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Title: Obama 08
Post by: Gunslinger on December 13, 2006, 10:10:01 PM
I got this in an email and found it an interesting read.  It describes some of the conservative base's feelings/choices perfectly.  I don't know squat about the author (wich is the best way to read something, no preconceived notions) but figured I'd share.

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Why it will be 'President Obama' in 2009
By Kevin McCullough
Sunday, December 3, 2006
Barring several series of near seizure-like corrections, Barack Obama will take the Presidential oath of office in January of 2009. It will be a cold January morning, his beautiful wife and daughters will be by his side and they will shiver as he places his hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the Constitution of the United States. His presidency that will follow, if reflective of anything at all of his legislative record, will then seek to dismantle that same Constitution.
I have a long track record of predictions on Obama, and all of them have come true. I have no reason to believe that this one will conclude any differently.
There are reasons that this event is destined to take place, and given the option of knowing them but remaining silent, or mentioning them in the hope that the scene I've just mentioned never comes to path - I choose the latter. If any of these were to take significant turns, the formula might collapse. This is given the fact that the nation will be in a holding pattern for the next two years with absolute gridlock on pretty much everything (with the possible exception of amnesty for illegal aliens.)
RAGING LIBERALS - In 2006 the message of the voters was not Ned Lamont. Rather it was the "Crash Dummy Class of '06. ding_on_the_shoulders_of_cras h_dummies> " Democrats who looked, and tried to talk like people of faith - at least long enough to get elected. George Soros, the Daily Kos, Al Gore, Susan Sarandon, and not to be forgotten Howard Dean, have made their go at it. They failed. But since their party won the midterms - they believe they've been justified. Their anti-American rhetoric will increase. They will express dissatisfaction with Pelosi/Reid and demand an increased presence in the 2008 picture. The democratic primary voter will reject this increased extremism and look for a "consensus builder." They will long for someone who is "above the frey." Obama will fit that profile and will bring "together" the left and right in his own party. He will do it with a sense of style, smoothness, and humor - a stark contrast to Hillary, Gore, Kerry, et al.
DIGUSTED CONSERVATIVES - Still reeling from the "ginormous" let down of the Senate under Bill Frist, and the second term Presidency of George W. Bush, normally energized conservatives will look to a field that offers a pro-choice/pro-gay mayor from New York, a Mormon from Massachusetts - who was pro-choice/pro-gay but genuinely seems now not to be - but may have hired illegal aliens, blah blah blah, or John McCain (whose single biggest problem is that he IS John McCain.) Normally eager "tax-cutting, government shrinking, let's defend our nation, pro-life, pro-family" voters, organizations, and leaders will be assaulted with speeches on Romney's health care reform, or Giuliani's crime initiatives, or John McCain. Whoever emerges, will have not one tenth the oratory skills of Obama and they will come off looking as tired, dry, and stale as day-old toast.
EXHAUSTED MODERATES - They are tired of the stale toast, and will be looking for anything exciting. Mind you, moderates by definition don't truly stand for anything so it doesn't really matter what the candidate stands for. These people voted for Kennedy, Reagan, and Clinton all based on one thing, "how does he make me feel?" Realizing this Obama will be a lightening rod on the campaign trail. He will draw record crowds for every appearance he makes (something he's already begun to
do.) Money will flow in as a result. Obama's strategy of talking about cooperation, sounding bipartisan, and seeming to curtly rebuke both sides of the aisle will seem to validate his "ability" to "stay above the frey."
ENERGIZED BLACKS - The true voice for alternatives for black voters will not be heard because the voices of great men like Bishop Harry Jackson  will not yet have become distinct enough within American media, and because the media, in ignoring the Bishop, will instead return again and again to the altar of Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson. Instead, as the media is already doing, there will be near non-stop fawning over the Senator from Illinois as he flashes the big smile. Black voters, who in the majority vote for party and not conviction anyway, will see Obama as the personality that no one since Dr. King has been able to live up too. Obama will be invited to each and every significant black pulpit in America. He will rail with poetry, sing with soul, rhyme when appropriate, and never will the IRS even think of threatening even one of these houses of worship for illegal political action.
GULLIBLE EVANGELICALS - The most reliable base of voters for the Republican Party since the days of President Reagan have been the social conservatives. Church-going born-again Christians who believe in God, the importance of His word, and the significance of living out their faith in an open and compassionate way every single day have been the backbone of the GOP. This past Friday Rick Warren,
through the implied endorsement amas_evil_in_rick_warrens_pul pit>  of allowing Obama to speak at one of the largest evangelical churches in
America 69e> gave Obama the opportunity to split evangelicals who will be misled
by Obama's words
instead of opening their eyes to his actions. In my gentle admonition to Rick Warren over the past couple of weeks I reiterated time and again that it was this opportunity being extended to Obama that would be manipulated by both the press a10>  , and Obama himself
3f3>  to pose as a "person of faith." Warren's stubborn action of
insisting upon having Obama speak f6d>  at Saddleback Church in southern California has had that exact
effect 1df>  .
From this point forward should the trend of any of these five areas shift significantly Obama's chances could be compromised. But there are credible reasons to believe that they won't be.
So mark this date down, because it is the first time anyone accurately predicted that Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States.
And you have no idea how much I hope this prediction does not come true!

Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 13, 2006, 10:26:43 PM
um.  megadud loves lamp...
Title: Obama 08
Post by: AWMac on December 13, 2006, 10:30:13 PM
Have you been "Colon Cleansed or just Brain Washed?"

Just what are your thoughts on this? Don't have one and just posting to be posting?

Are you now a Post potato?

:D

Mac
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 13, 2006, 10:33:04 PM
skipped yer meds again did ya?
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 13, 2006, 10:36:37 PM
i'm just over the devisive geo-political nonsense.  

i am tired of stereotypes and agendas and people who call other people names.

except dave pro.  hes a ****head.  totally.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: rpm on December 13, 2006, 10:48:06 PM
Personally, Obama does nothing for me. He's just another politician.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 13, 2006, 10:54:27 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Personally, Obama does nothing for me. He's just another politician.


agreed.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: cav58d on December 13, 2006, 11:12:23 PM
Even if he were a conservative, there is no way in hell I would vote for one of the most inexperiended, junior Senators to become President of the United States...

Furthermore, I have my doubts about US Senators going to the Executive Office....More of a Governor guy.

1 out of 1.

Not 1 out of 100!
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 13, 2006, 11:13:59 PM
shouted out, who killed the kennedies...
Title: Obama 08
Post by: AWMac on December 13, 2006, 11:19:06 PM
Vote in Ted.... We could use another Federal Parade at Taxpayers expense.

Arlington Natl Cem is Beautiful in the Spring I hear.

Mac


"After all it was you and me...."
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Sandman on December 13, 2006, 11:45:51 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Even if he were a conservative, there is no way in hell I would vote for one of the most inexperiended, junior Senators to become President of the United States...


Guess who was the last Senator to be elected President.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: cav58d on December 13, 2006, 11:58:03 PM
Nixon
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Debonair on December 13, 2006, 11:58:52 PM
LBJ?
OMG his wife is still alive, she is gonna be teh number 1 dO0d in the .gov NO WAI!!!!11:O :O :O
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Debonair on December 14, 2006, 12:01:24 AM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Nixon

no, i think Russ Nixon played for the indians:mad: :mad: :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
Title: Obama 08
Post by: cav58d on December 14, 2006, 12:04:28 AM
Dick was in fact the last
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Sandman on December 14, 2006, 12:07:32 AM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Dick was in fact the last


Dick was not a senator at the time.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: storch on December 14, 2006, 12:11:31 AM
not a chance of this happening
Title: Obama 08
Post by: rpm on December 14, 2006, 12:14:00 AM
This is just like watching testing at Indy.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: cav58d on December 14, 2006, 12:37:12 AM
The last US President to win the general election as a sitting Senator was JFK.  The last President to have been a Senator was Nixon.
Who is the last President from the US House?
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 12:45:39 AM
ford
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Debonair on December 14, 2006, 12:49:47 AM
NOES!! it was the guy named after ladies pubic hairs!!:O :O :O (this was back when ladies had pubic hairs)
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 12:51:53 AM
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Originally posted by Debonair
NOES!! it was the guy named after ladies pubic hairs!!:O :O :O (this was back when ladies had pubic hairs)


guess it wasnt cleveland then.

