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Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Ripsnort on December 14, 2006, 08:23:14 AM
Seattle had to cancel their live nativity scene. They couldn't find any virgins or wisemen.  However, the manger remains. There still are plenty of jack-prettythange$ around D.C. for that role. ;)








Oh, and Peace on Earth! :)

(http://www.silverlake.magicplace.com/Smaller%20Photos%20for%20Web%20Page/Nose%20Art%205%20Peace%20on%20Earth.jpg)
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Chairboy on December 14, 2006, 09:38:11 AM
I wonder how many people clicked on this thread expecting another battle against their mythical "war on christmas"...

Nice pic, btw!
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Red Tail 444 on December 14, 2006, 09:53:23 AM
In this case, they spelled "peace" wrong.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Maverick on December 14, 2006, 10:33:59 AM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
In this case, they spelled "peace" wrong.


I guess you did too. :p
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Mightytboy on December 14, 2006, 11:06:37 AM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I wonder how many people clicked on this thread expecting another battle against their mythical "war on christmas"...

Nice pic, btw!



Seems the only one's claiming it's mythical are the ones who want to do away with it.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: lukster on December 14, 2006, 11:11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
Seems the only one's claiming it's mythical are the ones who want to do away with it.


There's plenty that don't want to see the war the ACLU is waging on Christianity too.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Chairboy on December 14, 2006, 11:23:12 AM
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
Seems the only one's claiming it's mythical are the ones who want to do away with it.
If you're asserting that I want to get rid of christmas, that's laughably incorrect.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: midnight Target on December 14, 2006, 11:26:46 AM
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Originally posted by Mightytboy
Seems the only one's claiming it's mythical are the ones who want to do away with it.


The war on christmas, or Christmas?

Cause it's over you know. Victory has been claimed and WalMart  is back in the fold.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: lukster on December 14, 2006, 11:31:42 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
The war on christmas, or Christmas?

Cause it's over you know. Victory has been claimed and WalMart  is back in the fold.


It may in fact be over depending on whether or not the Senate has the willingness to take the big bucks off the table for the ACLU in it's fight against Chrstianity.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Red Tail 444 on December 14, 2006, 12:09:50 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
I guess you did too. :p


Hence my quotes :D
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Ripsnort on December 20, 2006, 09:54:59 AM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
I wonder how many people clicked on this thread expecting another battle against their mythical "war on christmas"...

Nice pic, btw!


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378895-details/'Santa+Claus+does+not+exist'+school+tells+stunned+kids/article.do

http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=10198

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/134596.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47190

http://blog.lawinfo.com/2006/12/11/christmas-trees-are-removed-by-threat-of-lawsuit/

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051129/LIFESTYLE04/511290380


Yep, thats mythical! :rofl
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Chairboy on December 20, 2006, 10:24:49 AM
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378895-details/'Santa+Claus+does+not+exist'+school+tells+stunned+kids/article.do
A school told kids that Santa doesn't exist.  Sounds like bad judgement, isn't calling this a skirmish in the 'war on christmas' a bit much?  Is every parent who eventually tells their kids about Santa enemy infantry?

http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=10198
It was a kid that complained, are kids your enemy too?  And the kid just didn't believe in Santa, it wasn't a religious thing.

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/134596.htm
Religious display on government land is ok how?  Would you be ok with an Islamic diorama during ramadan?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47190
A group is urging religious organizations to put nativite scenes on their own property instead of government property.  If it was a war on Xmas, wouldn't they be trying to stop the nativity scene from being shown at all?  

http://blog.lawinfo.com/2006/12/11/christmas-trees-are-removed-by-threat-of-lawsuit/
Yeah, that was stupid.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051129/LIFESTYLE04/511290380
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Last week, Joe's parents, Betty and Frank Samona, received a notice from the community association that sets regulations in their upscale Tollgate Woods subdivision. It said the family may be violating rules that prohibit lawn ornaments, statues or outdoor art from being placed on the lot without prior approval of the board of directors.
This is typical homeowners association crappery, I know plenty of folks that have gotten letters like this for putting fountains and planting shrubs in their front yards, but they don't assert that there's a War on Landscaping going on.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Ripsnort on December 20, 2006, 03:15:51 PM
You're going to be very busy if you plan on justifying (in your mind) every single case that exists today, Chair.

here's another...
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-12-20T163841Z_01_L20602735_RTRUKOC_0_US-POPE-NATIVITY.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Chairboy on December 20, 2006, 03:36:05 PM
You've shown me a few isolated news stories, but no evidence that a "war on christmas" exists.  

If the quality of standards you're employing is valid, then I'd be able to "prove" a 'War on Atheists", but I'm not gonna try, because I have better regard for your intelligence than perhaps you have for mine.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Eagler on December 20, 2006, 04:58:56 PM
no war just a growing ignorance ..
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Hajo on December 20, 2006, 05:24:56 PM
Read O'Reilly's latest Book.  Opens a few eyes.  I purchased it to read on a flight home from Tampa.  Darned if it doesn't make you think.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Ripsnort on December 20, 2006, 05:36:32 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
no war just a growing ignorance ..
:rofl :aok
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: DiabloTX on December 20, 2006, 07:35:23 PM
NO BLOOD FOR TINSEL!!!

:mad:
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 20, 2006, 08:39:21 PM
[QUOTEReligious display on government land is ok how?  Would you be ok with an Islamic diorama during ramadan?

[/QUOTE]

And how is it not ok?

For 200 years since the writing of the consitution it was fine.
Its only in the last 10-20 years has it been deemed incorrect

And as for Islamic diorama

If the community in question was in large part Islamic
Sure why not

there is a town here that the vast majority of the population is. or I should say was. Jewish.


It wasnt uncommon to see Jewish symbols even on goverment property
Such as the Manora during Hannuka

and it seems to me the White House every year has at least more then one Christmas Tree set up

Or isnt the White House Government Property?
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Thrawn on December 20, 2006, 09:10:51 PM
Is this like the war on plaque?  Because I'm thinking that with all those candies, chocolates and desserts, that Christmas is in league with plaque.  :mad:
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Thrawn on December 20, 2006, 09:16:12 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
And how is it not ok?


People of other religions are having money taken from them at the point of gun and then the government is using that money to promote a specific religious observance.  Talk about  adding insult to injury.


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For 200 years since the writing of the consitution it was fine.
Its only in the last 10-20 years has it been deemed incorrect


http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html


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And as for Islamic diorama

If the community in question was in large part Islamic
Sure why not


That's why we have rights, to protect us from the majority shoving their ideas down our throats and making us pay for them.
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 21, 2006, 07:37:33 AM
Now everyone should know me enough by now to know I dont typically argue a point without providing an arguement. Often on walloftext book form
So this is outside the norm
But
inasmuch as I dont have the time or the temperment right now to respond in detail

I will agree to dissagree with just about everything you said and pointed to
LOL
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Thrawn on December 21, 2006, 08:23:49 AM
NP, I have days like that as well.   :)
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Chairboy on December 21, 2006, 11:37:38 AM
In the end, 'The War on Christmas' is just a device for fundraising.  Kinda sad that it's sucked in some folks so effectively.  http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9399.html
Title: Seattle is Canceling Live Christmas Nativity Scene
Post by: Chairboy on December 21, 2006, 10:17:20 PM
BTW, I guess if there really _was_ this conflict, it's a civil war:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/231/231338_kids_tears_over_vicars_santa_message.html

Heh heh heh