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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Laurie on November 30, 2006, 02:36:45 PM
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If you take a step back and look at BB posts and threads.
you wil notice the amount of anger and disregard towards others there is now in this game.
It was said new arena set up would stop the 'slum ch.200'
But were people just trying to look at the game through rose tinetd specs. People dont get on it s a fact of life.
But all these new wonder cure changes have just fragmented a once flowing community into non-existense.
like it or not this FAR, FAR, FAR worse than ch.200 ever was.
BB is an ugly place now.
Just 2 cents and a tad lil' more
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:mad: :furious :mad: :furious :mad:
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lol
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Naw,
The bb is the same bb. Just a little more concise and to the point. If you thought you were going to get warm hugs and words of encouragment hear, you will.....................some times. The General area of the bb is just like the late war arenas. Open season baby........yeeaa. (best Austin Powers).;)
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Originally posted by uberhun
Naw,
The bb is the same bb. Just a little more concise and to the point. If you thought you were going to get warm hugs and words of encouragment hear, you will.....................some times. The General area of the bb is just like the late war arenas. Open season baby........yeeaa. (best Austin Powers).;)
But do you ever wonder...How much of what is said in here, influences behavior in the game arenas? People tend to best remember the negatives. I could see someone with a grudge in here, doing something inside the arenas' as a form of revenge. In my opinion, LW Orange is now more susceptible to this. I could see a good furball getting ruined by someone smarting from words uttered irresponsibly in here. We should run the forums like we are actually talking to one another in person...Take everyone in AH, Get them to Grapevine for a CON. See how many people actually talk smack to faces. People would humble really quick.
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like finding our own dark corner to play, you mean stuff like that?
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I see the "Anthropological argument" has spilled over into another thread here that will be locked. Classy! What a point you all make. Yeah, Frode I sink the CV's that a Furball is fighting near. Yeah, I capture undefended bases and claim to "run in the whorde" which is a tactic of the WEAK. You wish.
Get real. I've went to the 2003 Con and it is memorable for me. Between meeting Xbrit, his wife, Curval, Flossy, CAF, KOOL, BFD, Dogfytr, Wax, Vegas, Octavius, fdski, JB42, 73, and many other's. As well as knocking back as much beer as I could find, yeah, I'm such a jerk! :aok
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Originally posted by Laurie
like it or not this FAR, FAR, FAR worse than ch.200 ever was.
If by "worse" you mean "funnier", then I agree
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Karaya - anthrolo-what??? ;)
Laurie: I suspect most folks who fly in AH don't even venture into the BBS.
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
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Hmmm Laurie... do mean like when we say we don't see the strategy in taking undefended fields, and avoiding interaction with other players, and you say it's because we're ignorant?
Is that the kind of thing you mean?
Or maybe you mean to say "this BB is just a playground for all the arsse lickers who feel they are superior to all others and feel they know it all"
What exactly are you trying to say? That more people are acting like you?
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Originally posted by dtango
Karaya - anthrolo-what??? ;)
Laurie: I suspect most folks who fly in AH don't even venture into the BBS.
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
WANGO TANGO!!!!!!! You sneaky little bugger you!
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laurie, you've been here 3 months, so you don't have much of a clue. the changes have made AH a much nicer place, and a more enjoyable game.
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Originally posted by Laurie
But all these new wonder cure changes have just fragmented a once flowing community into non-existense.
For the record i hated furball b4 the new wonder cures.. :aok
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Hasn't it been split for awhile now?
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I see the "Anthropological argument" has spilled over into another thread here that will be locked. Classy! What a point you all make. Yeah, Frode I sink the CV's that a Furball is fighting near. Yeah, I capture undefended bases and claim to "run in the whorde" which is a tactic of the WEAK. You wish.
Get real. I've went to the 2003 Con and it is memorable for me. Between meeting Xbrit, his wife, Curval, Flossy, CAF, KOOL, BFD, Dogfytr, Wax, Vegas, Octavius, fdski, JB42, 73, and many other's. As well as knocking back as much beer as I could find, yeah, I'm such a jerk! :aok
Well, Karaya...when you go into the MA's and fly, do you simply forget about what people say in here, or do you let it influence your fighting?
And, when you went to the con, did you go in with a clean slate(as far as what people who were at the con, and regularly post in here are concerned?) Or, did you not associate with those you knew to flame?