:confused:
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Debonair on December 14, 2006, 12:53:27 AM
lol "bush" lolololololololol
I JUST THOUGH OF THAT OMG LOLOLOLOL :rofl :rofl :rofl :O :O :D :D :D :aok
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 01:07:14 AM
it's funny because your avatard offers no indication of your proclivity to hyper-typoidal emoticon usage.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Rolex on December 14, 2006, 01:35:28 AM
JFK was the last US Senator to be elected president. No Google necessary - I remember.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 01:42:06 AM
what kind of mileage did those mastadons get?

:D
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Rolex on December 14, 2006, 01:48:21 AM
Don't know, but they tasted like chicken.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Waffle on December 14, 2006, 01:50:07 AM
Barack Hussien Obama = Antichrist
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 02:11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Rolex
Don't know, but they tasted like chicken.


:D
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Debonair on December 14, 2006, 03:15:45 AM
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Originally posted by JB88
it's funny because your avatard offers no indication of your proclivity to hyper-typoidal emoticon usage.


my aviatoard is a guy with giant piles of stolen cash, u'd think he is pretty excited, like all
"zOMG MONIES!!! :aok :aok :aok :aok :D :D :D YES i like DOUGH:O :O "
Title: Obama 08
Post by: WhiteHawk on December 14, 2006, 07:19:28 AM
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Originally posted by JB88
it's funny because your avatard offers no indication of your proclivity to hyper-typoidal emoticon usage.



:huh
Title: Obama 08
Post by: midnight Target on December 14, 2006, 08:03:43 AM
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hope that the scene I've just mentioned never comes to path


It's PASS.. not PATH!!!

GGGGGAAAHHH!
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 14, 2006, 08:12:27 AM
I think it would be just like the democrats to run hillary or the black guy.

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: midnight Target on December 14, 2006, 08:21:49 AM
and it would be just like the republicans to make sex or race the issue.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 14, 2006, 08:42:12 AM
mt... my point is that the democrats are the ones making it an issue..  they are running these people because of their gender and race...  they are running the worst candidates they can find and doing so because they are slaves to race and gender issues.

as the old joke goes....Why did god make hillary and obama smell bad?   so blind people could hate em too.

they are both commies.  the democrats are hoping that the race and gender thing will cover up the stink of the commie thing... same old democrat "if you don't vote for em you are a biggot" deal.

Your post is probly the first shot in that salvo.

lazs
Title: Re: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 14, 2006, 08:42:15 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Why it will be 'President Obama' in 2009
By Kevin McCullough
Sunday, December 3, 2006
Barring several series of near seizure-like corrections, Barack Obama will take the Presidential oath of office in January of 2009. It will be a cold January morning, his beautiful wife and daughters will be by his side and they will shiver as he places his hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the Constitution of the United States. His presidency that will follow, if reflective of anything at all of his legislative record, will then seek to dismantle that same Constitution


Just as I have a hard time taking seriously any liberal banter where the writer only uses liberal sources as "proof" of what he is trying to sy.
the exact same thing holds true for conservative banter


"His presidency that will follow, if reflective of anything at all of his legislative record, will then seek to dismantle that same Constitution"

This line cracks me up. As I just dont see the connection.
Here is Obama's voting record

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/ (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/)

While I see him as well spoken, Likable and very charismatic.

If I were to base my vote on those things alone as many people do I'd vote for him

My primary concern is that he very rarely votes against party lines
But as a fast glance I dont see anythign there that woudl indicate to me his desire or intent to dismantle the Constitution
Title: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 14, 2006, 08:49:32 AM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Even if he were a conservative, there is no way in hell I would vote for one of the most inexperiended, junior Senators to become President of the United States...

Furthermore, I have my doubts about US Senators going to the Executive Office....More of a Governor guy.

1 out of 1.

Not 1 out of 100!


In light of what we've had from "Experianced" polititions both parties lately
Care to explain the logic to your reasoning?
Is it even possible i light of the last few clowns in both parties that someone with inexperience can possibly do worse??

Personally I think inexperience may be just what we need
A fresh approach as it were as opposed to the same ol same.

