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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: USRanger on December 10, 2006, 04:45:35 PM
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Though I think the idea of having players stuck "in queue" or forced to switch sides is a horrible idea in my opinion, I'll try to be constructive.(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8928/scratchchinjv2.gif) (http://imageshack.us) Here's my idea. How about letting players that are stuck "in queue" have the option of being a gunner, whether field or buff. You don't get points for being a field gunner anyway (not sure about in buffs, but I'm sure it could be coded that way). They also shouldn't get their name in lights for landing multiple kills while in their queued player status. In effect, it would give players that are waiting something to do, without getting credit for their kills. They would still be contributing while not getting the perks (literal and figurative) out of it. Maybe players in queue could control the auto-acks. That would be fun. Heck, I'd stay in queue just to be a town ack, waiting to blast the first set of jabos diving in on my town! Opinions?
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Greetings,
How about a poker game in the Lobby to while away the time while waiting!
:aok
Regards,
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Free pron while in limbo...
:aok
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penaeus_vannamei_01.jpg
:noid
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Will we know what country needs the most players? If so, a squad can change to that country and stay together.
I commented about being married to a chess piece in another post. Get over it. Just go to the light...... :)
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Originally posted by USRanger
Though I think the idea of having players stuck "in queue" or forced to switch sides is a horrible idea in my opinion, I'll try to be constructive.(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8928/scratchchinjv2.gif) (http://imageshack.us) Here's my idea. How about letting players that are stuck "in queue" have the option of being a gunner, whether field or buff. You don't get points for being a field gunner anyway (not sure about in buffs, but I'm sure it could be coded that way). They also shouldn't get their name in lights for landing multiple kills while in their queued player status. In effect, it would give players that are waiting something to do, without getting credit for their kills. They would still be contributing while not getting the perks (literal and figurative) out of it. Maybe players in queue could control the auto-acks. That would be fun. Heck, I'd stay in queue just to be a town ack, waiting to blast the first set of jabos diving in on my town! Opinions?
Not a bad idea Ranger. :aok
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Can we please have that old 60's porn film music
that my ISP has when i try to call them
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poker sounds good , we could bet our perk points. :D
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How about stop spending $15 a month to do absolutely nothing.
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Originally posted by USRanger
Though I think the idea of having players stuck "in queue" or forced to switch sides is a horrible idea in my opinion, I'll try to be constructive
If the community had addressed this issue themselves, HiTech would have never been forced to implement this.
So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.
ack-ack
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hey wait !!!! lets put the old MA in the lobby!!
it will give us something to do for the next couple years.:D
your buddy,
Boner
official "member" of AH bb s.
public relations officer for Boner
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If the community had addressed this issue themselves, HiTech would have never been forced to implement this.
So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.
ack-ack
we all know its all "our" fault!! you are absolutley correct sir!!!
you are indeed ,very perceptive sir!! we have all been very very naughty!!
woefully yours,
Boner
an officially "BAD" member of the AH bbs
a poor excuse for a public relations officer for sorrowful Boner.!!:( :(
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holy chit!!!!!!! i,m a senior "member" now!!!!
that viagra really works!!!!!!
feeling large :D ,
Boner!!
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Originally posted by Dantoo
How about stop spending $15 a month to do absolutely nothing.
Feel free to leave, HT is not holding a gun to your head to make you play.
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grits the whole idea of the changes (no matter how missguided) is to keep the players happy and keep them here and to get new players, not to chase players away.
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So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.-
Ack Ack
Well, first of all genius, I never said any of that, so don't eeeeven put any crap you spill in quotations. I was putting forth a constructive idea, so go flame your troll crap elsewhere.
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John,
I agree, and I think HT is on the right track.
If Dantoo is that unhappy, he should just leave and stop *****ing about it. Dont post a "suicide note" on the BBS, dont throw any bombs at HT, just stop paying and leave.
Of course, the percentage of people who threaten to quit and then actually follow through with that threat is pretty small I'd bet. These kind of hollow threats are not about the game or how HT runs it, its about "I'm going to stamp my feet and hold my breath until I get what I want!!".
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No one has even tried the new setup yet, and they're already threatening to quit or offering to reinvent the wheel. Shouldn't you at least try the new setup first?
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
There was no 'problem' before
Correction. That is now the nuttiest statement to date on the BBS.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
Will Rogers said it best: "If is aint broke, don't fix it."
Amen, my brotha!
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this STARTED as a post for ideas for guys waiting in lobby or whatever.
then was brutally abducted and turned into another " vocal minority " flame fest!!
congratulations boys!!!:aok ( and i use that term literally)
you never let these boards down. always there with some sharp wit,
and intelligent comments to add to anything and everything!!!
