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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: chaingun on December 10, 2006, 10:58:34 AM
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heyas guys:), i didnt know of these views, in the il2s, i usually have a gunner w/ me to help w/ boggies on my 6 , VILKAS is my gunner 90 % of the time and thats the way i flyem, flying in the f3,f4 mode got me sick lastnite lol, and yes the PMs, continue w/ all the good insults:( to those ive flown aginst
those who dilslike :( I WUBS U ALL Joey Kimchee power: muwhahaha
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why does IL2 have f3 mode and Mosquito does not?
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Originally posted by Ball
why does IL2 have f3 mode and Mosquito does not?
Why are you asking here?
When you should prolly send a email to Hitech and ask him directly since he is one of 2 ppl who are actually qualified to answer this
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
Why are you asking here?
When you should prolly send a email to Hitech and ask him directly since he is one of 2 ppl who are actually qualified to answer this
i am not really asking, more just bringing it to the attention of others. i know that if i asked HTC it is unlikely i would get an answer anyway.
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IL-2's a attacker/bomber.
Mossie's a fighter/bomber.
Sorry, no F3 for fighters.
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IL-2's are not bombers. They are tanks with freak'n wings!
:D
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Originally posted by Kweassa
IL-2's a attacker/bomber.
Mossie's a fighter/bomber.
Sorry, no F3 for fighters.
That's only a matter of old AH definitions. A20, IL2 are bombers and spawn from BH. Mosquito is a fighter/bomber that spawns out of FH. Still, the models we have are designed for quite similar tasks. They all have a crew of 2, no bomb sights and IMO non should have the F3 view.
For level bombers, I see a point in enabling F3 as to simulate the advantage of multi-crew in scanning the skies. For an ACM bird this eliminates the restrictions of cockpit view, which is an important issue - both in sim and historically. I'd add the dive bombers to the no-F3 list (D3A, SBD, stuka).
The F3 view should have a different criteria than "spawns out of BH". Maybe require a level bomb-sight?
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Originally posted by bozon
The F3 view should have a different criteria than "spawns out of BH". Maybe require a level bomb-sight?
yup
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GHI will get very mad at you if you take his F3 mode away from him. He has got the IL2 F3 mode with red dot modified gunsight down pat, LOL!!! It is amazing how well he flies and shoots that thing while in F3 external view mode.
One change i would like to see is that guns are disabled while in F3 external view mode. Force the virtual pilot back into the pilots seat when he is firing his guns at least. Firing guns in a IL2 when in external mode makes the plane too much of an offensive weapon. Again i am sure GHI will not like this sugestion for he truely has the technique matered!!!!!
:rofl
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I will shoot you down Chain.....I'll even let Helm do it a couple of times, normally I don't share my kills with him, just use him as bait.
Btw, miss flying with you and your chatty self :)
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Wow! We've reached new heights in whining when you want the IL-2 penalized because you can't cope with a fat, slow climbing, poor turning tub....
The IL-2 pilot can't see diddly-squat to the rear. That's why they had a rear gunner, who would inform the pilot of what he couldn't see.
In terms of performance, the IL-2 is at the bottom of the heap. SBDs eat them for lunch.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Widewing
In terms of performance, the IL-2 is at the bottom of the heap. SBDs eat them for lunch.
That is still no excuse for F3 view. My comment is not IL2 specific and I explicitly mentioned the other planes that should not have the F3 view: D3A, SBD, Stuka, A20. Maybe there are a few more I forgot.
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Originally posted by Ball
why does IL2 have f3 mode and Mosquito does not?
Cause it has a gunner
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
IL-2's are not bombers. They are tanks with freak'n wings!
:D
They fly like tanks.
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there should be NO F3 view in any of the online arenas. Just end it.
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
Cause it has a gunner
110 has a gunner, no F3 view.
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Originally posted by richard_rds
One change i would like to see is that guns are disabled while in F3 external view mode. Force the virtual pilot back into the pilots seat when he is firing his guns at least.
I'd go with that :aok , also disable bomb drops from F3
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F3 mode should only be given to aircraft with formations.
no formation, or formation aircraft shot down = no f3 mode.
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Originally posted by Airscrew
110 has a gunner, no F3 view.
He was asking about the Vulchito not the HO-110. :lol
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Originally posted by BugsBunny
He was asking about the Vulchito not the HO-110. :lol
Oh I understand that, I'm saying your answer is not logical..
Il-2 has F3 view because it has a gunner
Mossie does not have F3 view because it does not have a gunner.
the HO-matic 110 does not have an F3 view but it does have a gunner
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Oh I understand that, I'm saying your answer is not logical..
Il-2 has F3 view because it has a gunner
Mossie does not have F3 view because it does not have a gunner.
the HO-matic 110 does not have an F3 view but it does have a gunner
Yeah, for some reason i thought you could not join a 110 as a gunner. prolly wrong.
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Originally posted by Widewing
Wow! We've reached new heights in whining when you want the IL-2 penalized because you can't cope with a fat, slow climbing, poor turning tub....
The IL-2 pilot can't see diddly-squat to the rear. That's why they had a rear gunner, who would inform the pilot of what he couldn't see.
In terms of performance, the IL-2 is at the bottom of the heap. SBDs eat them for lunch.
My regards,
Widewing
Yep... Just the other day I shot down two LTAR's in IL2's whilst flying a fully loaded (2x100lb and 1x1000lb) SBD.... Easy pickings
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Oh I understand that, I'm saying your answer is not logical..
Il-2 has F3 view because it has a gunner
Mossie does not have F3 view because it does not have a gunner.
the HO-matic 110 does not have an F3 view but it does have a gunner
C-47 has f3 view.... because.... errr....
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Cause it has 10 l337 gunnahz shootingz out of teh windows at teh elgay 7's zomg!
:O
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Originally posted by Stang
Cause it has 10 l337 gunnahz shootingz out of teh windows at teh elgay 7's zomg!
:O
oh fer sure, doin the driveby thing in the C-47, just roll down the windowz
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Originally posted by Yeager
there should be NO F3 view in any of the online arenas. Just end it.
Not to specifically use your post as an example, but to address the general whining....
No one has yet to give any reason why the F3 view is a problem, beyond getting killed by least performing aircraft in the game. Moreover, if that is the only reason that can be named, shame on them for being that sucky!
I said it before, just in case it was missed... The IL-2 has NO rear vision to speak of. So, because some pilots can't seem to defeat a cannon-wielding coal barge, they want to make the pilots fly half-blind.... LOLOLOL
My regards,
Widewing