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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1K3 on November 30, 2006, 10:52:45 PM
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The new Citizenship test will go beyond just answering the historical facts. You will be asked to analyse...
That will, no doubt, make it difficult for them to explain complicated concepts related to the US political system in English - a language of which many of the immigrants have little more than a basic command.
I will not be surprised if your own natives can't answer this questions...
Why does the United States have 3 branches of government?
Name 2 rights that are only for US citizens
Name 2 cabinet-level positions
Name 1 important ideo found in the Declaration of Independence
What does the Constitution do?
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I don't even know what an "ideo" is. Where do I hand in my citizenship?
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Why does the United States have 3 branches of government? -
The fourth branch was burned in the War of 1812 by the damned Mexicans
Name 2 rights that are only for US citizens-
The right to arm bears, and the right to not work hard
Name 2 cabinet-level positions-
Missionary and doggy..the rest has to be down at counter level
Name 1 important ideo found in the Declaration of Independence- spam
What does the Constitution do?-
It determines how much power a character has in fantasy role playing games
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:rofl FiLtH
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Why does the United States have 3 branches of government? -
The fourth branch was burned in the War of 1812 by the damned Mexicans
Name 2 rights that are only for US citizens-
The right to arm bears, and the right to not work hard
Name 2 cabinet-level positions-
Missionary and doggy..the rest has to be down at counter level
Name 1 important ideo found in the Declaration of Independence- spam
What does the Constitution do?-
It determines how much power a character has in fantasy role playing games
:rofl
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Why does the United States have 3 branches of government? -
The fourth branch was burned in the War of 1812 by the damned Mexicans
Name 2 rights that are only for US citizens-
The right to arm bears, and the right to not work hard
Name 2 cabinet-level positions-
Missionary and doggy..the rest has to be down at counter level
Name 1 important ideo found in the Declaration of Independence- spam
What does the Constitution do?-
It determines how much power a character has in fantasy role playing games
:aok :rofl
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Funnily enough, while I was back home in the UK a couple of weeks back I saw the UK's citizenship test. Apparently I'm not fit to call myself British.
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Emigrants know more about the US than those of us that were born and raised here, mainly because if were born here, we don't have to take a test. If we had to have a test to be a citizen even though we were born here I'd have to learn another language.
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I never had a problem reading, even up to this day. Honestly, everyone should be required to take one in the US.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Why does the United States have 3 branches of government? -
The fourth branch was burned in the War of 1812 by the damned Mexicans
Name 2 rights that are only for US citizens-
The right to arm bears, and the right to not work hard
Name 2 cabinet-level positions-
Missionary and doggy..the rest has to be down at counter level
Name 1 important ideo found in the Declaration of Independence- spam
What does the Constitution do?-
It determines how much power a character has in fantasy role playing games
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by dmf
Emigrants know more about the US than those of us that were born and raised here, mainly because if were born here, we don't have to take a test. If we had to have a test to be a citizen even though we were born here I'd have to learn another language.
i have tutored emigrants on the test, and yes they passed. :D
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Thats because they actually study the stuff they're supposed to study, did I ever study in High school or middle school? Yea ok sure I did. Just not what I was supposed to study. Who really cares about govt except the suit wearing Republicans and Democrats?
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I cant answer half of that, I feel pretty stupid, so I prepose a newer & better test. All immigrants must quote and/or play the first minuet of "The Immigrant Song" by Led Zeppelin. PROBLEM SOLVED. :D
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Originally posted by dmf
Emigrants know more about the US than those of us that were born and raised here, mainly because if were born here, we don't have to take a test. If we had to have a test to be a citizen even though we were born here I'd have to learn another language.
Sadly, there was a time when all students were required to take a course on the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, the Preamble, and the Bill of Rights and pass it! The words contianed within the Preamble were read, discussed, and every effort was made to insure those words were understood. This was done with nearly every word contained there in! Even why it was believed certain words were included rather then other words that had a similar meaning. This too was done with the Declaration of Independence.
If my understanding is correct this is no longer the case. In fact the teaching establishment in this country appears to be doing it's best to insure that few know or understand their rights. The Preamble is rarely seen much less discussed.
Why the quatering of troops was singled out makes little sense to many now.
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Originally posted by dmf
Thats because they actually study the stuff they're supposed to study, did I ever study in High school or middle school? Yea ok sure I did. Just not what I was supposed to study. Who really cares about govt except the suit wearing Republicans and Democrats?
Students today ARE getting instruction in Govt. usually it's in a class called Social Studies. It's widely considered by the students to be the most boring class in the school. It's taken and passed as teachers are under instruction to minimize the failure rates for the school. It's ignored by the student as in their limited experiance they do not see the relevence to them. That which is not the currrent fashion, rap song, car, hairstyle etc.etc. is not important to them because they KNOW they will be passed on to the next grade. Unfortunately it's the parents that have the biggest role in determining whether their little darlings actually learn something and they are frequently doing something more important to them than making sure the kids do their homework and study.