Hell I could think of a few people here and that I know IRL with no experience at all that I would trust and have a hell of alot more faith in doing a good job in the White house then anyone of either party has right now
Title: Obama 08
Post by: CHECKERS on December 14, 2006, 08:56:44 AM
"Vote Democrat ,
       It's Easier than Thinking " !
...:rolleyes:
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 14, 2006, 09:00:07 AM
seems he never seen a tax or a child molester that he didn't like.

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 14, 2006, 09:00:31 AM
::Sigh::
:rolleyes:
Some of you people on both sides of the isle really need to forget your brainwashing learn and practice more of THIS (http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/definingCT.shtml)
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 14, 2006, 09:07:40 AM
wow.. thanks for the link...  now I can say that I arrived at the conclusion that osama ben whatever is a liberal socialist through application of critical thinking.    Allways good to have people tell you how to think.  

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Charon on December 14, 2006, 10:23:59 AM
Obama strikes me as just another party hack. He even has his very own scandal in the works over some "odd" real estate deal (to his favor) with some local deal maker. It is Ill after all :) Unfortunatley, he has the Clinton charm.

I wouldn't sell Hillary short. It's her last chance to really make the play. If she does, she will likely get most of the formal party support, IMO, and then be unelectable in 2K8.

Charon
Title: Obama 08
Post by: WhiteHawk on December 14, 2006, 03:56:45 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
mt... my point is that the democrats are the ones making it an issue..  they are running these people because of their gender and race...  they are running the worst candidates they can find and doing so because they are slaves to race and gender issues.

as the old joke goes....Why did god make hillary and obama smell bad?   so blind people could hate em too.

they are both commies.  the democrats are hoping that the race and gender thing will cover up the stink of the commie thing... same old democrat "if you don't vote for em you are a biggot" deal.

Your post is probly the first shot in that salvo.

lazs


All the dems have to do is run a white male between the ages of 12 and 98 to win the white house.  So I can see the ticket now, Hillary and Obama.  I'll refuse to vote.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Sandman on December 14, 2006, 04:03:18 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
All the dems have to do is run a white male between the ages of 12 and 98 to win the white house.  So I can see the ticket now, Hillary and Obama.  I'll refuse to vote.


Obama is as much white as he is black.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
if he can't moonwalk, he ain't ready.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 14, 2006, 04:15:51 PM
Barak Obama wont win the Presidency because he is black, the USA is too racist for it.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: 1K3 on December 14, 2006, 04:19:26 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Barak Obama wont win the Presidency because he is black, the USA is too racist for it.



and because of his name too... conservatives would see him as the new anti-christ because of that:p

Barack HUSSEIN ObAMA:p
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 14, 2006, 04:22:21 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Barak Obama wont win the Presidency because he is black, the USA is too racist for it.


i disagree.

i think powell could have had it at one point if he had wanted it.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 14, 2006, 05:42:40 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
wow.. thanks for the link...  now I can say that I arrived at the conclusion that osama ben whatever is a liberal socialist through application of critical thinking.    Allways good to have people tell you how to think.  

lazs


Odd.
I dont remember mentioning anyone in particular.
And I applied the statements to both sides of the isle.
How is it your the only one that seemed to get offended?
Persecution complex perhaps?

Tut tut

If all one does is think with a bias one way or the other.
Then its not true thinking. Its simply reacting

Then perhaps it is well they be offered an alternative mode of thinking as an option.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on December 14, 2006, 08:36:49 PM
Dred, he may be well spoken and polite in the public eye, but in person hes a real Richard-head.  Not that I believe its necessary to be a NICE guy to be President, we tried that with Clinton and look where it got us.  :)  As a conservative Democrat, and as probably the only person on this BBS that has actually met Mr. Obama, I can honestly say I'd rather vote for McCain than him.  He's very class-concious and treats "little people" like total sh**.  As long as there are no cameras around anyway.  When he spoke at the Democratic Natl. Convention, I firmly believed he would run for (and win) the election in 2012.  Now I'm very afraid he will win the election in 2008.  Heck, I'd vote for Hillary before I'd vote for him, if only because she's so well hated that she'd do less damage in the long run.  Obama might just fool enough people long enough to do lasting damage.  He scares me.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 14, 2006, 08:52:15 PM
All I know about him is what I've read and seen on TV.

