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Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: bzek74 on December 21, 2006, 02:13:43 PM
Lastnight on 200 there was like a 3 hr long argument about bombing tank town. My two cents on the topic....

The VH's there should be virgin the duration of the map what fun is tank town with no tanks?

But spawn campers should be nuked. Theres no skill in knowing where someone is gonna pop and almost no risk if they get a good spot. The bombing element adds that risk to spawn campers.

It shouldnt even be called TT it should be called spawn racing island.

Seeing as im the worst dive bomber in AH history campers dont have much to worry about from me....but im getting better and hitting a hidden tank is good practice :-p


                                         90prf
                 ( I used to be soo good in AW, what happend! lol )
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 21, 2006, 03:16:22 PM
Why do you need a virgin to fight in TT?  Some type of pagan ritual?



ack-ack
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Masherbrum on December 21, 2006, 03:18:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why do you need a virgin to fight in TT?  Some type of pagan ritual?



ack-ack


Hey you!!! Leave the sheep out of this!
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: RTR on December 21, 2006, 04:00:30 PM
Wait a minute.......where did we get Virgin Sheep from?

Does that mean I need new boots or will the old ones still do?

(I still don't believe they are actually "virgins" though, that's just UN-POSSIBLE!)

RTR
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Nilsen on December 21, 2006, 04:35:49 PM
leave TT for the counterstrike folks. Im sure there are plenty of other targets out there for the jabo folks. Going in with lvl bombing formation is just silly and ruins the fun for the counterstrike crowd..
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Reynolds on December 21, 2006, 04:59:22 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
leave TT for the counterstrike folks. Im sure there are plenty of other targets out there for the jabo folks. Going in with lvl bombing formation is just silly and ruins the fun for the counterstrike crowd..


I remember the BEST 2 maps EVER!!! One was TT, onme was FT. I didnt really give a **** about the TT and FT. What I like was that they were in a crater whose rim was 25,000 feet tall. Sirounding that rim was a RING of V-bases, conected by V-bases. Instead of going to TT and FT, we could roll an endless GV mission around the base, and have more fun than I EVER did in TT. BRING BACK THAT DAMNED MAP!!! lol.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 21, 2006, 06:46:08 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Going in with lvl bombing formation is just silly and ruins the fun for the counterstrike crowd..



...and the virgins.



ack-ack
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: lagger86 on December 21, 2006, 06:56:04 PM
I'm on my way to bomb TT right now....look for my Lancs at around 40k. Be there in a minute, so grab some Alt.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: bj229r on December 21, 2006, 07:50:19 PM
Whats funny is the deck-bomber guys (who usually DON'T tank) bomb TT, bring retaliation to their ground-slogging countrymen--who WEREN'T doing the bombing in the first place:lol
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: 1epic1 on December 21, 2006, 08:51:14 PM
ok...this is a war game...anything goes, i have no idea why you guys are aurguing over this stupid idea...if you dont like bombers in TT too bad, there always will be bombers, its easy kills for them and all you have to do is up a few FLAKs ...as for spawn campers get used to em also, cause HT isnt going to do anything about these "issues" all i say to everyone who complains about this "TOO BAD, dont like it go somewhere else" its a war game, anything goes...just because you make up stupid rules to these stupid FT and TT that you made up in the first place doesnt change the game... if you want constant tank or fighter action go to a flippin FFA H2H room...theres more fights in there in than arenas combined... NOW STOP AURGUING OVER THIS POINTLESS SUBJECT JESUS!


and for these who think it ruins the fun stfu... if you get pissed off then the bombers did their job...all you have to do is respawn no big deal...its a game...its like listening to children fighting over the rules of a "KandiLand" board game...

