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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 68wolf on December 12, 2006, 07:37:17 AM
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ok who likes the new system of that if your side is to crouted that you have to switch countries leave the arena or wait for it to become more balanced.
i dont like it because it is hurting Squads. how can we funtion if we cant fight. it is not our fault that so many people like one side or the other.
to me there is anther way you could have done this with out hurting anyone. raise the perk bouns up more and more like yall did. and raise and lower Eny as needed.
anyway tell me what yall think guys.
i think it is wrong
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I can't wait until it kicks in, I like a good balanced fight!:aok
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Last night in LWOrange was retarded beyond belief. Rooks 100, Bish 100, Knights 60. ENY was useless, both Rooks and Bish were rolling over the Knits like steamrollers.
How is that fun for anyone?
The problem is that an imbalance of 20-30 in a 5-600 player arena doesn't make that much of a difference (old MA). In a 250 player arena the effect is magnified x2... the plurality of arenas means that when people are getting pounded and outnumbered, they can easily leave for another arena. Someone else stated this in another thread and got flamed like crazy, but it's the truth. Nobody wants to get their butt kicked by 2x the players, and now they can just go to another arena instead of having to log off and find something else to do.
I mean, how much fun would it be for a football team if the other team was allowed to have twice as many players on the field? Who do you think would win?
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I like the idea of the new side balancing, I have no problem switching sides to help even up the playing field.
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if you want your squad to be affective, and fly together, switch. while in may not be your fault to the imbalance, you are doing nothing to help with the solution.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Last night in LWOrange was retarded beyond belief. Rooks 100, Bish 100, Knights 60. ENY was useless, both Rooks and Bish were rolling over the Knits like steamrollers.
How is that fun for anyone?
Because, those hiding behind the numbers NEED those numbers so they can "be something and get their name in lights".
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Because, those hiding behind the numbers NEED those numbers so they can "be something and get their name in lights".
I just don't get that. Can anyone explain how that's desirable?
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I just don't get that. Can anyone explain how that's desirable?
EGO!
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Scottydawg, when I came on at 7:30pm eastern it was 90 rook, 90 bish
and 85 knight. A little while later, I checked again. It was 100 rook, 100
bish and 95 knights. Some time around 8:30 rooks were still 100, bish 95
and knights had dropped to 60. So in your eyes, whoose fault was side
imbalance? Rook and bish numbers stayed pretty much constant from
the time I came in until I left at 9:30.
I guess when the 30 knights left, 30 of the rooks and 30 of the bish
should have logged too, just out of fairness.
And your football example is a non-starter. The rules are very specific
11 men on the field per team. Penalty if you get caught with more than
that. But I guess a team could pull 3 of its players off the field and then
whine about being out numbered.
Mike Callahan
aka BTMe62
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Hasnt Affected me YET...........
o and Ask Anyone I was giving away Free Kills last night in the 47 Like....well Ya get the point..........
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Originally posted by BTMe62
Scottydawg, when I came on at 7:30pm eastern it was 90 rook, 90 bish
and 85 knight. A little while later, I checked again. It was 100 rook, 100
bish and 95 knights. Some time around 8:30 rooks were still 100, bish 95
and knights had dropped to 60. So in your eyes, whoose fault was side
imbalance? Rook and bish numbers stayed pretty much constant from
the time I came in until I left at 9:30.
I guess when the 30 knights left, 30 of the rooks and 30 of the bish
should have logged too, just out of fairness.
And your football example is a non-starter. The rules are very specific
11 men on the field per team. Penalty if you get caught with more than
that. But I guess a team could pull 3 of its players off the field and then
whine about being out numbered.
Mike Callahan
aka BTMe62
I wasn't blaming anyone, Mike. I'm not sure how we can logically blame anyone... I mean, are you saying that the knights who were playing at 7:30 and 8:30 should have stayed on until they were "relieved" by other knights? I'm simply saying that obviously there is no self-policing way to maintain a reasonable balance.
And your reply re: the football analogy is important, precisely because in football (and other organized sports of that type) there are very specific rules regarding numbers in order to facilitate some semblance of balanced competition. That was exactly my point.
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IT SUCKS! :furious
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It really doesn't matter to me. I like to fighting the loosing side defending bases but i also like to play cap the field so the new changes are going to make it harder for me to play cap the field.
I jump around so much from arena to arena that i dont see it much of a problem.
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being on the low number team means more targets :aok
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Originally posted by Solar10
EGO!
Bingo! How you been Solar?
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ok i see what yall mean and i like it now but i just dont like that we have to switch to fight i mean the JB's only fly rook nothing else and because of these new setups we have lost about 3-4 JB's and more if this keeps happing.
i dunno what to do i mean i could go Rouge again and fly for bish or knight since they are the lowest in numbers.
JB76 aka Megawolf signing off.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Last night in LWOrange was retarded beyond belief. Rooks 100, Bish 100, Knights 60. ENY was useless, both Rooks and Bish were rolling over the Knits like steamrollers.
How is that fun for anyone?
Weird.
We had our squad night last night and we fly Bish. Not once did we attack Nits and there was plenty of fighting going on between Bish and Rooks down south. Guess I missed the steamrolling of the nits.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
And your reply re: the football analogy is important, precisely because in football (and other organized sports of that type) there are very specific rules regarding numbers in order to facilitate some semblance of balanced competition. That was exactly my point.
Hmmm.....I wonder how these rules of fair and balanced play would apply to dodgeball?
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Megawolf, I'm in a squad with 17(?) players in it. I don't ask for permission to change my country, I'll do as i please and if they don't like it if I shoot them down I'll tell them the next ones on me :D
I understand you want to fly with your friends and not against them but in order to do that you will have to wait for that opportunity...or switch to a side that will help to even out the odds and make the game more enjoyable for everyone.
I would rather fly with my squaddies than against them also (PK & OlDemon always kill me:furious ) but we truly did bring this on ourselves (furballers, shedders, and milkers).
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rgr pup thanks man i think i might go rouge if it keeps going on i am not sure yet. i had to wait 15 mins earlyer because ever arena was full with rook and no bish
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Whenever I am in an arena there is always somebody whining about getting ganged. There are a few maps where the field positions just seem to make one side or the other get hit by both opposing teams.
It always balances out in the long run.
I don't think that having all 3 sides with the same # of ppl will automatically mean that each side will have the same amount of "fair fites".
If that is what we are after, lets go to a 2 side war with 1 base for each team.
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the only thing wrong with that. that i can see is that it would eather be a big furball or a big Tanker about the one base thing. the other thing about the 2 sides i kidda like i mean if we do that then we dont have to worrie about to sides. i mean it would be like the bratian and i think the jappense. (pardon my spelling) in world war 2 before the Jappense sunk a US Deveraly Ship and came into the war to help the brits.