.

Holmes.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 09:25:24 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Hey, if it's cool enough for Jack Black, it's cool enough for me.

Holmes.


and how's that workin out for ya?
Title: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 26, 2006, 09:26:55 PM
Wouldn't you like to know.


;)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 09:37:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
Wouldn't you like to know.


;)


it's what i live for.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 26, 2006, 09:51:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by culero
Welcome. There's another outfit in Kissimmee that flies Texans, too, but that's too far for daily dogfights as well, I suppose. Well, where you are there's sure to be folks in the community that pay attention to that kinda stuff - look up some USAF off-duty hangouts and ask around.

Thread hijack - how's that area to live in? Taxes, schools, cost of living, property costs, community culture, etc. The company I work for owns a cluster of properties there (Port St. Joe, Panama City, Santa Rosa Beach, Destin, Fort Walton Beach) so that area is a possible advancement destination for me.

culero (I'm already used to saltwater and hot humid climates ;))


 

do you work for st. joe corp?  (they own lots and lots of clusters of land here is why i ask. )  

i live in south walton county.

property taxes are somewhat higher than average in most areas and way way high on the gulf side of highway 98.  same in okaloosa county (destin ft.walton beach).  

the culture is tourism for the most part and lots and lots of military on both sides (eglin, herlburt and tyndall) so there is a real transient element to the universe here.  outside of destin where i am there are a bit more constants.

it's not very populated in the off season months.  (we get to go out to all of our favorite restaurants now that it's not crazy...yay)

if you want to lay out on the beach and have a margarita, this is the place to be.  if you want to go to a museum or catch an indi film, well its a bit sparse in that dept.

property values are currently wayyyy overinflated. of course, real estate agents like to to tell me that i am wrong, but they are also all trying to sell something.  only the ones selling are the ones who cater to the uber-rich.

i am told that okaloosa county has good schools and walton county schools are getting better.

if i knew more about what you were looking for, i could probably tell you more about where you might want to look here.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: Halo on November 26, 2006, 11:22:34 PM
Thanks for the overview, JB88.  For years I thought we'd be retiring somewhere in Florida, but I'm too chicken and lazy to cope with hurricanes.  

A friend was at Homestead when Andrew went through.  His home was wiped out as he and his wife cowered in the bathroom.  He sold what was left, bought a travel trailer and drove all the way to Alaska, which as you know has some dandy earthquakes.  

Now he's taking his chances in Vegas.  Helped scare me away from Florida except for enjoying vacations there, like early this year finally driving to Key West via Miami.  Fun trip.

Oh yes, the main thread topic.  Most the Warbirds flights I've seen advertised invariably involve T-6s.  My son enjoyed one in California and they're here in northern Virginia too.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: culero on November 26, 2006, 11:59:18 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
do you work for st. joe corp?  (they own lots and lots of clusters of land here is why i ask. )  

No, Freedom Corporation, which owns several newspapers there.
snip

if i knew more about what you were looking for, i could probably tell you more about where you might want to look here.


If and when, I'll look you up and fill you in more. This is long-range, I have probably a couple of years to wait before changing jobs, and then that area is only one possibility (I could even stay here). But thanks for those details.

culero
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 27, 2006, 12:02:17 AM
happy to help if and when.  

oh yes, freedom newspapers has quite a hold on the industry down here.

interesting aside.  did you know that hunter s. thompson was originally a writer for the paper at eglin AFB?
Title: Q about planes
Post by: culero on November 27, 2006, 12:50:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
happy to help if and when.  

oh yes, freedom newspapers has quite a hold on the industry down here.

interesting aside.  did you know that hunter s. thompson was originally a writer for the paper at eglin AFB?


Gracias.

No, I didn't. That was before the Caribbean, I suppose?

culero
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 27, 2006, 12:53:08 AM
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Originally posted by culero
Gracias.

No, I didn't. That was before the Caribbean, I suppose?

culero


yes.  pre- pretty much everything.
Title: Q about planes
Post by: culero on November 27, 2006, 01:07:39 AM
Another guy I hold in similar regard to Dr. Thompson is William Jennings Bryan. He kept a vacation home just a few miles from my house. He was actually a prominent citizen in local matters. We have a major road named for him.

I see your cultural icon, and call :)

culero
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 27, 2006, 01:14:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by culero
Another guy I hold in similar regard to Dr. Thompson is William Jennings Bryan. He kept a vacation home just a few miles from my house. He was actually a prominent citizen in local matters. We have a major road named for him.

I see your cultural icon, and call :)

culero


lol.

anti-prohibition.  you know that means he was a secret heroin junky right?
Title: Q about planes
Post by: culero on November 27, 2006, 02:18:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
lol.

anti-prohibition.  you know that means he was a secret heroin junky right?


I did say I held him in similar regard to Dr. Thompson :)

culero ;)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: JB88 on November 27, 2006, 02:40:32 AM
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Originally posted by culero
I did say I held him in similar regard to Dr. Thompson :)

culero ;)


riiiight.

:D
Title: Re: Q about planes
Post by: DiabloTX on November 27, 2006, 03:17:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
what kind of planes did they use to train fighter pilots in WW2?


Umm...trainers?  Maybe?

;)
Title: Q about planes
Post by: Airscrew on November 27, 2006, 03:42:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
according to "The front of a North American SNJ-5 Texan and the back end of a Vought BT-13
were used to construct replica Nakajima B3N "Kate" torpedo bomber, N3725G"


A pic from Planes of Fame near the Grand Canyon.  Val replica from Tora, Tora, Tora and Pearl Harbor

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164663464_dscf0098.jpg)

and the plaque for the plane, kinda of large but other wise you probably couldnt read the print ;)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164663499_dscf0099.jpg)