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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ByeBye on December 15, 2006, 08:19:17 PM
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A great man and a true leader has left his post with honor. He will be missed.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061216/D8M1KVA00.html
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Originally posted by ByeBye
A great man and a true leader has left his post with honor. He will be missed.
:rofl
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true that
(http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Cartoon-Rummy.jpg)
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I have always admired Rumsfeld, but I believe he was not in the right place at the right time. Historically his tenure as DefSec during the Bush admin will likely be viewed as a series of bold minor successes overshadowed by a single complex failure.
to the man for his service.
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this.
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Greetings,
Actually, I know a few ppl who disliked his running of the dept. But then, he did step on a few toes that needed to be stepped on.
I would be glad to discuss trp strength vrs organization off line. But he did mean well and lead the dept well. Gotta love a Sec. of Def that show up out side the Pentagon and helps carry the wounded. At a min, he didn't run and didn't hide.
Regards,
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Originally posted by ByeBye
A great man and a true leader has left his post with honor. He will be missed.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Greetings,
Sorry RPM (dispite your taste in scotch! :) ) He was a leader and left with honor. Whether you like him or not, he led with dignity and resolve.
Regards,
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no one could have done it better
the dems are the 20/20 hind sight gang but have zero plans for the future
thanks Rumsfeld
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Thank you and Good luck Mr. Secretary.
good job nuke
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rummy, nuke, storch
Rummy's decision to do the occupation of Iraq on the cheap (and the results of that decision), despite the warnings of the US military will be admired as strategic genius for generations to come. He is truly covered in glory.
Also, he is sheathed in honour the way only a man you advocates the use of torture can be.
I would also like to congratulate you nuke on doing a good job. I'm not sure what job storch is referring to, but there you have it.
And good job storch on pointing out nuke's good job.
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Good job Thrawn pointing out the good jobs by Nuke and Storch.
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My goodness, the thanks cup overfloweth. The happiness, cheer and goodfellowship of this thread is going all around!
This joy of this thread is bringing a tear to me eye! :cool:
Regards,
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nuke, storch, Sandy, MWL
Sorry, no way can I salute Rummy. I can't even point out a good job by him. But, you don't go to war with the SecDef you want, you go to war with the SecDef you have.
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Well done Thrawn, Sandy, rpm, Eagler, Storch, JB88, Yeager and MWL.
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18 year old Scotch Whiskey, job well done!
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Gabby Johnson
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Thrawn++ :D
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Originally posted by Eagler
no one could have done it better
the dems are the 20/20 hind sight gang but have zero plans for the future
thanks Rumsfeld
what was the repubes plans there, IQ man?
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
what was the repubes plans there, IQ man?
To open a florist shop with all the flowers the Iraqis were going to throw.
I may be mistaken here, but wasn't Rummy FIRED? How is he leaving his post as a hero and job well done?
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Originally posted by rpm
To open a florist shop with all the flowers the Iraqis were going to throw.
I may be mistaken here, but wasn't Rummy FIRED? How is he leaving his post as a hero and job well done?
Everyone knows that Rummy was let go for political reasons. He's a great American, a great leader and a man I admire greatly.
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Just a lousy SecDef?
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Originally posted by rpm
Just a lousy SecDef?
What do you feel he should have done differently? It's okay, you can use hindsite and you will still be wrong.
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did you mean to type "hindsight"?
(because "hindsite" is wrong)
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maybe he means liberal's hinds are so big they could be considered construction sites.
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Originally posted by ByeBye
What do you feel he should have done differently? It's okay, you can use hindsite and you will still be wrong.
In hindsight Rummy should have listened to the foresight of his generals...hell of Bush Sr...of many denzians of this BBS.
You're trying to paint a picture of how everyone was surprised that the occupation of Iraq turned to crap, and then after the shock of Iraq turning to crap started taking Rummy to tasked. The only people it surprised seems to the Bush administration and their supporters.
