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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Pei on November 27, 2006, 10:30:53 PM
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Iran backs Venezuela car factory
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42364000/jpg/_42364866_afp_ahmad_chavez203.jpg)
Senior Venezuelan and Iranian government officials have opened a joint car plant in central Venezuela.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez inaugurated the factory together with Iran's minister for industry.
Venezuela is currently undergoing a process of industrialisation to make it less dependent on US imports.
from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6190202.stm)
Whatever happened to the Monroe Doctrine anyway?
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I was going to make an unkind crack about Iranian cars, then I realised they're up against the Big 3 ...
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two GREAT countries. Without oil, they might even be more great!
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two great countries led by sponsors of terrorism....
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I was going to ask "Furball, what're you doing biting such bait?", but then I saw above the avatar.
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Originally posted by Scherf
I was going to make an unkind crack about Iranian cars, then I realised they're up against the Big 3 ...
lol
BURN!!!:O
where can i get a calvin, wearing a turban & peeing on a chevy logo sticker
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Originally posted by Debonair
lol
BURN!!!:O
where can i get a calvin, wearing a turban & peeing on a chevy logo sticker
:D
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Originally posted by Pei
Iran backs Venezuela car factory
Whatever happened to the Monroe Doctrine anyway?
Probably went out the window at The Bay of Pigs ;)
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Originally posted by Pei
Iran backs Venezuela car factory
Whatever happened to the Monroe Doctrine anyway?
What does the Monroe Doctrine have to do with a car factory? no different if Japan opens a car factory in Mexico. Besides they'll probably be crappy cars anyway, 5 miles to the gallon and a case of TNT in the trunk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine
The Monroe Doctrine, in 1823, proclaimed the United States' opinion that European powers should no longer colonize the Americas or interfere with the affairs of sovereign nations located in America, such as the United States of America, Mexico, Latin America, and others. The United States planned to stay neutral in wars between European powers and in wars between a European power and its colonies. However, if these latter type of wars were to occur in the Americas, the United States would view such action as hostile toward itself.
The Monroe Doctrine states three major ideas, with one more added by President Theodore Roosevelt. First, it conveys that European countries cannot colonize in any of the Americas: North, Central, or South. Second, it enforces Washington's rule of foreign policy, in which the U.S. will only be involved in European affairs if America's rights are disturbed. Third, the U.S. will consider any attempt at colonization a threat to its national security. Roosevelt added to the doctrine, and summed up his additions with the statement, "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/50.htm
In Monroe's message to Congress on December 2, 1823, he delivered what we have always called the Monroe Doctrine, although in truth it should have been called the Adams Doctrine. Essentially, the United States was informing the powers of the Old World that the American continents were no longer open to European colonization, and that any effort to extend European political influence into the New World would be considered by the United States "as dangerous to our peace and safety." The United States would not interfere in European wars or internal affairs, and expected Europe to stay out of American affairs.
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And one other info for the freedom-fries-fans here:
The iranian cars are licenced copies of french cars - like the Peugeot 405 and 205.
(http://www.farhangsara.com/economy/car.gif)
:)
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Originally posted by Pei
Whatever happened to the Monroe Doctrine anyway?
God will forgive you for being Australian. Leave American History alone, you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
Stick to banning cricket paddles next.
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Let the Bash start !
Originally posted by babek-
And one other info for the freedom-fries-fans here:
The iranian cars are licenced copies of french cars - like the Peugeot 405 and 205.
(http://www.farhangsara.com/economy/car.gif)
:)
fire at will !
btw using a 405 as a basis ... eeekkkk it's horrible :)
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Axis of evil = Iran Venezuela and France?
:noid
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Maybe the oil from Venezuela will be enough for the oili stae of Iran to make them abanon their nuclear energy requirements??
After all, they're both oil states yes?
Never really got it why Iran needs nucular energy.........
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I think they would have better luck with this, it put Yugoslavia on the map :cool:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164744812_yugo_rear.jpg)
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poojoe still making "cars"?
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Originally posted by straffo
btw using a 405 as a basis ... eeekkkk it's horrible :)
Nothing wrong with it. It's the second most undervalued car there is(the first is Citroen BX). Doesn't rust very much, good ride, and good engines especially diesels. Some gasoline models are prone to catching fire though.
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Originally posted by mora
Some gasoline models are prone to catching fire though.
I was mostly thinking of that :)
Btw I own a 406 (407 is planned for next year) so I've nothing against peugeot :)
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i would love to see the look on Hugo's face when hes told. Ok now you must convert to Islam or die.