WTG!!!!:aok
Boner
official "member" of the AH bb s.
public relations officer for Boner
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lets get back to playing poker for perk points.
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Originally posted by john9001
lets get back to playing poker for perk points.
now you,re talkin my language!!!!!:cool:
nothin up my sleeve,
Boner
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Originally posted by 1Boner
this STARTED as a post for ideas for guys waiting in lobby or whatever.
then was brutally abducted and turned into another " vocal minority " flame fest!!
congratulations boys!!!:aok ( and i use that term literally)
you never let these boards down. always there with some sharp wit,
and intelligent comments to add to anything and everything!!!
WTG!!!!:aok
Boner
official "member" of the AH bb s.
public relations officer for Boner
You're right about it getting off topic... I should have ignored the post i read... deleting mine, ack-ack drew me into that one.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
this STARTED as a post for ideas for guys waiting in lobby or whatever.
then was brutally abducted and turned into another " vocal minority " flame fest!!
Um...er...1Boner? We haven't decided who the "vocal minority" is yet.
I seem to recall we've had this discussion before :)
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
No one has even tried the new setup yet, and they're already threatening to quit or offering to reinvent the wheel. Shouldn't you at least try the new setup first?
That would be a first :D
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Um...er...1Boner? We haven't decided who the "vocal minority" is yet.
I seem to recall we've had this discussion before :)
That doesn't negate the other things he said about a thread that started out constructive being hijacked by negativity. What does it matter what label is given to the hijackers?
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Originally posted by Dantoo
How about stop spending $15 a month to do absolutely nothing.
nice, but how about spending $0 a month to do absolutely something.
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Originally posted by Donzo
That doesn't negate the other things he said about a thread that started out constructive being hijacked by negativity. What does it matter what label is given to the hijackers?
I agree Donzo, we should not call Dantoo names for hijacking this thread with negativity.
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Originally posted by Dantoo
How about stop spending $15 a month to do absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by lagger86
nice, but how about spending $0 a month to do absolutely something.
Or, something to do absolutely nothing while spending $0
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was another hijack in regards to ack ack's post i deleted it tho sorry
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Originally posted by Grits
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH..........
Of course, the percentage of people who threaten to quit and then actually follow through with that threat is pretty small I'd bet. These kind of hollow threats are not about the game or how HT runs it, its about "I'm going to stamp my feet and hold my breath until I get what I want!!".
Dont leave yourself out......Blaming only Dantoo.....
BTW....
Did you forget that was how the "new and improved orange furballs r Us arena" came to be.....
Glass houses................
Poker sounds good.............
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Originally posted by sgt203
Dont leave yourself out......Blaming only Dantoo.....
BTW....
Did you forget that was how the "new and improved orange furballs r Us arena" came to be.....
Glass houses................
Poker sounds good.............
When did I stamp my feet and threaten to quit if HT did do what I want?
What did I have to do with any of the changes?
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Originally posted by USRanger
Well, first of all genius, I never said any of that, so don't eeeeven put any crap you spill in quotations. I was putting forth a constructive idea, so go flame your troll crap elsewhere.
Truth hurts doesn't it? You might cover your ears so you don't have to hear it but it doesn't change the facts.
ack-ack
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sorry again for the hijack but Ack-Ack and his high horse need to be addressed.
what is this blase propaganda that the people with your game play style have been posting
If the community had addressed this issue themselves, HiTech would have never been forced to implement this.
So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.
this is a completely baseless statement. and should be translated as such:
hahaha HT has undone what he had orignially intended and now you have to play the way i do GO ME and by blaming the "community" i get to make blanket critical accusations with out being in danger of getting called out
you act as if the new changes are some type of punishment for the evil wrong doings of the nameless faceless horde of country loving n00bs.
where are you getting any information to show that OPINION of your too be true? both of your posts thus far have been negative pointless post because you feel like HT sided with the short sighted players in the game when he hasn't.
Truth hurts doesn't it? You might cover your ears so you don't have to hear it but it doesn't change the facts.
facts where are your facts? where is the proof that your posts have any merit at all?
you dont have any. you just came barging in on a legitimate(all tho personally i think that perkie poker is a bit a of a stretch for a valid idea)thread and proclaimed victory against the BOPs in the name of your almighty Cod. the end of your ersonal holy war is in sight so you feel the need for unwarranted negative one liners in the wrong threads.
like ranger said take it somewhere else cause it aint welcome in this thread
now back to the topic at hand.
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Originally posted by jhookt
sorry again for the hijack but Ack-Ack and his high horse need to be addressed.
what is this blase propaganda that the people with your game play style have been posting
If the community had addressed this issue themselves, HiTech would have never been forced to implement this.
