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Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Guppy35 on December 17, 2006, 12:39:54 AM
Top five scoring birds in order.

N1K2 has 18942 Kills of All     N1K2 has 14390 Deaths by All

P-51D has 18472 Kills of All    P-51D has 16812 Deaths by All

Spitfire Mk XVI has 17194 Kills of All  Spitfire Mk XVI has 15774 Deaths by All

La-7 has 15231 Kills of All   La-7 has 12868 Deaths by All

Hurricane Mk IIC has 9329 Kills of All    Hurricane Mk IIC has 5526 Deaths by All


When did the N1K and 51 take over for the 16 and LA?

Amazing that the Hurricane IIc is 5th.  No one else even close to those 5.
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: pluck on December 17, 2006, 12:45:29 AM
that is interesting.  i have seen more 51's in the air, though i thought it was my imagination.  seems like same amount of n1ks.  la7 pilots should be ashamed, as if flying one wasn't enough:) j/k.
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: lagger86 on December 17, 2006, 12:51:00 AM
I would have thought it was the LA-7 followed by whatever is on my six at any given time. Maybe the constant DWEEB calling has stopped a few from the LaLA and spixteen. I dunno...Niki has cannons a plenty and flys rather nice and the P-51 is a great all around plane. I'm trying to get the F6f and the FM-2 up there, but I can't shoot. The death catagory is rising nicely though.
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Kev367th on December 17, 2006, 01:39:10 AM
Isn't the Hurri IIc used a lot in the EW / MW arenas?
Would explain it's sudden popularity.
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Post by: rogerdee on December 17, 2006, 04:36:46 AM
hurricane 11c is the most used aircraft in early.its not perked and its gogt 4x20mm so its always the first plane to be upped at a field
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Treize69 on December 17, 2006, 05:44:44 AM
I think if the ENY keeps going GaGa the way it has, you'll start seeing the P-51B climbing up too.

Probably about 1/3 of the time I'm in during peak hours I'm forced to downgrade to the B from the D.

Until the last of my squaddies log off and I switch sides and break out my altar ego... :t
Title: Re: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Max on December 17, 2006, 07:58:34 AM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Top five scoring birds in order.

N1K2 has 18942 Kills of All     N1K2 has 14390 Deaths by All



Perhaps one of our dual account score hounds has been extremely busy in his Niki :rofl
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Apeking on December 17, 2006, 03:47:29 PM
"Probably about 1/3 of the time I'm in during peak hours I'm forced to downgrade to the B from the D"

(pretends to be veteran player) Downgrade, sir? Downgrade?
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Treize69 on December 17, 2006, 05:58:24 PM
Considering I'm lucky to kill anything with 6 .50s and my stellar marksmanship- yes, losing a pair is a downgrade. :rolleyes:
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Softail on December 17, 2006, 06:24:46 PM
Funny....I've read old threads where "noobs" were encouraged to fly the Niki because it's an "easy ride with 4 cannons and a ton of ammo".  Hell, it can do 500mph in a dive and stall turn like an SOB.  It just can't take bullets well.  I used to fly it often.

The 51 makes sense because it is the "Default" plane, pretty forgiving and once you have your E up not much can catch it high.   Not only that, it is probably a fan favorite (until someone discovers the NIKI and its cannons ;-) ).

Most of the time I fly "base defense" or "de-ack" missions.  Hence, the LA7 and LA5 do nicely.   If I have time, I up a Tiffy however it fly's like a truck for me.  I throw the stick over and find myself saying "come on baby roll .... plllleeeeasssseee!"  But if you get a chunk of someone with those cannons...parts come off quickly ;-).

Personally, I can't keep a damn 109X flying!! I put it into a turn and whoop I am upside down! Wing stalls at 250 mph are very frustrating for me.  So I avoid flying them for the most part.

F6F off the CV because it carries 2x1K bombs and 6 rockets.  Gonna need those for the SB or town.  

BF110 for killing a GV base or dumping ord on a town.

B-24s to precision bomb a base to shreds ;-)


Yeah... Im a bomber/ground attack pilot ;-)  

Never fear if I am on your 6....I can't hit a moving target worth a s**t ;-)  

Softail
Title: Re: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: E25280 on December 17, 2006, 08:42:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
Top five scoring birds in order.