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Originally posted by Airscrew
I think they would have better luck with this, it put Yugoslavia on the map :cool:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164744812_yugo_rear.jpg)
that thing was an abomination.
and now yugoslavia is off the map:noid :noid :noid :noid
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Just another guy trying to put food on his family's table. As sketchy as their dealings are I dont blame them.
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They're getting the technolgy update and licence for manufacturing older types of French cars!"!"!"!""!"
While this is nothing, well at least they can make their own.
C'mon, I had Ladas (3 of them), - these were USSR copied Fiats...
They worked okay, but the reliability was somewhat...low.
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Originally posted by Airscrew
The Monroe Doctrine, in 1823,...powers should no longer colonize, or interfere with the affairs of sovereign nations.
Good man this President Roosevelt, unfortunately all went to the other
direction today.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
two great countries led by sponsors of terrorism....
Definitely be careful which button you push!
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Originally posted by Airscrew
I think they would have better luck with this, it put Yugoslavia on the map :cool:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164744812_yugo_rear.jpg)
I think I saw one of those once on tv what is it?
:D
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Originally posted by dmf
I think I saw one of those once on tv what is it?
:D
A car
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Originally posted by dmf
I think I saw one of those once on tv what is it?
:D
LeCar
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Originally posted by john9001
LeCar
tell me you're just being funny John...that was a Yugo,...
this is a Le Car
The Renault 5 is a supermini produced by the French automaker Renault in two generations between 1972 and 1996. It was sold in the U.S. branded Le Car in the 1970s and 1980s.
The Renault 5 was first imported to Britain in 1977, and was one of the first French-made cars to achieve real sales success on the British market. In the space of seven years, 216,199 examples of the Renault 5 were sold. Findings by the Auto Express car magazine in August 2006 revealed that the Renault 5 was the fourth most scrapped car ever to be sold in Britain, with just 499 still registered.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164773294_lecar.jpg)
little brother to this piece of trash...I owned one of these in 1983, blue two door. I think the car eventually just disintegrated...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164773953_alliance.jpg)
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That's a car?
What were the top 3 scrapped?
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good question, I think I'll ask my friend Mr Google.
(a slight aside, it just occured to me and resurected a memory, my 5th grade teacher's name was Mr Googler...)
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Originally posted by Airscrew
good question, I think I'll ask my friend Mr Google.
(a slight aside, it just occured to me and resurected a memory, my 5th grade teacher's name was Mr Googler...)
which is odd because it was in fifth grade that i first learned that a google is a one with one hundred zeros after it.
coincidence?
:(
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Top 3 Scrapped cars of Britain
#4 is of course the Le Car
I didnt find #3 yet.
#2
Just how rare the Cortina had become was revealed in August 2006, when a survey conducted by Auto Express identified it as the second most scrapped car ever to appear on British roads. Of the 1,065,682 MKIV and MKV Cortinas registered between 1976 and 1982, just 2,010 were still in working order. It was second only to the Morris Marina, which had ceased production two years before the Cortina.
(I kinda like this one)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164777615_1972fordcortinamk3.jpg)
#1
Morris Marina
Despite its heavy criticism from the media and motoring press, the Morris Marina was a very popular car in Britain and was among the country's best selling cars throughout its production life, peaking at second place – only surpassed by the Ford Cortina – in 1973.
Marina production lasted almost 10 years, and in that time no less than 807,000 were sold across Britain, though it was less popular on export markets.
A survey conducted by Auto Express magazine in August 2006 revealed that just 745 of the 807,000 Marinas sold in Britain are still on the road, making it officially the most-scrapped car ever to be sold in Britain. This was surprising even for a car which had ceased production 26 years earlier.My brother had one of these when I visited him in England in 1983
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164777640_1976morrismarina.jpg)
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HA! my first car ever was a le car.
(many many moons ago)
if i got it going fast enough on a windy day the thing had lift!
good times.
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Originally posted by JB88
HA! my first car ever was a le car.
(many many moons ago)
if i got it going fast enough on a windy day the thing had lift!
good times.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Top 3 Scrapped cars of Britain
#4 is of course the Le Car
I didnt find #3 yet.
#2
Just how rare the Cortina had become was revealed in August 2006, when a survey conducted by Auto Express identified it as the second most scrapped car ever to appear on British roads. Of the 1,065,682 MKIV and MKV Cortinas registered between 1976 and 1982, just 2,010 were still in working order. It was second only to the Morris Marina, which had ceased production two years before the Cortina.