Fortunately I dont vote based on like or dislike alone.
Hell I repeatedly said I didnt like Bush but I voted for him anyway LOL

My primary concern is anyone who only goes with party lines.
The whole class distinction thing when it comes to top people in big business or government is pretty common among them unless the commoner (little people) suits their needs at that particular time.
then they can act all buddy buddy. Then as soon as the commoner doest suit their neds anymore its "bye bye lardass"
So that really doesnt surprise me.

I cant and wont vote for Hillary for several reasons. 1 because I simply hate her guts LOL  also because she is such an obvious fraud.

She is a HARD core left winger only recently moving to the center to garner support for her run
And I also beleive she will be as terrible not to mention devisive for the country as a whole as Bush was.

As things stand now barring someone magnificent running. Which doesnt seem likely fomr either side I am probably voting either Libretarian or will abstain out of disgust

As for Obama. Im in wait and see mode. I will be monitoring him to see what he is about politically.

Odds are he and I will never be hanging out together so how he is as a person is of little consequence LOL
Title: Obama 08
Post by: AWMac on December 14, 2006, 09:07:41 PM
Yo, Yo  In Da House!!!

Brother gots it happin'n an  gonna have a Cracker Biyatch run front static...

We be uppin da House, Muslum too sheeet... we be in!!!

Hands up "Woot, Woot"...Wave yer hands like you don care.

It' like "Sell me as a freshie but I had a VERY HARD LIFE...I like Lemmings and Sheep..they'll follow anything.

*and it still echos from Kerry..."I Have a Plan"...  No Kerry you had a *Wet Dream*  Stay with HeinzZillaw...

BTW Pubs will regain the Senate...

Merry Christmas,

Mac
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Kurt on December 14, 2006, 09:36:05 PM
Ok, Osama 08... Got it.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: FBBone on December 14, 2006, 10:33:41 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Yo, Yo  In Da House!!!

Brother gots it happin'n an  gonna have a Cracker Biyatch run front static...

We be uppin da House, Muslum too sheeet... we be in!!!

Hands up "Woot, Woot"...Wave yer hands like you don care.

It' like "Sell me as a freshie but I had a VERY HARD LIFE...I like Lemmings and Sheep..they'll follow anything.

*and it still echos from Kerry..."I Have a Plan"...  No Kerry you had a *Wet Dream*  Stay with HeinzZillaw...

BTW Pubs will regain the Senate...

Merry Christmas,

Mac


Wow Mac,  maybe it's time to check the strength of your meds................
Title: Obama 08
Post by: bj229r on December 14, 2006, 11:08:02 PM
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Personally I think inexperience may be just what we need
A fresh approach as it were as opposed to the same ol same.


Where have I heard that before...oh yah...1975..and THAT worked out real well:aok
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Yknurd on December 14, 2006, 11:37:09 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Yo, Yo  In Da House!!!

Brother gots it happin'n an  gonna have a Cracker Biyatch run front static...

We be uppin da House, Muslum too sheeet... we be in!!!

Hands up "Woot, Woot"...Wave yer hands like you don care.

It' like "Sell me as a freshie but I had a VERY HARD LIFE...I like Lemmings and Sheep..they'll follow anything.

*and it still echos from Kerry..."I Have a Plan"...  No Kerry you had a *Wet Dream*  Stay with HeinzZillaw...

BTW Pubs will regain the Senate...

Merry Christmas,

Mac


Some of us have a bet outside of AH.  You know, one of those death ones.

I know I drink alot but I've got you on the top of my list.  I think that not only are you drinking too much but you are probably also taking something to keep you 'up' from the downs.

It seems like things are swinging your way, don't make me make money that I'd rather not 'earn'.

[edit] Seriously, I really don't like you.  I think you're a fool and an arrogant one, but that doesn't mean that I would like to see you dead.  As one human to another, take care of youself.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 15, 2006, 08:49:30 AM
dred...  I responded because your response was right under my post.

I think that you are not looking at things in a critical thinking method tho when you say that you vote based on it.

I vote based on party affiliation and voting record of candidate combined... you need to combine the two.... you may have noticed how.... in the past... the person of a particular party will vote along party lines when push comes to shove... even if that is not what you wanted or expected him to do.