Its like the circle of life...Spawners get killed by Spawn Campers...Spawn Campers get killed by bombers...Bombers get killed by Flaks...and Flaks get killed by Spawners... and so on....without bombers TT will just be a spawn camp fest...so if ur a spawn camper you deserve to die cause u show no skill in just sitting behind a tank and shooting at them...
theres my 2 cents
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: hubsonfire on December 21, 2006, 09:10:44 PM
Thank you, squeaker, for that refreshing and insightful post.

And, as a reminder to those of you who haven't, spey and neuter your kids.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: RTR on December 21, 2006, 09:47:22 PM
We should spey the sheep too, 'cause we all know they ain't  really virgins.

We got enough wierdo critters running around here without throwing that fat into the fire!

RTR
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Regular on December 21, 2006, 09:51:28 PM
Spawnkill the spawncampers by spawning not in front of the spawncampers.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: TW9 on December 21, 2006, 09:51:38 PM
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Originally posted by RTR


We got enough wierdo critters running around here without throwing that fat into the fire!

RTR


:noid
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: REP0MAN on December 21, 2006, 10:13:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hubsonfire[/i]
Thank you, squeaker, for that refreshing and insightful post.


Don't forget DT's on the wINgs for teh town!!!!111











......and a lollipop. :aok


Oh yeah, TW9, sorry for calling you a n00b a few weeks back. I get stoopid sometimes :)
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Reynolds on December 21, 2006, 10:17:42 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Thank you, squeaker, for that refreshing and insightful post.

And, as a reminder to those of you who haven't, spey and neuter your kids.


I am going to assume that by sqeaker you mean 1epic1?

He has a real point. I spawn into TT. I get spawn camped, so I flank the enemies, and spawn camp then. In turn I get spawncamp sniped. I respawn only to be spawn camped by the guy I spawn camped for spawn camping me. I get pissed, so I up an attack craft and bomb them, only to be killed by flak who I then get back at by flattening their V-base, so they then kill me with fighters who I get back at by bombing their airbase. Once thats done, I relax and got back to TT where I got spawn camped starting it all over again. Its a cycle. It happens. In real life, if you had a bunch of tanks in front of you, and you needed to get through, but they kept killing your tanks, what do you do? Bomb them. If your tanks are getting bombed, what do you do? Intercept bombers. If your bombers are getting intercepted, what do you do? Defend them with AA fire. If AA fire is killing your fighters, what do you do? send tanks to kill them. If your flak is getting killed by tanks, what do you do? bomb the tanks...
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Meatwad on December 21, 2006, 11:19:52 PM
That would make me want to bomb TT just to upset the kids.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Reynolds on December 21, 2006, 11:43:58 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
That would make me want to bomb TT just to upset the kids.


You calling me a kid?
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: hubsonfire on December 22, 2006, 02:05:47 AM
Reynolds, mainly what I mean is that lan should be speyed.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 22, 2006, 04:19:36 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
You calling me a kid?



well, aren't you?


ack-ack
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: sgt203 on December 22, 2006, 05:16:35 AM
I could care less about bombers, attack aircraft etc killing GV's fighting at TT
it is part of the game...

The dropping of VH's at TT is another thing as I just dont see the point..

The field is not needed for the winning of the war and is not used to spawn into anything where it poses a threat to anything other than TT..

The only logical purpose I can see of is if one side is camped to the point it is impossible to get anything up at all in their spawn but thats about it..

I was at TT having a good ole time when the VH was dropped.. Just asked a bit on 200 as to why it was necessary and the response was "to hear the whines on 200"..

Just as those who like to furball have complained about "griefers" coming in and killing a CV that was supporting a enjoyable furball this is no different..

But to each their own the VH goes down I can do something else NP :aok
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Husky01 on December 22, 2006, 06:07:58 AM
<---I r de bestest spawn camper of dem all!:t
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: bongaroo on December 22, 2006, 06:49:07 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why do you need a virgin to fight in TT?  Some type of pagan ritual?



ack-ack


i loled.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: bj229r on December 22, 2006, 08:10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
I am going to assume that by sqeaker you mean 1epic1?