So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.
this is a completely baseless statement. and should be translated as such:
hahaha HT has undone what he had orignially intended and now you have to play the way i do GO ME and by blaming the "community" i get to make blanket critical accusations with out being in danger of getting called out
you act as if the new changes are some type of punishment for the evil wrong doings of the nameless faceless horde of country loving n00bs.
where are you getting any information to show that OPINION of your too be true? both of your posts thus far have been negative pointless post because you feel like HT sided with the short sighted players in the game when he hasn't.
Truth hurts doesn't it? You might cover your ears so you don't have to hear it but it doesn't change the facts.
facts where are your facts? where is the proof that your posts have any merit at all?
you dont have any. you just came barging in on a legitimate(all tho personally i think that perkie poker is a bit a of a stretch for a valid idea)thread and proclaimed victory against the BOPs in the name of your almighty Cod. the end of your ersonal holy war is in sight so you feel the need for unwarranted negative one liners in the wrong threads.
like ranger said take it somewhere else cause it aint welcome in this thread
now back to the topic at hand.
LTARS ROOOOOL!!!!::aok
C,MON PERKIE POKER WOULD BE COOL THOUGH!! LOL
THE MA IN THE LOBBY IDEA IS PURE GENIUS!!!!
RESPECTFULLY ,
BONER
official "member of the AH bb s
public relations officer for Boner
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i agreee it would be fun to play a few hands in the lobby but i dont see how it could be implemented. not saying itsa bad idea at all but i just dont know how it would work.
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Originally posted by lagger86
nice, but how about spending $0 a month to do absolutely something.
That's your choice..feel free.
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See Rules #2, #4
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Truth hurts doesn't it? You might cover your ears so you don't have to hear it but it doesn't change the facts.
ack-ack
WOW!!!:O
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If the community had addressed this issue themselves, HiTech would have never been forced to implement this.
So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.
ack-ack
Hope Im online the next time you are on the side with numbers. I'll make sure to let you know that you need to be a side balancing part of the community.
Oh and I did try it....today...told me I couldnt fly until there was balanced sides or I coould switch...and fly with people I don't know while 7 of my squaddies we on.
There are some squads in AH that don't care where they fly or want to fight eachother.....Mine aint one of those. We go to the DA for fights among squaddies. It's what it was made for.
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Originally posted by USRanger
Though I think the idea of having players stuck "in queue" or forced to switch sides is a horrible idea in my opinion, I'll try to be constructive.(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8928/scratchchinjv2.gif) (http://imageshack.us) Here's my idea. How about letting players that are stuck "in queue" have the option of being a gunner, whether field or buff. You don't get points for being a field gunner anyway (not sure about in buffs, but I'm sure it could be coded that way). They also shouldn't get their name in lights for landing multiple kills while in their queued player status. In effect, it would give players that are waiting something to do, without getting credit for their kills. They would still be contributing while not getting the perks (literal and figurative) out of it. Maybe players in queue could control the auto-acks. That would be fun. Heck, I'd stay in queue just to be a town ack, waiting to blast the first set of jabos diving in on my town! Opinions?
Well since perk points seem to fallow you threw the game from arena to arena. How about we get a poker game in the lobby? Or a built in streaming Mp3 player. or since the game is about to become more of a chat room then a WWII combat sim how about IRC commands . Even Better a Virtual Love EWE!
:)
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I'd suggest video Strip poker in the waiting que, but it would look like those Iraq prison pictures. You know the ones where they stacked naked prisoners with Shawk on top!
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if i get stuck in queue i just log and play Hearts of Iron or FS2004... but then seeing as HTC still gets my money..... hes "happy" right?
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Originally posted by TalonX
Will we know what country needs the most players? If so, a squad can change to that country and stay together.
I commented about being married to a chess piece in another post. Get over it. Just go to the light...... :)
Shifting piles of sand... at least that's what we call in at work when our load balancers don't work... which is most of the time.
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Business 101: It costs more to get new subscribers than it does to keep existing ones.
Seems to me that Hitech is risking damage to his existing customer base and betting on making up whatever he loses with new subs. I reckon he knows what direction he wants to bring this game in. :huh
Sure, its his business. Yes, it is vibrant and profitable (I think?). But so was Warbirds. I say this to remind you that bad business decisions can cripple a business.
Anyway, my biggest gripe with all these changes is that to me, they seem to be going in the opposite direction from what he markets this game as. I really wish it were not so...
His television commercial says to join the "war torn skies of World War II." Huh? World War II???
Were the Rooks fighting the Bish in WWII? Were La-7's opposing P-51D's? Were Typhoons going up against Spitfires? Were the sides perfectly even? Were only specific bases open to capture? (Maybe that particular aspect of the "experiment" is to prepare us for the Vietnam version of Aces High?)...Argh!