Note: It's not the people that you know to not take a flaming well...It's those you have no knowledge of, that are more likely to do something due to this BBS.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
But do you ever wonder...How much of what is said in here, influences behavior in the game arenas? People tend to best remember the negatives. I could see someone with a grudge in here, doing something inside the arenas' as a form of revenge. In my opinion, LW Orange is now more susceptible to this. I could see a good furball getting ruined by someone smarting from words uttered irresponsibly in here. We should run the forums like we are actually talking to one another in person...Take everyone in AH, Get them to Grapevine for a CON. See how many people actually talk smack to faces. People would humble really quick.
Oh no doubt! People really get offended in here if you do not agree with them.:lol It is really pathetic:rofl Example: You hoed me and my dad is going to beat up your dad stuff all day long in here.:rofl Grown adults gettin so bent out of shape about their cartoon cyber exsistence in here.:furious :mad: But..........Their are some really helpful areas in the bbs, training would be a great example also the tech pages and squad pages. Here it is cut throat.:t :cry People have actually quit because of things said in here:rofl
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Hmmm Laurie... do mean like when we say we don't see the strategy in taking undefended fields, and avoiding interaction with other players, and you say it's because we're ignorant?
Is that the kind of thing you mean?
Or maybe you mean to say "this BB is just a playground for all the arsse lickers who feel they are superior to all others and feel they know it all"
What exactly are you trying to say? That more people are acting like you?
:O :rofl too funny
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You're standing on a crowded bus, surrounded by others like yourself. Then the bus stops suddenly. If you don't have a good hand hold, you go flying forward into other passengers and start a domino effect!
yayyyy
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With respect, you havent been in the game long enough to be talking about who is or isnt split. What, 2 months? Thats just enough time to learn the basics and start to get to know the community of AH. Post again next November.
...and the ch.200 psychotics and BB flamers have been here for a long time. Get used to it. ;)
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Originally posted by Ball
:mad: :furious :mad: :furious :mad:
always someone around to prove the point..... and there you have it. everything laurie said is true.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
laurie, you've been here 3 months, so you don't have much of a clue. the changes have made AH a much nicer place, and a more enjoyable game.
been REGISETRED in BB for 3 months, played game for 11 months.
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What major biggles said is also an example of the unfair prejudice in this BB towards newer members. just because i've been registered for 3 months doesnt mean i havent played the game a lot longer
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Originally posted by Laurie
What major biggles said is also an example of the unfair prejudice in this BB towards newer members. just because i've been registered for 3 months doesnt mean i havent played the game a lot longer
Laurie seriously, from what I can tell the flaming that goes on in here has always been about that same. Also most folks who play don't even venture in here and don't even know what's said in the BBS ....and don't care.
As an example - the 412th has been around AH for 5+ years. We're currently full at 32 members. Only 3 out of the 32 are even active in posting currently. Over the course of the 5 years I'd say that the max we've had active in the BBS is about 4-5 with everyone else not even paying attention to what is said here. I suspect that's pretty representative of the AH population.
Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
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Originally posted by Laurie
What major biggles said is also an example of the unfair prejudice in this BB towards newer members. just because i've been registered for 3 months doesnt mean i havent played the game a lot longer
Laurie:
Even 11 months is pretty short to "know" what the culture is here. I'd say there's nothing different going on at all, especially if you allow for the stresses of major structural change.
This BBS does not GENERATE cultural differences, it expresses them. And if you have ANY experience with internet BBS's you'd have to admit that this one is pretty tame.
Check back...not sure if this was before your time, may have been pretty close to when you started. Dont know if you were lurking and not posting when the original Loose Cannons Alliance started their reign of silliness. (Their leader claimed that they "would change the nature of AH from now on...the day of the individual furballer is gone forever, the game has moved on to organized teamwork....etc, etc)
Anyway, the original LCA and AStone/XCephas triggered a wave of A2A vs capture game rhetoric that at least equals the last few threads -- and probably exceeeded it.
The LCA furor died down, and so will this.
You're way worked up, Laurie, over conflicts that will fade into background chatter very quickly. Time for another "deep cleansing breath" methinks......
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what i don't understand laurie is how you can comment on how fractured and how ugly the BB is, presumably because you claim to dislike these acts.....yet are more than willing to suggest and contribute to this fracturing. a little ironic maybe?
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Someone must not read the BBs too much... things have been divided for a long time now.. haven't you seen the infamous "toolshedders" vs "furballers" threads?