He has a real point. I spawn into TT. I get spawn camped, so I flank the enemies, and spawn camp then. In turn I get spawncamp sniped. I respawn only to be spawn camped by the guy I spawn camped for spawn camping me. I get pissed, so I up an attack craft and bomb them, only to be killed by flak who I then get back at by flattening their V-base, so they then kill me with fighters who I get back at by bombing their airbase. Once thats done, I relax and got back to TT where I got spawn camped starting it all over again. Its a cycle. It happens. In real life, if you had a bunch of tanks in front of you, and you needed to get through, but they kept killing your tanks, what do you do? Bomb them. If your tanks are getting bombed, what do you do? Intercept bombers. If your bombers are getting intercepted, what do you do? Defend them with AA fire. If AA fire is killing your fighters, what do you do? send tanks to kill them. If your flak is getting killed by tanks, what do you do? bomb the tanks...


Up until that point I was ok with your assessment--tanking in TT is just mindless fun, and has no real part in overall strategic play, until reset is near--your reaction of bombing the guy who plinked you is juvenile--drive a tiger up from the v base--you can whack his pepe from 3k:aok
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: scottydawg on December 22, 2006, 08:17:38 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
I get spawn camped, so I flank the enemies, and spawn camp then. In turn I get spawncamp sniped. I respawn only to be spawn camped by the guy I spawn camped for spawn camping me.


Wait, what? Seriously.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Reynolds on December 22, 2006, 12:42:01 PM
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Originally posted by bj229r
Up until that point I was ok with your assessment--tanking in TT is just mindless fun, and has no real part in overall strategic play, until reset is near--your reaction of bombing the guy who plinked you is juvenile--drive a tiger up from the v base--you can whack his pepe from 3k:aok


lol. You are teh funnney! I learned LONG ago, Tigers in TT are a bad idea, because not only are they the number one target of other tanks, but also of bombers and attack craft. EVERYONE goes for the Tiger.

And, it IS a strategic point, because there are always people who spawn into TT, drive to YOUR V-base, and capture it (Normally Rooks) and ocne they have all of the V-bases, they move on the the airbases. BAM! Your out a VERY convinient airbase.

Scotty: I spawn. Before my engine even starts,  i get killed. I try two more times to see if I can get an opening. Nothing. Keep trying, and soon enough I get one, but I dont go foreward. I flank the feild to get behind the guys who were shooting me. They ARE spawn camping, just from in front. There is no difference between behind and in front. Either way, they still kill you before you can move tou counter them. SO, I flank them, take them out, only to get bombed, or mroe commonly sniped by one of the guys I jsut killed, who is now driving from the V-base because he knows im there. So, I respawn only to be again killed by the guy who just got me because he is now pounding the spawn again.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: scottydawg on December 22, 2006, 12:56:07 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Scotty: I spawn. Before my engine even starts,  i get killed.  


I think you just summed up the entirety of ground war in AH2, and the reason I hardly ever ride GVs.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Bronk on December 22, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
Hmm I think THIS  fits the thread nicely . :D


Enjoy

(http://www.geocities.com/policetools/funny.gif)






Bronk

Edit: not my work and shamelessly ripped off. :p
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: scottydawg on December 22, 2006, 01:00:27 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Hmm I think THIS  fits the thread nicely . :D

Edit: not my work and shamelessly ripped off. :p


Nice.  I think we just upped the ante in the 'nerdy inside joke' animated GIF contest.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Reynolds on December 22, 2006, 01:04:10 PM
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Originally posted by scottydawg
Nice.  I think we just upped the ante in the 'nerdy inside joke' animated GIF contest.


:( I like my La-7 one, but how do I make it with animated GIF? Any particular programs?
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: scottydawg on December 22, 2006, 01:06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
:( I like my La-7 one, but how do I make it with animated GIF? Any particular programs?