(I kinda like this one)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164777615_1972fordcortinamk3.jpg)
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Morris Marina
Despite its heavy criticism from the media and motoring press, the Morris Marina was a very popular car in Britain and was among the country's best selling cars throughout its production life, peaking at second place – only surpassed by the Ford Cortina – in 1973.
Marina production lasted almost 10 years, and in that time no less than 807,000 were sold across Britain, though it was less popular on export markets.
A survey conducted by Auto Express magazine in August 2006 revealed that just 745 of the 807,000 Marinas sold in Britain are still on the road, making it officially the most-scrapped car ever to be sold in Britain. This was surprising even for a car which had ceased production 26 years earlier.My brother had one of these when I visited him in England in 1983
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164777640_1976morrismarina.jpg)
The Cortina was a good car and were real popular here in NZ before people ditched them in favour of cheap Japanese imports in the early 1990s. At the height of their popularity it seemed that just about every other car on the roads was a Cortina. Ford even built a six cylinder version, they shoe horned the 200ci and 250ci straight sixes under the bonnet, which combined with the Cortinas light weight made them one hell of a V8 killing- factory sleeper. Unless you were up close enough to see the badges about the only way you could tell them apart from the 4 banger Cortinas was by the engine clearancing bonnet bulge or big bore tail pipe. Even better, cause they had the beefy six cylinder drive line and suspension it was easy to drop a 289ci or 302ci V8 into them.
We had plenty of Marinas on the roads but they wernt exactly popular. People bought them mainly because of the limited choices in car makes and models back in those days. It would get you from a to b, but it was bland and boring. Not surprised to see that it's almost gone the way of the dodo in Britain as they are fairly rare here as well.
As for #3 on the list... I reckon it might be a Vauxhall... Chevette or Viva maybe
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i think i had a renault alliance at some point during college. yes, pretty sure.
it was the suck.
threw a rod if i recall correctly.
wow! they still make cars!? havent seen one in ages.
:confused:
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Ok, so let me get this straight;
You admit to having owned a Le Car AND an Alliance both made by Renault.
speaking of being thick.
:O
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ya. why not? i was more invested in paying for school than owning or driving a peter extension module.
ive never known much about cars. havent really cared to. havent really needed to.
if that makes me a whatever, so be it. i can live with that.
different strokes.
;)
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Up here in Iceland, we had USSR Ladas by the thousands, probably because of some fish trade with the USSR, - and yes, - they were very cheap, good on gravel roads, and always started in very cold temperatures.
Fun to drive (soft and long suspension), reasonably powered (1600cc in those days was okay, I once squeezed a Lada up to 170 kph, and did 150 kph on gravel roads!), and then, that was it. They aged badly, and before you knew it they were being scrapped by the thousands. Russian Trawler crew would often buy the wrecks for a couple of Vodkabottles, break them up on their home cruises, and dump the hulls into the sea en route. There are graveyards of those in the N-Atlantic.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Riva.jpeg)
(The 1500 was the worst car I ever had, but fun to drive)
And for laughs:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/DirkvdM_lada_limousine.jpg)
The Limo :D
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Ok, so...errrmmmm....gas or charcoal?
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Ok then, so what are you guys driving now?
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Volvo, then Subaru, auxiliari vehicle is Massey-Ferguson (tractor), but I mostly paddle around on a mountain bike :D
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G35
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Originally posted by JB88
G35
Very nice peter extension module.
Angus, what's your thoughts on the Suburau? I don't know anyone that's owned one.
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Subaru is excellent, - probably some of the best the Japanese brought.
The old 1800 was very reliable, and oddly, I belive the engine was actually designed as an aviation engine.
Then came the Legacy, also reliable and nice to drive, but a bit of the bigger size for my taste.
We have an Impreza, very nice car.
BTW, all are 4x4.
I guess they were not so popular down in Europe due to being somewhat high on the fuel consumption (weight and 4x4 add up a bit), but up here in Iceland they are quite popular for the 4x4, reliability, robustness, and making it good under slippery and snowy conditions.
Best car we ever had, but yet, I loved our Volvo 460...and my old 244....
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Very nice peter extension module.
Angus, what's your thoughts on the Suburau? I don't know anyone that's owned one.
it's what she wanted.
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Originally posted by JB88
i think i had a renault alliance at some point during college. yes, pretty sure.
it was the suck.
threw a rod if i recall correctly.
wow! they still make cars!? havent seen one in ages.
