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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TalonX on December 09, 2006, 12:39:07 PM
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If you aren't watching FIGHTERS on History Channel on Friday nights (10 ET), you are missing out. It's well worth watching, or recording. Awesome stuff and informative.
Interestingly enough, I have seen two separate shows, in different eras, where the head on was a TACTICAL move. On a recent show, it was a tactic used by the F4F pilots against the Zero. Although the zero had cannon, the 6 fifties chewed it up for the obvious reason of lack of armament. The F4F could take the HO exchange and win. (This may not be the case in AH).
In any event, the endless crying about the HO needs to stop....the next step will be, "You DWEEB! You did a rolling scissors! Man, get a life!"
:lol
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L0L I thought I was the only person that advertises that show in the MA...i watched it last night with a big *** sandwich, my favourite chair, and while i was AFK hearing Rooks Bombing my base
:D
ITs good stuff....
As for the Whining...i dont care much about it, it gets comical after a while...:lol I Ho whenever I have a shot, unless im in the DA...
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I HO too but I must say that the americans did it because their aircraft was outclassed in everything but armorment. In europe where a/c were on more equal terms the HO was a lot rarer. But yeah, I luv to HO too, fun to hear people cry!
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I think the show has effected the game.
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The F6F episode was very disapointing to me! Not ONE ho!!!! I did laugh really hard when the zeke's rope didn't work. I can hear the Japanese pilots now F*&# american Neewbs flying over modeled F6F-3s.:p
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What I've found funny is the lame way some people have mentioned this show. They'll spew what little information they learn and promptly come into the Arenas and preach "said info". Whereas, they could have already known the "said info" had they opened a book.
Keep the gangbang going.
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Originally posted by parin
The F6F episode was very disapointing to me! Not ONE ho!!!! I did laugh really hard when the zeke's rope didn't work. I can hear the Japanese pilots now F*&# american Neewbs flying over modeled F6F-3s.:p
L0L i said a big "AHHHAAAAAAA!!!!"
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there will always be those who feel they must chatter on 200 each and every
time they get shot down.
my personal favorite is something along these lines:
" you suck you unskilled talentless dweeb".
to me its seem like they are admitting on 200 that they are even
less skilled than a "talentless unskilled dweeb". :rofl
as far as the ho goes i'm pretty much sick of hearing about it. for the most part i can avoid the ho if i am so inclined and i'm a "talentless unskilled dweeb".
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Originally posted by soupcan
there will always be those who feel they must chatter on 200 each and every
time they get shot down.
my personal favorite is something along these lines:
" you suck you unskilled talentless dweeb".
to me its seem like they are admitting on 200 that they are even
less skilled than a "talentless unskilled dweeb". :rofl
as far as the ho goes i'm pretty much sick of hearing about it. for the most part i can avoid the ho if i am so inclined and i'm a "talentless unskilled dweeb".
I've often thought the same thing. If they kept their mouths shut and fingers off the keyboard, nobody would even know they'd gotten killed. Seems like some people feel the need to post a public excuse every time they die. Maybe it's some type of psychological coping mechanism . . . .
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Got my DVR set to record all new issues :) Great program.
Amazing how many HO's I've seen in the few programs I have watched :)
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I was in the Blue arena one night and HO'd a FW190A4. They guy tuned to me on vox and barraged me with obsenities. Then he kept PMing me on text until I finally had to report the dweeb. I hadn't actually been aware of the HO debate before this. I alway's HO'd given the option and won 8 out of 10 times. Since then I've been more aware of it and have refrained somewhat. I've given the enemy the benefit of the doubt but 8 out of 10 times they open up on me, guns blazing. It's easy enough to avoid their HO shots so I still don't get the big fuss. Last night I was in a Spit 16 and met another Spit coming straight at me. Not sure if he would HO or not I fired a very very short burst as a warning to him. Unfortunately, I hit his oil line and may have even given him a pilot wound.
I always thought that the best way to stay alive, and that the point of ariel combat was to eliminate as many of your enemys as possible, as quickly and efficiently as possible. This includes, HO's, Cherry picking, vulching and whatever other tactic accomplished this goal.
That brings me to one last question. When is a HO a HO? Only on the merge? What about once you've been engaged for a while and find yourself meeting head on? What about when you're outnumbered and a HO presents itself in the furball?
I think I'll just go back to dispatching my threats as quickly and efficiently as I can and let them cry if they want. Personally, I'd examine what I did wrong and try to correct it next time out.
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If you can shoot down a bad guy, shoot him down. There is not honor in second place :)
Think someone else said that, but damnd if I know whom :)
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
What I've found funny is the lame way some people have mentioned this show. They'll spew what little information they learn and promptly come into the Arenas and preach "said info". Whereas, they could have already known the "said info" had they opened a book.