On top of all that, one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game for most people is the community. If all we wanted to do was fly alone we would all be playing box games and not online MMGs. Its the community that creates the backdrop for enjoyable gameplay. If you don't think so turn off your in-game voice and play "alone". My bet is you will quickly tire of it.
Squads and the close relations that they spawn are integral to this kind of community experience. Now with the "queue" a fragmentation of that close-knit group is all but inevitable. This has the effect of ripping the "heart" out of the game and that can't be good for business.
Overall, its getting a very "gamey" feel to it and its not pleasant.
David
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I like the Poker idea.....NOT
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Originally posted by jhookt
sorry again for the hijack but Ack-Ack and his high horse need to be addressed.
what is this blase propaganda that the people with your game play style have been posting
If the community had addressed this issue themselves, HiTech would have never been forced to implement this.
So while you may think it "sucks" for you and your squadron you have no one to blame but yourself and your squadron.
this is a completely baseless statement. and should be translated as such:
hahaha HT has undone what he had orignially intended and now you have to play the way i do GO ME and by blaming the "community" i get to make blanket critical accusations with out being in danger of getting called out
you act as if the new changes are some type of punishment for the evil wrong doings of the nameless faceless horde of country loving n00bs.
where are you getting any information to show that OPINION of your too be true? both of your posts thus far have been negative pointless post because you feel like HT sided with the short sighted players in the game when he hasn't.
Truth hurts doesn't it? You might cover your ears so you don't have to hear it but it doesn't change the facts.
facts where are your facts? where is the proof that your posts have any merit at all?
Many of us including AKAK have been doing this WW2 flight sim thing over twice as long as AH's life span. We didn't need the developers to try and design fixes for country balance issues elsewhere. There were enough players with a little bit of common sense who would step up and keep issues like that from getting out of hand. Hence, the community took care of it.
Now this community with the 'tude that the majority of the players seem to have don't give a **** about anyone elses gameplay. Seems that a few years back half the community was perfectly happy to allow a 5 month strech where the same country could have more players than the other two combined on any given prime time evening. Ive never seen anything that extreme in a similar game. So if that isn't the community forcing the developer to step in, than I don't know what is.
And by the way, Ive been saying that well before any country balance system was put into place.
Originally posted by Murdr 12/2/2003
However none of this addresses the root of the problem, which is the lack of responsible squads in the game. Specifically the ones that are more than happy to feel they are great and effective because they fly on the coutry with the most numbers, and can kick bellybutton all the time.
Hats off to the squads that do switch countries to balance the numbers, and make game play better for everyone.
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Now this community with the 'tude that the majority of the players seem to have don't give a **** about anyone elses gameplay. Seems that a few years back half the community was perfectly happy to allow a 5 month strech where the same country could have more players than the other two combined on any given prime time evening. Ive never seen anything that extreme in a similar game. So if that isn't the community forcing the developer to step in, than I don't know what is.
I'm glad someone remembers exactly how the eny came about in the first place.
HiTech
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You guys just don't get it do you. You're acting like children that have a fit when a parent tells you "NO". Stop being so stubborn.
There was/is a problem, and the problem is the community. The sooner you guys realize this and adjust, the better. HT is not breaking up squads, he's not stopping you from flying, and he has even now disabled the eny limiter.
Jump to another country and you get to up immediately without waiting. Is that so hard to understand? Take responsibility like adults and move your squad.
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Can we have a note telling us which arenas arent accpeting pilots so we can better choose the arena to fight in?
I think it would be cool for the outnumbered countries to uber mega ack at their bases and towns so it would be harder to capture and could give players in that country some time to get up and airborne.
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Originally posted by Grits
John,
I agree, and I think HT is on the right track.
If Dantoo is that unhappy, he should just leave and stop *****ing about it. Dont post a "suicide note" on the BBS, dont throw any bombs at HT, just stop paying and leave.
Of course, the percentage of people who threaten to quit and then actually follow through with that threat is pretty small I'd bet. These kind of hollow threats are not about the game or how HT runs it, its about "I'm going to stamp my feet and hold my breath until I get what I want!!".
if some other people had done this 3 months earlier,
we'd still have MA.
"When did I stamp my feet and threaten to quit if HT did do what I want?"
i believe you told him to quit fricking whining actually.
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Originally posted by Killjoy2
I'd suggest video Strip poker in the waiting que, but it would look like those Iraq prison pictures. You know the ones where they stacked naked prisoners with Shawk on top!
OMG !!! That's funniest thing i've heard in awhile lol ...... Ledpig points and laughs at Shawk .... :D :rofl