The new arena system is great... if you can't find a fight in 1 arena, you move on to the next. What's wrong with that? "Waaaaaaaaa I can't fly with my squad"; make new friends, meet new wingies it's not that difficult.
It's funny.. everyone wanted to moan and groan about how the orignal MA was killing AH and how 200 was the ruin of the community. HTC came up with a away for those to didn't like La7s and spit16s to fly without them, how to somewhat slow down the hoard, and still provide somewhat of a stable environment for the players, and people STILL aren't happy. Granted there's still a few kinks to be worked out, but give it time. At least 2 weeks :D
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I don't think it's possible to draw conclusions on the state of the game online from solely looking @ the BBS as a relatively small % of the player posts here, and from the sound of it that group of people are the ones that carry a strong opinion on various subjects.
Also I think the strat guys have more to complain about these days than they did before. Under the old system most the complaints where the furballers complaing about the bombers coming and ruining their fun and the bomber drivers defending their gameplay choices, but they were free to do more or less as they pleased in the MA. They impacted the furballs more than the furballs impacted their play. Sure the furballers took country resources, ie players away from their goal, but by and far the battle cry of the furballer was just "leave us alone". With the current set up the players are forced together. The furballer is happy because now he/she has more targets to shoot at, but is otherwise seen his game change very little. Whereas the strat player has seen a dramatic change in what he/she can or can't do online, and we all tend to react to sudden changes with fear and loathing, so of course the tendency is to come here and cry foul and scream bloody murder.
I think the current strat system in the Orange arena is a good experiment and as evidence by posts by HT today needs, and will see some tweaking if we all have a little patience. The game is changing, but we should all ride it out and see where those changes take us. Just because a few bases are actually capturable doesn't mean that attacking the surrounding areas are devoid of strategic value. The new system still allows an interdiction campaign to make it easier to advance the front line in your countries favor. I think there are still a lot of strategic options there we just have to find them.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Well, Karaya...when you go into the MA's and fly, do you simply forget about what people say in here, or do you let it influence your fighting?
And, when you went to the con, did you go in with a clean slate(as far as what people who were at the con, and regularly post in here are concerned?) Or, did you not associate with those you knew to flame?
Note: It's not the people that you know to not take a flaming well...It's those you have no knowledge of, that are more likely to do something due to this BBS.
I ended up barking at someone who became verbally abusive to Bernd (DmdBen). This person was spewing "Bush propoganda and terrorist drivel" to someone who took the time to fly from Germany to participate and mingle. I shut his hole with two sentences, no yelling or cussing. Not ONE PERSON that attended complained, but actually "thanked me" or "supported me".
I appreciate you "backing up your squaddie". I've done the same for people throughout my life Frode, and will continue to do so. If you THINK if I go to con I'd be pissed at anyone you're wrong. Well maybe one person that broke up the 47 RONIN squad a few us were in. But, I wouldn't go right up to him, if that's what you mean.
Class, some have it, some don't and I do.
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I am certain with one thing, the communtiy IS split. its 6 and half a dozen of the other.We're all part of it.
I admit maybe i dont have the experience or greater knowledge of a long termer ,but,
If this is a first impression form someone fairly new to BB. Then its a sad state of affairs. i accept people dont get on, but ive seen some ppl go toooo far in here, i know we all make mistakes but..
All Agree?
P.S. i just got in time for that 'anti AvA' thing, and that was an example of things going too far,
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Originally posted by Laurie
I am certain with one thing, the communtiy IS split. its 6 and half a dozen of the other.We're all part of it.
I admit maybe i dont have the experience or greater knowledge of a long termer ,but,
If this is a first impression form someone fairly new to BB. Then its a sad state of affairs. i accept people dont get on, but ive seen some ppl go toooo far in here, i know we all make mistakes but..
All Agree?
P.S. i just got in time for that 'anti AvA' thing, and that was an example of things going too far,
Nah, it isn't split. The AH BBS is the most comedic forum I attend. This should have a movie modeled after it. It'd go through the roof in sales.
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Originally posted by Laurie
If this is a first impression form someone fairly new to BB. Then its a sad state of affairs. i accept people dont get on, but ive seen some ppl go toooo far in here, i know we all make mistakes but..
All Agree?