You could start by googling 'free animated gif creator'. :)

Dunno if ImageReady does it.
Title: Spawn Camping in TT
Post by: TalonX on December 22, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
The entire thing is a spawn camp. I can shoot from where I spawn, to either other spawn point.  The trick is maneuvering off the spawn point to a place of some concealment.

The tide ebbs and flows as each side gets an advantage.  

I truly am tired of the excuse of bombing being spawn camping.  Break the spawn with GVs, like we do.  

And for God's sake, stop bombing the hangars.   I wish HT would make them indestructible, and uncapturable.   There is no strategic value to that island.

Title: Re: Spawn Camping in TT
Post by: Reynolds on December 22, 2006, 04:23:06 PM
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Originally posted by TalonX
The entire thing is a spawn camp. I can shoot from where I spawn, to either other spawn point.  The trick is maneuvering off the spawn point to a place of some concealment.

The tide ebbs and flows as each side gets an advantage.  

I truly am tired of the excuse of bombing being spawn camping.  Break the spawn with GVs, like we do.  

And for God's sake, stop bombing the hangars.   I wish HT would make them indestructible, and uncapturable.   There is no strategic value to that island.



I launch 60% of my bombing runs on the mainlands from the aribase on that island. It has great strategic value.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Meatwad on December 22, 2006, 04:59:17 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
You calling me a kid?


Depends if you are 16 and under. Those are the best ones to bomb/vulch
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Reynolds on December 22, 2006, 05:20:30 PM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Depends if you are 16 and under. Those are the best ones to bomb/vulch


<------ 14. Yeah, I hate gettin bombed/vulched, and yet im still honorable enough not to do it back... go figure.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Meatwad on December 22, 2006, 05:31:44 PM
Thats good, usually they get on world/white text and go crazy. :rofl
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Bode on December 22, 2006, 06:16:16 PM
I wish HTC would get rid of the stupid Map, TT is a waste of manpower to Spawn campers. GVs can be used in a much more offencive ablity. Plus a couple GVs in a town can stop a take over thus a defensive ablity. And Any base on the Map is a target. GVers do not have exclusive rights to any Base. HTC can we please for Christmas get some new maps.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: Lusche on December 22, 2006, 06:41:37 PM
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Originally posted by Bode
I wish HTC would get rid of the stupid Map, TT is a waste of manpower  


Translation: People do not play the game the way I do, they donīt fight the battles I declare to be important. We have to win teh war!!! Please help me, HT!


:D



(Iīm basically a landgrabber too, but when TT is up, I will gladly spend some hours there for a bit GV fun. for most small maps definitely lack real opportuninties for GV warfare)
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: FrodeMk3 on December 23, 2006, 03:41:41 AM
One thing that Bode is right about...Some more maps sure would be nice.
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: CHECKERS on December 23, 2006, 07:49:33 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Why do you need a virgin to fight in TT?  Some type of pagan ritual?



ack-ack
 

   A Kill Has Been Recorded :t


   Bob/CHECKERS
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: BlauK on December 23, 2006, 08:05:17 AM
LOL... just turn off ch200 and do what you enjoy in the game :)

Or should one begin whining every time he is killed.. "WAAAH.. I came here to shoot others, not to be shot down. Quit shooting at me.. WAAAH!!!"

There are always other options than to take-off from a vulched base or spawn again and again to a camped spawn. The enemy will only stay there as long as they have some targets ;)

And if you dont like bombers above yuo , just ask some frindly fighters to come for easy kills ;)
Title: The great TT debate.
Post by: porkfrog on December 23, 2006, 11:34:56 AM
can we get back to those VIRGINS we were talking about????
Title: Re: Re: Spawn Camping in TT
Post by: TalonX on December 23, 2006, 01:44:50 PM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
I launch 60% of my bombing runs on the mainlands from the aribase on that island. It has great strategic value.


You don't launch from the VH's.   Sheeesh.