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Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 16, 2006, 10:06:18 PM
Interesting footage.

I hate to be critical But isnt it an age old addage that is best to be the one that holds the high ground?

Just seems foolish to me to have your base being overlooked by mountains

Mortar attack (http://www.break.com/movies/incoming.html)
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Dago on December 16, 2006, 10:28:45 PM
Dude, that has been around a couple years.

And that website has a nasty spyware attacking when you click on it.


DO NOT CLICK HIS LINK UNLESS YOU HAVE GOOD SPYWARE PROTECTION[
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 17, 2006, 09:54:28 AM
Really?
Mine didnt pick anything up from it.
What anti spyware you using?
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Maverick on December 17, 2006, 10:50:27 AM
Probably didn't notice the spyware since you're system is already infested with it.

As far as the "high ground" bit is concerned, that is a general truism not an absolute. It depends on what the rest of the terrain is and what the mission or goal is. You can have the high ground but if the goal is to control a river ford or bridge for example and it's out of direct fire range you aren't really controlling it. You control what you occupy, not necessarily what you can just see.

Mortars are ver usefull and can fire over hills as well as onto the back side of them. You don't need to have them on a hill top to use them. Owning the hill top will definitely make your forward observer and indirect fire  more accurate however.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Scatcat on December 17, 2006, 11:34:11 AM
I recall that this was at Baghram AB Afghanistan, The whole valley is surrounded by Mountains.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Dago on December 17, 2006, 12:31:39 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Really?
Mine didnt pick anything up from it.
What anti spyware you using?


Webroot SpySweeper.

It is a neat clip though, I have it on my hard drive from before.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 17, 2006, 01:15:32 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Probably didn't notice the spyware since you're system is already infested with it.

 


dunno bout that.
checking 3 seperate systems with the exaxct same security setups. All 3 went tot he same site within minutes of eachothers. So far this machine showed nothing. One other machine showed spyware. but I suspect its from another site. And Im waiting on the results on the last machine.

so far I've found some cookies on all 3 but nothing particularly heinous or out of the norm
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 17, 2006, 01:36:15 PM
Ok two of the 3 machines including this one came back relitively clean.

The one that did have something wasnt this one and seems to have picked it up several days ago on the 14th.

Dunno what to tell ya. if it was that site. These machines didnt get it

Unless Dagos security is picking up something mine isnt. Which is why I asked what he was running.

I noticed that just because your AV and anti Spyware isnt picking somehting up. Doesnt mean you dont have something.
It just means that that program isnt or might not be picking it up.

I Noticed that none are perfect. So Ill run a couple.
Highjack this and AVG seemt o be about the best.
But each picks up somethig the other missed
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Russian on December 17, 2006, 02:28:45 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Ok two of the 3 machines including this one came back relitively clean.

The one that did have something wasnt this one and seems to have picked it up several days ago on the 14th.

Dunno what to tell ya. if it was that site. These machines didnt get it

Unless Dagos security is picking up something mine isnt. Which is why I asked what he was running.

I noticed that just because your AV and anti Spyware isnt picking somehting up. Doesnt mean you dont have something.
It just means that that program isnt or might not be picking it up.

I Noticed that none are perfect. So Ill run a couple.
Highjack this and AVG seemt o be about the best.
But each picks up somethig the other missed
(Many people confuse cookies, which are technically spyware, for a malicious thins such as adware and malware)
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Vulcan on December 17, 2006, 07:07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Dude, that has been around a couple years.

And that website has a nasty spyware attacking when you click on it.


DO NOT CLICK HIS LINK UNLESS YOU HAVE GOOD SPYWARE PROTECTION[


Errr no. I have good spyware protection and detected nothing. Unless you're panicking over a cookie. What antispyware do you use? I think its lying to you.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Vulcan on December 17, 2006, 07:08:39 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Highjack this and AVG seemt o be about the best.
But each picks up somethig the other missed


FYI AVG blows chunks: http://www.av-comparitives.org
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 17, 2006, 07:45:25 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
FYI AVG blows chunks: http://www.av-comparitives.org


Link doesnt work or you typed in the wrong link. the site that one brought me to however did provide links for
"Full Free Porn Videos
Texas Swingers
Dirty Sex
Adult Sex" and a few other things Skuzzy would throw a caniption if I cut and pasted them here too. LOL

I like AVG
Helped me get rid of a bug a while back one of my daughters friends was kind enough to get me infected with.  That not only didnt my Antivirus pick up but I couldnt get rid of with anything else. Even in Safe mode  Including Adaware, Highjack this, and Spybot S&D.