Keep the gangbang going.
yep, and if they had researched the correct books, they would have found out that probably 99% of "said tv show info" is completely off or bass ackwards
and FTDEEP sums it up pretty much to the crosshair, it has affected the game play, in as much that since a tv show says/shows HO ( head on attacks/shots) was used as a tactic, so the greenhorns think that there is no harm/foul in doing same in game, and besides it takes no effort to exercise that index finger muscle to pull the trigger , you don't have to know SA, E management, BFM's, ACM manuevering practices, just know how to point and pull that index finger muscle, and then claim, "Hey I saw it on the history channel, so it is true!!!!"
but they do not realize that anyone can HO, but everyone can not exhibit the knowledge or practice of working angles via E management and using SA to gain a behind the 3-9 line guns solution, and this is what it was all about in the WW2 flight sim beginning.....er so I had witness of........
oops, then came the valley of the dweebs........can't leave that part out, that's where the split in opinions started ( jus kiddn )
but go ahead, if ya kill me with a HO shot, I will just say " WTG HOboy !"
you did come out the victor, so you deserve the acknowledgement :D
but if you want to rise above the anyone can do it level and advance your ability, then ask some people for help to show you how to get there, and I promise you, you will find a neverending new enjoyment of the game!!! you will only go as far as you push yourself, but most will not push anything except that HO attempt ;)
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I don't HO, I PIMP!!
:D
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I found that those shows are definitely not giving oll the info. The HO was used in the pacific for one main reason, the tactic that the americans were drilled on is never turn with the jap planes. Also they were warned of ev en draining any E whatsoever because the american birds accelerated like a fat woman on the way to the gym! So, if a japanese plane came in front of their windscreen they pulled the trigger. It definitely was not taught as a tactic to look for or seek out, but one to do as last resort to turning with jap fighters.:aok
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Those that whine about the head-on are those who really honestly DO feel above it, yet haven't reached the level to aways avoid it and turn it against the attacker.
Meanwhile....
In "War in the Pacific", it's late feb 42, the Phillipines haven't fallen yet, Clarke field is holding strong.
The japanse have taken Rabaul but their resupply is slow, I sink a couple maru class cargo ships every day with subs & my 4 CVs (too bad 5 get through). I've got Hendeson built up with 3 heavy bomber groups ready to hit it, but they just won't fly yet. Gotta keep the Betty's grounded.
Kido Butai wreaked havoc around Java & Borneo and I think is rtb tokyo, the dutch cannot stop base captues but the T1V's get a lot of torp hits, cool plane. Palembang still holds.
AVG retreated to Imphal as Mandalay fell last week, top US ace flys AVG with 22 kills, next best is 8.
Already grabbed Tarawa back from the japanese but building fields up will take months before any thought of advance in Gilbert & Marshall Islands.
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Originally posted by TalonX
If you aren't watching FIGHTERS on History Channel on Friday nights (10 ET), you are missing out. It's well worth watching, or recording. Awesome stuff and informative.
Interestingly enough, I have seen two separate shows, in different eras, where the head on was a TACTICAL move. On a recent show, it was a tactic used by the F4F pilots against the Zero. Although the zero had cannon, the 6 fifties chewed it up for the obvious reason of lack of armament. The F4F could take the HO exchange and win. (This may not be the case in AH).
In any event, the endless crying about the HO needs to stop....the next step will be, "You DWEEB! You did a rolling scissors! Man, get a life!"
:lol
You missed the point. The "whine" is about having to put up with multitudes of dweebs who can't or won't, offer some semblance of good "gaming" (ie: a fight) without immediately resorting to a "HO", putting both at risk of severe damage and/or a collision. They aren't doing A N Y T H I N G tactical in a typical engagement other than lusting after a kill... whether it's "tactically" wise or not. Yes, the head-on IS a tactically advantageous maneuver IF it makes sense... remove the tactical and all you have is a skill-less wonder that belongs somewhere a little less mentally challenging (or doesn't take so long to GET to a fight)... ya know, like... Quake.
No... it certainly does not take two to ho when you have boat-loads of clowns as described above running around.
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Originally posted by Tumor
You missed the point. The "whine" is about having ..
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Tumor, get outta my cone of fire!!! [re:above]
Meanwhile....
In "War in the Pacific"
Major update!!!!
5thBG, 9thBG & 39thBG fly 125 B-17s & B24s heavy out of Henderson bound for Rabaul and meet up with 20 A6M3s... Flak was considerable, 7 zeros downed for 20 bombers damaged and 3 lost... many airfield hits & 8 betty's destroyed on the ground, yeee-haw
CVs now sailing for San Francisco for plane replacements.
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Im not sure why this keeps coming up but for the 100,000,000 time:
HOing in real life (yes it was used) still ran you the risk < thats the term, risk to your LIFE. So it was not used lightly. Dying is a permanent condition.
HOing in the MA? risk? none. Gee I got killed , "N" button, cool, I got a new plane, start engine and go.
Ya think maybe there is a difference?
Just a bit?
I say this as somebody who gets HOed as regularily as anybody else, and its part of the game, im just pointing out the flaw with the "gee whiz they used it in WW2" crowd that always wants to crow about it, like they just discovered some well kept secret.
In the meantime, HO away, its the MA. ;)
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hoing is just part of the game. dweeby maybe, but only if you consider yourself a non-dweeb....even though your flying a cartoon airplane, online. bunch-o-dweebs:)