It is far better for instance if, say, you think the second amendment is important.. that you not watch the candidate duck hunting and figure you are safe voting for him....  it would be far better to pick up a copy of the American Rifleman around election time and see the rating that the NRA gives him.

Oh...  Americans will not vote for a woman or a black man.   It is not that the Americans have baggage it is that women and black men have too much gender and race baggage still that they are carrying around.

When 80% of blacks all vote one way then it is easy to see that there is a difference.   You can't PC or soundbite or shame the reality away.

We are not ready as a people and the blacks are not ready as a race to put race asside.   We are ready to pretend tho sooooo... continue on pretending.

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: bj229r on December 15, 2006, 09:15:04 AM
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Oh... Americans will not vote for a woman or a black man. It is not that the Americans have baggage it is that women and black men have too much gender and race baggage still that they are carrying around.


It wouldnt be because they are black, or women (or both)-- It's just that most nationally-known members of these 2 groups are flaming liberals, and more importantly, NEVER stop reminding us that they ARE in fact, black, or female (or both)--Not-so-subtly implying that their loyalties are ONLY to these groups. Being a middle-class white guy, WHY would I vote for Maxine Waters or Charles Rangel, or John Conyers or Barbara Mikulski or Shillary? I would rightly conclude that my interests are going to be skewered in favor of their narrow interests. Having said that, Colin Powell would PROBABLY be president right now, had he chosen to run--he is who he is, but he is an american first, not a black man first (Condi rice probably in same category, but she hates politics--obviously a smart chick)

(edit) fergot Michael Steele, a black man who WOULd be the Republican senator from Maryland right now had he switched parties to Dem-- The Washington Post trashed him continously for the last year, as well as the 'African-American' segment of our political world. He committed a crime, which was to be a black man in the Gop--As it was, he nearly won
Title: Obama 08
Post by: storch on December 15, 2006, 09:39:31 AM
I don't believe any person of color will ascend to the presidency of the United States any time soon.  There is a waspish control of that office that not even the italians have been able to broker into. based on this observation I believe barak hussein obama doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of ever attaining that honor.  I don't believe he deserves to lead this nation and I believe many will agree with this assessment.  I do think that it's good that the democrats think him to be viable candidate for the nation's highest office.  Let's sit back and watch them fritter away this opportunity in the same way the republicans did after the 1946 mid term elections.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Mightytboy on December 15, 2006, 10:10:29 AM
I to am in the wait and see category when it comes to Obama.

He seems well spoken and has not done anything bad (that we know about) that would warrant my disapproval.

He is the only Dem I would consider voting for at this point. The Repubs haven't shown me anything yet.

Color and Sex are irrelevant to me unless they use either in their campaign.

It should  be about what you stand for and what you are going to do for/to the United States.

If you are looking at Sex and Color to decide how to vote then you shouldn't be voting.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: bj229r on December 15, 2006, 10:15:15 AM
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
I to am in the wait and see category when it comes to Obama.

He seems well spoken and has not done anything bad (that we know about) that would warrant my disapproval.

He is the only Dem I would consider voting for at this point. The Repubs haven't shown me anything yet.

Color and Sex are irrelevant to me unless they use either in their campaign.

It should  be about what you stand for and what you are going to do for/to the United States.

If you are looking at Sex and Color to decide how to vote then you shouldn't be voting.


Regardless of anything Obama says, his voting record is 100% liberal, and he took 26 freebie jet rides from lobbyists in his FIRST year--Hillary has been sounding centrist of late, but her voting record is agin, 100% liberal
Title: Obama 08
Post by: WilldCrd on December 15, 2006, 11:12:09 AM
If Powel were to run I'd still vote for the man
If for anything his principals that he sticks to. I still think he is the most honorable man that has been in politics in a very long time.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 15, 2006, 02:22:35 PM
bj... you are pretty much repeating what I say...

Powell is different... he doesn't follow stereotype and he also does not take every opportunity to bring up the fact that he is black... he has little or no black baggage that anyone can see.

liberal... is sterotypcial black and woman behavior.... stereotypical baggage that neither osama or hillary can force themselfs to shed.