And just today a kernels88.exe trojan that Antivirus didnt even see on the machine that had something.

Like I said before I noticed that no 1 program seems to find or get everything
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Vulcan on December 17, 2006, 09:12:20 PM
LOL sorry. I keep spelling it wrong... http://www.av-comparatives.org/

Notice AVG has a high rate of false positives. So those "AVG found a virus when xxx didn't" don't mean much.

edit: skuzzy or mpx can you edit my post above to link to http://www.av-comparatives.org/ and not the naughty one?
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Dago on December 17, 2006, 09:46:54 PM
Lets try this.

(http://www.cpinternet.com/~tlong1/spyalert.jpg)

the spyware is ROTATOR.ADALERT.COM

Comes up everytime I click on that link.   Maybe anyone not getting an alert has the alerts turned off?
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Vulcan on December 17, 2006, 10:00:58 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Lets try this.

(http://www.cpinternet.com/~tlong1/spyalert.jpg)

the spyware is ROTATOR.ADALERT.COM

Comes up everytime I click on that link.   Maybe anyone not getting an alert has the alerts turned off?


Err. No.

It is NOT blocking spyware, it is blocking a link to a website "associated" with spyware. Read the warning, now read it again, now read it again.

rotator.adalert.c*m does seem to hand a cookie through and thats about it from what I can tell.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Dago on December 17, 2006, 10:40:08 PM
Yeah, didnt pay much attention, but "adalert" is notorious spyware and seeing that I went with the spyware association.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 18, 2006, 12:12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Vulcan


Notice AVG has a high rate of false positives. So those "AVG found a virus when xxx didn't" don't mean much.



Actually accoding to the November 2006 PDF file listing it listed AVG as having "Very few" False positives
Unless Im missing something

---Edit---

In fact later on in the PDF text it said nd I quote "AVG had only 1 false alarm"


Now Im not saying AVG is the be all end all.
I like using a combination of programs because as I have said a couple of times. Its obvious to me that no one program picks up everything

And it might not mean much that it found somethign the others didnt.
But what ment something to me was 1 file the others found but couldnt get rid of. Even in Safe mode
AVG did
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: Vulcan on December 18, 2006, 03:55:11 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Actually accoding to the November 2006 PDF file listing it listed AVG as having "Very few" False positives
Unless Im missing something

---Edit---

In fact later on in the PDF text it said nd I quote "AVG had only 1 false alarm"


Now Im not saying AVG is the be all end all.
I like using a combination of programs because as I have said a couple of times. Its obvious to me that no one program picks up everything

And it might not mean much that it found somethign the others didnt.
But what ment something to me was 1 file the others found but couldnt get rid of. Even in Safe mode
AVG did


Look at some of the older reports, it got quite high false positives in some of them.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: eagl on December 18, 2006, 04:08:58 AM
Bringing the thread back on topic...  sorta...

If the high ground is irritatingly high mountains, give the enemy the high ground.  While he's playing junior mountain goat, go to his village, rape the women, kill the children, eat all the food, steal anything worth carrying, and then burn the place down.

Yea, it's not the western way of waging war but that's pretty much why we don't actually "win" wars anymore.  Being the good guy is more important than actually winning, so we go in, kill a few thousand people, declare moral victory, and leave the country to those who ARE willing to wage total war.

If it was our own land, then yea I could see us doing the total war plus atrocities thing, but we haven't fought over our own land for quite some time now.  Except for the illegal immigration invasion, but our fed govt has already surrendered so that doesn't count.
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 18, 2006, 07:26:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Vulcan
Look at some of the older reports, it got quite high false positives in some of them.


Im not using the older software.
so why would I be concerned with the older reports?:p
Title: Mortar attack
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 18, 2006, 07:30:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by eagl
Bringing the thread back on topic...  sorta...

If the high ground is irritatingly high mountains, give the enemy the high ground.  While he's playing junior mountain goat, go to his village, rape the women, kill the children, eat all the food, steal anything worth carrying, and then burn the place down.

Yea, it's not the western way of waging war but that's pretty much why we don't actually "win" wars anymore.  Being the good guy is more important than actually winning,  


Amen to that brother