Classes on the Federal Govt. and State Govt. to include the constitutions for each are given in AZ. in the middle school level. "Refresher" classes are given in high school as the material is covered partially in the other Social Studies and history classes. It's basically a situation where you can take the horse to water but you can't make them drink. or more to the point, you can seat the kid in school, but you can't make them learn if they don't want to.
This is a wonderful example of the concern for school kids regarding govt. and history. Who really cares about govt except the suit wearing Republicans and Democrats? If youcan't be bothered to care why should your kids? I'm not just picking on your DMF, you just provided the example.
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We didn't study it that much in high school, I remember Mr Biel talking about all of that in one block.
I think it has to do with separation of church and state, some black suit wearing guys probably figures that if they do away with one, they better do away with the other too before another anti pledge of allegiance man starts his crap.
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DMF - the least you know, the worse your odds.
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Originally posted by dmf
Emigrants know more about the US than those of us that were born and raised here, mainly because if were born here, we don't have to take a test. If we had to have a test to be a citizen even though we were born here I'd have to learn another language.
Just for grins and giggles you might want to look up how to spell immigrant ;)
It comes from the word "immigrate" which essentially means, as stated by dictionary .com:
–verb (used without object) 1. to come to a country of which one is not a native, usually for permanent residence.
2. to pass or come into a new habitat or place, as an organism.
–verb (used with object) 3. to introduce as settlers: to immigrate cheap labor.
Like you mentioned though, you might want to learn another language
:D
Mark
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I remember Social Studies, I had one last year (in high school.) We had a cool teacher, so no one learned a thing. I would bet $50 over 3/4 the school wouldn't qualify, even without the new added bit. I once convinced a girl that Berlin was the capital of Europe, because I showed her a WWII map and showed her how big Germany was, therefore it must be the most importent, also in Europe they use the word "countries" like we use "states," and thats why the "states" were so small. So... ya, good americans they would (and do) not make.
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Originally posted by dmf
We didn't study it that much in high school, I remember Mr Biel talking about all of that in one block.
I think it has to do with separation of church and state, some black suit wearing guys probably figures that if they do away with one, they better do away with the other too before another anti pledge of allegiance man starts his crap.
HUH?????????????
Seperation of church and state? There is a HUGH amount more in those documents then just seperation of church and state!
Might wanna read em! Especially the Preamble!
And you might want to read up on WHY no quatering of troops was a part of the Bill of Rights!
Things were a mess back then!
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Just for grins and giggles you might want to look up how to spell immigrant ;)
It comes from the word "immigrate" which essentially means, as stated by dictionary .com:
–verb (used without object) 1. to come to a country of which one is not a native, usually for permanent residence.
2. to pass or come into a new habitat or place, as an organism.
–verb (used with object) 3. to introduce as settlers: to immigrate cheap labor.
Like you mentioned though, you might want to learn another language
:D
Mark
Hey blame the spellcheck not me LOL
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Originally posted by wrag
HUH?????????????
Seperation of church and state? There is a HUGH amount more in those documents then just seperation of church and state!
Might wanna read em! Especially the Preamble!
And you might want to read up on WHY no quatering of troops was a part of the Bill of Rights!
Things were a mess back then!
I know why theres no quartering of troops, I also know why we have the right to keep and bear arms, I've read the preamble to the US constitution, and things are more of a mess now then they were back then.
My point with my post was that we didn't study it in high school, we actually spent more time on why Japan bombed pearl harbor, and why we went into Vietnam, then anything about US govt or how it works.
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Originally posted by wrag
HUH?????????????
Seperation of church and state? There is a HUGH amount more in those documents then just seperation of church and state!
It would be real cool if there was a document of the seperation of church and state to begin with LMAO
If there was
It would probably hidden along with the other documents giving oversensative people the right to not be offended
And Welfare milkers the right to entitlement of free money for doing nothing
;)
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Originally posted by wrag
If my understanding is correct this is no longer the case. In fact the teaching establishment in this country appears to be doing it's best to insure that few know or understand their rights. The Preamble is rarely seen much less discussed.
How about instead of knocking the teachers you knock the idiots who figured that teaching a test would be the best way for no child to be left behind and that kids should completely concentrate on math and science to the exclusion of all else?
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Why does the United States have 3 branches of government?
To maintain a system of "checks and balances" to insure no one part of the government has absolute control --IE prevent abuse of power. AKA "separation of powers".
Name 2 rights that are only for US citizens
The right to run for US office.
The right to vote.
Name 2 cabinet-level positions
Attorney General
Secretary of State
Name 1 important ideo found in the Declaration of Independence
Right to abolish the government if it threatens the natural rights of the people.
What does the Constitution do?
Protects the basic rights of Americans.
Regards,
Sun
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Originally posted by CAF51
I cant answer half of that, I feel pretty stupid, so I prepose a newer & better test. All immigrants must quote and/or play the first minuet of "The Immigrant Song" by Led Zeppelin. PROBLEM SOLVED. :D
Somehow I doubt Led Zeppelin ever did a minuet.