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Red Tail 444 on December 15, 2006, 02:49:22 PM
It seems to me, that a vast majority of people who make black or female candidates an issue, are...well...white men.

When a woman or black, or any non-white person does something that mainstream America has had an actual or imagined monopoly on, usually the first thought is either "uh-oh, they're trying to take over" or, "how does it feel to be the first ____ , or the only ___?" and then are cornered into making a race or gender biased response.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: JB88 on December 15, 2006, 03:12:17 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Yo, Yo  In Da House!!!

Brother gots it happin'n an  gonna have a Cracker Biyatch run front static...

We be uppin da House, Muslum too sheeet... we be in!!!

Hands up "Woot, Woot"...Wave yer hands like you don care.

It' like "Sell me as a freshie but I had a VERY HARD LIFE...I like Lemmings and Sheep..they'll follow anything.

*and it still echos from Kerry..."I Have a Plan"...  No Kerry you had a *Wet Dream*  Stay with HeinzZillaw...

BTW Pubs will regain the Senate...

Merry Christmas,

Mac


wow, who knew that awmac was a black man.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: aztec on December 15, 2006, 05:00:57 PM
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Originally posted by Yknurd
Some of us have a bet outside of AH.  You know, one of those death ones.

I know I drink alot but I've got you on the top of my list.  I think that not only are you drinking too much but you are probably also taking something to keep you 'up' from the downs.

It seems like things are swinging your way, don't make me make money that I'd rather not 'earn'.

[edit] Seriously, I really don't like you.  I think you're a fool and an arrogant one, but that doesn't mean that I would like to see you dead.  As one human to another, take care of youself.


:rofl
Title: Obama 08
Post by: WhiteHawk on December 16, 2006, 07:09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Obama is as much white as he is black.


Dont get me wrong, its not about a blcak man being president.  Its about the pathetic, almost intentional strategy of the democrats to give themselves a chance of losing the election that befuddles me.  How many votes are going to be lost due to Obama being black or hilary being a female.  The democrats should field a nice looking white man the next election.  Its like having first and goal at the 1 in OT and trying a double reverse flea flicker instead of a two runs up the gut and a field goal if that dont work.  It dont make sense.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: storch on December 16, 2006, 08:46:32 AM
it is about being a person of color and then secondly being female.  a black, hispanic, asian or female president just will not happen any time soon, maybe not in within the lifespan of my generation.  we may see a man of italian descent as president but I'm doubtful of even that.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 16, 2006, 09:37:07 AM
redbottom actually has a point about white reporters making a big deal of gender and race but... those white reporters are allmost allways libereral.

As for  the women and blacks themselves... they miss no opportunity to declare their blackness/womanness...  the "black caucus" for instance.

They are black and women first... liberals second... and fellow Americans last.... if at all.

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: storch on December 16, 2006, 09:45:24 AM
You are correct lazs.  it has infected the rest of the country with the phenomena of the hyphenated American which was started by blacks and immediately embraced by the leftist America haters in the media, a concept that clearly needs to go.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 16, 2006, 10:00:28 AM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
It seems to me, that a vast majority of people who make black or female candidates an issue, are...well...white men.



I'd have no problem voting for a Black man provided he were a man first and Black second.
Or in short. A man who just happens to be black

Powell For instance is a good example of exactly that. A man who just happens to be black.

Sharpton and Jessie Jackson for example are the exact opposite.

They are men who place their color above all else
Thus I can never respect them let alone vote for them

In his "I have a Dream" speach Martin Luther King Said
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character"

Good words. But one should also remember to act that way as well.
Sharpton and Jackson do not

Now I myself respect men. Doesnt matter their color.
I've known good men and I've known pure (insert verbotten N word here) of every color.

I've known Bums (literally) on the street whom I've respected more then CEOs I've known.

Doesnt matter to me the color so long as your a man first.

But as soon as you start spouting off on being this color or that for any extended length of time.
Well Now thats a turnoff and you've lost me.

The Democrats started loosing me the last election when I saw Al Sharpton was the one making the most amount of sense at the DNC.
They only went downhill from there

As for women. Well I will freely admit and am not ashamed to of being a bit chauvinistic. But, the right woman could still possibly garner my vote

Hillary never will. for reasons I've already mentioned.
Plus I absolutely LOATH the woman
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lazs2 on December 16, 2006, 10:02:29 AM
my girlfriend is of mexican decent... I am of Scottish decent... we would both be very angry if someone tried to call us mexican-american or scottish-american.

