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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: USRanger on December 21, 2006, 01:44:43 PM
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Sweet vid, chk it out:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/305344/destroyer_vs_sub/
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Ahh the good ol' MK-48 ADCAP. Gotta love it.
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I'd like to see a nice CGI battle sequence between a russian Akula (with Shkval torpedos) and a Virginia, Seawolf, or LA class subs. I'm sure the US navy has tactics/procedures for dealing with the Shkval, it'd be neat to see them in action.
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That explosion is amazing. The destroyer almost looked like a little toy being blown up bt an m-80.
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My understanding is that the MK-48 is so devestating because instead of hitting the ship, it detonates a few feet below. Instead of a gas bubble explosion hitting the ship directly (which is compressible and could expend energy into the form of heat against the metal), it pushes the non-compressible water which just hits like a hammer.
Anyone who knows for sure who can say whether I've got that wrong?
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attacking a unmanned destroyer dead in the water sounds like milk-running to me.
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Well, I dunno, just a wee 2,000-tonner. Endless repeat shots from different views and plenty of slow motion. The actual event seems anticlimactic compared to its exaggerated documentation. And of course no fuel or ordnance to go really spectacular.
Just read again about the Battle of the Philippine Sea and the Yamato and Musashi going down. Took lots and lots of bombs and torpedos. No comparison, I know.
For some mysterious reason this thread also brings to mind that massive Russian jet flying boat that would just skim the water. Where did that come from? Must be elves somewhere ...
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Most torpedoes since WWII have the ability to detonate under the keel, like in that video. Does the Royal Australian Navy have ADCAPs?
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It called a pressure wave effect....most mines now use it too. Very deadly, uses vessels mass against itself. The pressure wave basicaly lifts the ship out of the water at a localized point causing the ship "to snap."
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Oh about those Shkval torpedos. Supercavitating tech. has been around for a long time. Its just the press that makes a big deal about it.
Why then hasn't the USN embraced this technology? Well, say you fire that thing in the North Atlantic, then wales humping in Hawaii will know where your at.
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hajo you mean the Russian Ekranoplan dubbed the Caspian sea monster which uses Ground effect to kinda skim/fly above the water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekranoplan
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If im not mistaken its a frigate and not a destroyer..
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Originally posted by john9001
attacking a unmanned destroyer dead in the water sounds like milk-running to me.
Are you saying this is a submarine version of vulching????
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Originally posted by Choocha
Why then hasn't the USN embraced this technology? Well, say you fire that thing in the North Atlantic, then wales humping in Hawaii will know where your at.
That's just a poor excuse :)
Russians are constantly improving the technology and the technological advantage by russians only gets better. Meanwhile the USN isn't doing anything new that the russians haven't already.
If anything, you should not underrate the enemy and boast your own technology as better than theirs. The US technology is already far behind that of the russian IR missiles. Russians also saw the need for an anti-anti-tank missile/rocket defenses long before the US.
and no, I'm not favoring the russians at all, after all they are the most potent enemy of mine. It's just good to know what to expect.
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Originally posted by Fishu
That's just a poor excuse :)
Russians are constantly improving the technology and the technological advantage by russians only gets better.
are you talking about the rusting russian sub fleet? Are any of them still seaworthy?
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(quote) hajo you mean the Russian Ekranoplan dubbed the Caspian sea monster which uses Ground effect to kinda skim/fly above the water (unquote).
Yes, Blank (I'm Halo, not Hajo), that's the big beast I was thinking about. Thanks for the reference.
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Originally posted by john9001
are you talking about the rusting russian sub fleet? Are any of them still seaworthy?
It's the technological knowledge that matters, not what they have built in numbers and which are now left to rust.
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"...the 2,000 ton battleship..."
:rofl
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
"...the 2,000 ton battleship..."
:rofl
and people wonder why the news is so miss-reported. Well it did have guns. :lol
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Originally posted by john9001
attacking a unmanned destroyer dead in the water sounds like milk-running to me.
I bet the bastage landed some perk points too.
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i have never seen a real ship blow up... DAYM:eek:
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Those rocket torpedos are great. Because they move so fast and have magnetic fuses they're basically fire and forget. Well I guess they'd have to be since they haven't wires. "torpedo in the water bearing 123", fire off a shkval heading 123 set heading for 303 and fire off some decoys. The thing is, shkvals are thunderously loud, if you set one off you've alerted every boat in the hemisphere of your presence and location.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
"...the 2,000 ton battleship..."
:rofl
The guy has a future on the Discovrey Channel for sure :D
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Again Supercavitating tech. is old hat. Do some reasearch on the subject. For example a google search would reveal this:
The Rapid Airborne Mine Clearance System (RAMICS) is a targeting, fire control, and gun system which fires a supercavitating projectile as a countermeasure against near surface moored mines. The LIDAR and gun system are mounted on the helicopter. The LIDAR directs the gun fire to the target mine. Mine deflagration utilizes reactive material and kinetic energy of the super cavitating projectile."
Wow the USN may know something on this subject...can it be that they are as good as the mighty Russian Navy?