N1K2 has 18942 Kills of All     N1K2 has 14390 Deaths by All

P-51D has 18472 Kills of All    P-51D has 16812 Deaths by All

Spitfire Mk XVI has 17194 Kills of All  Spitfire Mk XVI has 15774 Deaths by All

La-7 has 15231 Kills of All   La-7 has 12868 Deaths by All

Hurricane Mk IIC has 9329 Kills of All    Hurricane Mk IIC has 5526 Deaths by All


When did the N1K and 51 take over for the 16 and LA?

Amazing that the Hurricane IIc is 5th.  No one else even close to those 5.
I took down some stats March-April-May of this year when everyone was complaining that Spixteens and LA7s were all anyone ever saw.  I did it basically to show that the complaints were unjustified.  Using kills and deaths as you did, after removing all GVs and bombers LAs and Spixteens made up just under 20% of all kills and deaths among fighters.  At that time, N1ks and P51s were always in the top 5 along with Typhys.  Hurri IIC was as high as 6th during those four months.

I surmised at the time that the people complaining about never-ending LA7s and Spixteens were seeing a local phenomenon around fighter town, because to my perception they were less numerous than the typhys and ponys.

After the split, we have had no fighter towns to speak of.  Further more, the distances between bases seem farther on some of these smaller maps we have had to see over and over and over.

Thus, birds with high performance but shorter legs are less in demand than those that can both perform and make it to the enemy and back.  This would put the P-51 and N1K to the head of the top 5.

Then what Kev / Rogerdee said about the IIC.

I would guess that the Typhy is probably #6, but that is just a guess (too lazy to look it up myself right now).

Please polk holes . . .
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Hoarach on December 17, 2006, 08:55:14 PM
Excluding the 51 guess people need to have them cannons.

And all are fast except the nik.

No suprise either have lots of heavy firepower or fast. :rolleyes:
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: hubsonfire on December 17, 2006, 09:03:52 PM
The N1K is an excellent vulcher. The 51 is an iconic airplane, and has decent speed, ord load, range, etc. The Spit is possibly the best furball plane, and the La7 is great for chasing down those pesky vulching N1Ks. The Hurri is a good furballer and useful for field defense as well.
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Mako15 on December 17, 2006, 09:53:01 PM
Softail's not joking :)

That being said, I prefer the p51B to the D....It's a better fighter at low level, which is where I spend most of my time...and for some reason I do better with 4x 50s than 6x 50s...odd, eh?
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: jaxxo on December 17, 2006, 10:58:15 PM
"de-ack" missions....

oh the wonderful world of fighter combat
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Tilt on December 18, 2006, 03:19:31 AM
Since a clean & lean 51 can out dive the La7?

Runstang has been born again.

I have no data but the Hurri IIc always seems to hold E better than it ought.
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Wolf14 on December 18, 2006, 03:41:49 AM
I would say its a step up going from the D to the B, but thats just my opinion.

:)
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Laurie on December 18, 2006, 04:24:18 AM
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Originally posted by Treize69
Considering I'm lucky to kill anything with 6 .50s and my stellar marksmanship- yes, losing a pair is a downgrade. :rolleyes:


this helps for a few guys i know, put both convergences to 600/500 and we tend to get a lot more kills outta the B.
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: Charge on December 18, 2006, 05:00:54 AM
"I have no data but the Hurri IIc always seems to hold E better than it ought."

If you mean in a dive so that is my observation too.

If you get to dive into a fight you can briefly catch any plane if you don't dump your E in a steep turn. I don't really understand how it does it with such a thick wing, but hey, same goes with Tiffie and it really was a fast plane. Although their weights are really different so the lighter one should not be able to overcome much of the drag with its lighter weight or less power (thrust).

And of course a good gunner can kill anything from 800yds with those guns.

-C+
Title: Someone explain this one.....
Post by: bozon on December 18, 2006, 06:18:28 AM
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Originally posted by Tilt
I have no data but the Hurri IIc always seems to hold E better than it ought.

I don't know what "ought" means excatly, but I find the H2C looses its speed pretty fast. It is one of the only planes I feel confident to E-drain at high speed and then zoom above when I'm in the Jug. It does not zoom well from high speeds though it hangs vertical for a good long time - enough to aim and kill even if you pull 600-800 yards away in the zoom.