When some negro says that the words "african-american" offends him then we are on our way.

lazs
Title: Obama 08
Post by: storch on December 16, 2006, 10:30:15 AM
well then we are on our way, there are many people of color who are bothered by the concept of the hyphenated American as it only serves to divide.  divisions will always occur naturally we don't need to be encouraging it institutionally.  again the brunt of the responsibility for this divisive attitude rests squarely on the shoulders of the liberal media. ( :D )
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Dago on December 16, 2006, 10:40:37 AM
Don't feel qualified to comment on Obama since to my limited observation, he hasn't done anything or been anything yet.  

Why would anyone even remotely consider voting for such an unknown in terms of experience ?


His accomplishments so far:

1. Voted to raised 428 different taxes/fees in Illinois.
2. Voted to extend the State's Bonding Authority by a whopping 14B.
3. Moved 800M OUT of the Illinois State Highway fund effectively losing 100,000 manufacturing jobs in the process.
4. Aided the advancement of Socialism.
5. Made empty promises to the idiots, er, voters of Illinois.
6. Kissed the *** of George Soros for money.

He hasn't done squat, has no experience in national office much less on the international stage.  Why would anyone vote for him now???

Maybe when he gets a couple Congressional terms under his belt and has a track record worth reviewing, but to vote for him now would be a huge exercise in stupidity.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lukster on December 16, 2006, 10:50:27 AM
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Originally posted by storch
You are correct lazs.  it has infected the rest of the country with the phenomena of the hyphenated American which was started by blacks and immediately embraced by the leftist America haters in the media, a concept that clearly needs to go.


They gave it a name and wave it on a banner. They call it multiculturalism. A commie plot born in the Soviet Union that keeps on giving and giving imo.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 16, 2006, 11:06:20 AM
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Originally posted by Dago
He hasn't done squat, has no experience in national office much less on the international stage.  Why would anyone vote for him now???

 


Exactly what kind of National and international experience has anyone other then Bush Sr had i the last 20+ years?

Of the last 5 presidents only 1 has had any kind of international experience (Bush Sr.) And the only real national experiance any of them had (other then Bush Sr.) was that of State governor.

So if you want to go by experience on the national level. And experience of international level.
Only 1 of the last 5 has had either.

And we see how well that one turned out

so much for experience being the key thing ot vote for
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Dago on December 16, 2006, 02:33:24 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Exactly what kind of National and international experience has anyone other then Bush Sr had i the last 20+ years?

Of the last 5 presidents only 1 has had any kind of international experience (Bush Sr.) And the only real national experiance any of them had (other then Bush Sr.) was that of State governor.

So if you want to go by experience on the national level. And experience of international level.
Only 1 of the last 5 has had either.

And we see how well that one turned out

so much for experience being the key thing ot vote for


Don't you realize you just made my point?  We vote in someone with squat for experience, and it turns into a mess.   Why would someone want to do that again?

I think we should elect John Bolton.  Now that would be great to watch.
Title: Obama 08
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 16, 2006, 03:26:21 PM
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Don't you realize you just made my point? We vote in someone with squat for experience, and it turns into a mess. Why would someone want to do that again?


The problem with politics is that it's full of politicians.  So then why do we keep putting politicians in power?
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Meatwad on December 16, 2006, 03:50:10 PM
Obama is a joke
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Masherbrum on December 16, 2006, 03:52:03 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Guess who was the last Senator to be elected President.


JFK
Title: Obama 08
Post by: Debonair on December 16, 2006, 03:58:10 PM
al gore :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :O :rofl :rofl
Title: Obama 08
Post by: bj229r on December 16, 2006, 04:27:37 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
bj... you are pretty much repeating what I say...

Powell is different... he doesn't follow stereotype and he also does not take every opportunity to bring up the fact that he is black... he has little or no black baggage that anyone can see.

liberal... is sterotypcial black and woman behavior.... stereotypical baggage that neither osama or hillary can force themselfs to shed.

lazs


But I said it different