:confused:
I think I bought my Renault Alliance for about $7000 in 82 or 83 when I was stationed at Lackland. The first year I had it I think I had to take it in for warrenty work about 3 times. In Dec 84 PCSd to Mountain Home ID, one of the CV joints went out in northern California on the trip there, cost $1500 plus extra hotel time and towing charges. The next year made a trip to Oregon to see the in-laws, muffler fell off as we were going down the road. 6 months later the altenator died. Then the AC compressor died. Got divorced in 87 and got to keep the car. :rolleyes: Sold it to my youngest sister for $600 in 87, a few months later while she was driving it one of the front wheels fell off :lol
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Ok then, so what are you guys driving now?
2002 Nissan Quest and 1996 Buick Skylark.
since 1977 I've had
1975 Vega GT
1969 Cutlass S convertible
1982 Ford EXP
1983 Renault Alliance
1986 Toyota Corolla GT
1988 Honda Civic
1972 Dodge 3/4 truck
1978 Dodge Aspen station wagon
1986 Plymouth Voyager
1996 Dodge Grand Caravan
1982 europe spec Ford Escort
1983 europe spec Ford Escort
1984 europe spec Mercedes
1984 europe spec BMW 320
1996 Dodge Neon
1996 Mitsubishi Gallant
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most of you, but especially jb88 should not be allowed to vote on anything that has anything to do with cars.
lazs
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My cars from 1998 onwards:
1972 Opel Kadett B
1985 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28
1981 VW Jetta
1980 Ford Fiesta
1986 Honda Civic
1983 Peugeot 305
1989 Renault 19
1991 Ford Escort Express(diesel)
I thought there were more... The youngest was 13 years old when I got it, and for the most expensive one beside the Camaro I paid $1000. The one I liked the most was the Peugeot because of it's soft ride and seats. 6 of those I've scrapped myself.
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That must have been evil-wicked cool to drive that Z-28 around Europe.
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Originally posted by lazs2
most of you, but especially jb88 should not be allowed to vote on anything that has anything to do with cars.
lazs
Unfortunatlly for me what I Want and what I can afford are two different things.
what I could afford was 1996 Buick Skylark
What I Want
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164831191_sschevelle1970red.jpg)
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I have a 69 el camino with a 468 big block and 6 speed... I have spent too much money on it but still not more than most spend on a new mid range car.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
most of you, but especially jb88 should not be allowed to vote on anything that has anything to do with cars.
lazs
once again lasz demonstates that he isn't really serious about individual liberties.
;)
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Hey! I saw a Lecar once when I went with my neighbor to the junk yard
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Originally posted by Airscrew
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1164831191_sschevelle1970red.jpg)
Miss Melba Toast's sister.
:aok
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Originally posted by dmf
Hey! I saw a Lecar once when I went with my neighbor to the junk yard
It was probably 88's. Only person of that bought one.
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You guys just didn't get the right version of the glorious LeCar:
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4462/img4221ek9.jpg)
(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4742/img4212ki6.jpg)
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/871/img4214no8.jpg)
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
It was probably 88's. Only person of that bought one.
only person of that bought one?
:confused:
moot: that's what i'm sayin! lol
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p.s.- when the muffler went out, i used to pull up next to muscle cars and rev the engine while i pulled the emergency brake and rocked back and forth on the clutch and the accelerator. it would make the front end pop up like it had air shocks. in reverse, the rear would pop up.
the hood ornament was an bright red iguana.
yep. good times.
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yup the renault 5 turbo was a tiny monster
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Originally posted by storch
yup the renault 5 turbo was a tiny monster
A POS with a turbo is just a faster POS.
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Even group B POS'.
Pioogott made a similar homologation pos:
(http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200409/kryogen_1094682881_205t16r.jpg)
(http://www.specialstages.com/acatalog/rwspeugeot_web.jpg)
(http://www.cmargentinos.com.ar/secciones/Autos/Peugeot_205/Fotos/205-T16-Ev.jpg)
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i remember when they started racing LeCars, someone made the comment "lecar fall on le roof". :D
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not allowing people who hate cars to vote on matters involving cars IS protecting individual freedom. I gave up on anyone protectiing individual rights.... not gonna happen.. time to screw the other guy before he screws you.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
not allowing people who hate cars to vote on matters involving cars IS protecting individual freedom. I gave up on anyone protectiing individual rights.... not gonna happen.. time to screw the other guy before he screws you.
lazs
he's ghey too?!
:huh
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
A POS with a turbo is just a faster POS.
have you ever driven one?