No. You've said far worse in the last few days than most of the posters here ever will. While there are some that are equally nasty or worse, most are content to voice their opinions, read the opinions of others, comment, read follow up comments, etc. When you've been around long enough to get and contribute something positive (or at least refrain from the negatives), then you're welcome to comment. In the meantime, if you're just going to insist on calling us ignorant arselickers, then as far as I'm concerned, you can get stuffed.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
No. You've said far worse in the last few days than most of the posters here ever will. While there are some that are equally nasty or worse, most are content to voice their opinions, read the opinions of others, comment, read follow up comments, etc. When you've been around long enough to get and contribute something positive (or at least refrain from the negatives), then you're welcome to comment. In the meantime, if you're just going to insist on calling us ignorant arselickers, then as far as I'm concerned, you can get stuffed.
PwNED ... :O
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I don't think so....here is why
Bomber Squads continue to Bomb
Attack Squads continue to Attack
GV Squads continue to .......GV
Fighter Squads continue to Furball
And Individuals continue to voice Malcontent
I fail to see any split in the AH Community
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CC, Karaya. I know that my last post sounded a little like a personal attack, srry if it came across as one.
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when i say too far i mean 'forming sides against opinoins' as someone else stated in this thread about a grpoup toolshedders formaing a gruop against AvA players, that is too far and kinda lame.
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The community is not split any more than what is was. There are multiple styles of game play possible and that will of course group people into different categories. And this is not such a bad thing.
The BBs are not ugly, there are some that get ugly in some threads and that is unfortunate. Many members make a consorted effort not to cross that line. It's ok to disagree and have different opinions that is what makes the world go round.
There is also a lot of jabbing, tongue in cheek so to speak going on as well.
Personally I think with the latest changes the community will be coming together like never before. :aok
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might aswell get a guy on the keyboard for cumbiah now, geeze. lol
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Done and done LOL :D :aok
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
CC, Karaya. I know that my last post sounded a little like a personal attack, srry if it came across as one.
Absolutely no harm done from you Frode. <> and cya in the Arenas.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Nah, it isn't split. The AH BBS is the most comedic forum I attend. This should have a movie modeled after it. It'd go through the roof in sales.
So true and include rants from 200 : >
As long as HT keeps 200 and bbs around it's all good for me.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
No. You've said far worse in the last few days than most of the posters here ever will. While there are some that are equally nasty or worse, most are content to voice their opinions, read the opinions of others, comment, read follow up comments, etc. When you've been around long enough to get and contribute something positive (or at least refrain from the negatives), then you're welcome to comment. In the meantime, if you're just going to insist on calling us ignorant arselickers, then as far as I'm concerned, you can get stuffed.
w00t!
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I ended up barking at someone who became verbally abusive to Bernd (DmdBen). This person was spewing "Bush propoganda and terrorist drivel" to someone who took the time to fly from Germany to participate and mingle. I shut his hole with two sentences, no yelling or cussing. Not ONE PERSON that attended complained, but actually "thanked me" or "supported me".
I appreciate you "backing up your squaddie". I've done the same for people throughout my life Frode, and will continue to do so. If you THINK if I go to con I'd be pissed at anyone you're wrong. Well maybe one person that broke up the 47 RONIN squad a few us were in. But, I wouldn't go right up to him, if that's what you mean.
Class, some have it, some don't and I do.
TOOT TOOT.........oh i don't need to blow your trumpet, you are doing ok on your own :rolleyes:
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He's right, the community has been split.
Those who take the game seriously...
Those who dont...
And those that can't remember what happened in AH the next morning:aok
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
Someone must not read the BBs too much... things have been divided for a long time now.. haven't you seen the infamous "toolshedders" vs "furballers" threads?
.... :D
I think I must be a "furshedder" .. but I'm pretty sure the rest of you guys are "toolballers":p
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
I think I must be a "furshedder" .. but I'm pretty sure the rest of you guys are "toolballers":p
Anybody else remember that ancient Star Trek episode (ie the Shatner series) where there was an endless war on a planet with folks who had their face coloring split half white and half black? The guys with white on the RIGHT half were hating on the guys with white on the LEFT half...
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Originally posted by Laurie
If you take a step back and look at BB posts and threads.
you wil notice the amount of anger and disregard towards others there is now in this game.
It was said new arena set up would stop the 'slum ch.200'
But were people just trying to look at the game through rose tinetd specs. People dont get on it s a fact of life.
But all these new wonder cure changes have just fragmented a once flowing community into non-existense.
like it or not this FAR, FAR, FAR worse than ch.200 ever was.
BB is an ugly place now.
Just 2 cents and a tad lil' more
You must be new here:rofl