But Rummy thought that he knew better than history, knew better than his generals, new better than Bush Sr and everyone else and decided to do the war on the cheap.
The only think hindsight does, is bear out that they were right and he was wrong. And let me tell you, when I **** up at job I get in trouble. When I **** up a job a company might lose some money. When Rummy ****ed up, it cost the lives of tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people. And did incredible damage to long term western security, vis a vis destabilization of the middle-east and one of the few secular countries there.
Was getting rid of Rumsfeld political? Yep, and the reason it was politically expedient to get rid of him was because most Americans realized what a **** up he was as Secretary of Defense.
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Yeah, that about sums it up.
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Yeah but he was a master at "beaurocratic infighting". Who could've forseen that a master beaurocratic infighter (asskissing+backstabbing) wouldn't make a supreme general of generals.
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Originally posted by ByeBye
Everyone knows that Rummy was let go for political reasons. He's a great American, a great leader and a man I admire greatly.
Hmmm....let's compare Powell and Rummy...
Powell
Awards and decorations
[edit] Badges
Expert Infantryman Badge
Combat Infantryman Badge
Ranger Tab
Parachutist Badge
Pathfinder Badge
Air Assault Badge
Presidential Service Badge
Secretary of Defense Identification Badge
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
Army Staff Identification Badge
[edit] Medals and ribbons
Defense Distinguished Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Distinguished Service Medal, Army (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Distinguished Service Medal, Air Force
Distinguished Service Medal, Navy
Distinguished Service Medal, Coast Guard
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Soldier's Medal
Bronze Star Medal (with "V" Device)
Purple Heart
Air Medal
Joint Service Commendation Medal
Army Commendation Medal (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Presidential Medal of Freedom (order of precedence, if worn)
Presidential Citizens Medal (order of precedence, if worn)
National Defense Service Medal (with 1 Bronze Service Star)
Vietnam Service Medal (with 1 Silver Service Star)
Army Service Ribbon
Army Overseas Service Ribbon (with numeral 3)
Rummy
Rumsfeld became an Eagle Scout in 1949, and is the recipient of both the Distinguished Eagle Scout Award from the Boy Scouts of America.[2] and their Silver Buffalo Award in 2006.
Although he did help with this, and for that deserves our unwavering gratitude..
FCC's High Definition Television Advisory Committee (1992 - 1993);
What they have in common....they were both let go for political reasons....
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got next to a bottle of hooch, eh Stringer?
I think Powel is a great man too.
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Hehe....Jameson's to be exact...
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Originally posted by Stringer
Hehe....Jameson's to be exact...
:D
Hope you have a great Christmas
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Back at ya!
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Do I think he's a good Secdef?
Not likely.
Did he make a whole pile of mistakes running the war?
Well of course.
Will many people catch the joke in this post?
Probably not.
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I would love, I mean LOVE to have seen Powell named as SecDef instead of Rummy. Powell actually worries about the man in the field.
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i would too. but sadly, i doubt powell would work in this administration again.
i watched a bio of the guy the other day, he"s a pretty amazing man.
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When Powell was in uniform he was one hell of a stand up guy. A great officer.
A soldiers soldier. Once he traded the uniform in for a suit his capability was halved right away. As time went on he became even less and less capable finally ending his tenure as SecState after a very disappointing performance.
I thank the man for his service but it is well that he has left the world stage.
With regards to the recently retired SecDef:
Rumsfeld served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. In 1957, he transferred to the Ready Reserve and continued his Naval service in flying and administrative assignments as a drilling reservist until 1975. He transferred to the Standby Reserve when he became Secretary of Defense in 1975 and to the Retired Reserve with the rank of Captain in 1989.
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What happened to Wulfie's posts? There were three of them at the bottom of this thread last night....defending Rummie's performance as Secretary of Defence.
This from a guy who was one of the "boots on the ground" in Iraq.
The moderator's nuke them or something? And if so, why? I've seen a lot worse than that on these bbs before.
Just wondering.
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Lute removed them himself, it appears.
This one is done anyway.