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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: x0847Marine on December 22, 2006, 07:28:46 PM
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Thought this might interest a few of you, esp if in Ca... when can you liberate your car from a repair shop?
My xgf calls me with a long story about how these shady mofos were holding her car hostage at a repair shop, being a skinny 95lb waif shes not that intimidating despite her 50lbs of mouth.
This is a civil matter, 100%, however under Ca law repair shops can legally keep your car, while demanding payment, as long as they have a signed work order / authorization.
Well... too bad for these yahoos they didn't have a signed work order, they towed & repaired it... but never asked her to sign anything. I argued with them to no avail, they even threatened me with a monkey wrench. This made me happy because I knew LA Sheriffs, not LAPD, would be responding... Deputies are infamous for taking zero feces, LAPD on the other hand eats it by the handful..
The Sheriff Deputy arrived 30 min later to keep the peace while I recovered the vehicle, he repeated the exact same things as I had "No work order, no car", the grease monkeys actually took an aggressive stance with the lone deputy, they were fuming at being proven dead wrong and swore the car wasn't moving 1 inch... big mistake, 4 min later 6 Sheriff units were there placing everyone in cuffs... it was beautiful.
Enter one of those great moments in life... I walked, with pep, past the former wrench yielding trash talking grease monkey with a poop eating grin making sure the car keys in my hand rattled off a tune, I got in her newly repaired car and drove out with a sarcastic "Happy holidays jerkoffs" while extending my middle finger.
Upsetting the Sheriffs was a bad call, the deputies found their business license had expired, cited the owner and locked them out... 2 others went to county jail for the weekend on warrants.
My dreary holidays will now be "warm'n fuzzy", in more ways than one. They can still claim a verbal agreement was made and sue her, until then they have been pwned.
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Bravo!!!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Stupid grease monkeys, I guess their little BS, rip the public off game came to an end.
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So, M36, what was it in this post that made you assume there was a rip-off going on?
xMarine, I didn't catch your explanation as to why its OK to not pay for services rendered? Or did I miss something?
culero
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maybe they overcharged and wanted it paid in full... maybe they did unauthorized or bogus repairs... maybe they wanted the extra daily storage fee...
but the main point is they were operating illegally, acting intimidating and making physical threats. so they got what they deserved. they should still be paid for whatever valid (and authorized) repairs were made at reasonable market rates.
i'd be more concerned about them knowing where the car resides with its owner, tho'
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What culero said. Basically you are saying that she didn't pay for the repairs, then you drove off with a chit-eating grin on your face in her newly repaired car.
Based just on what you have written, I'd have to say that you are the stunninghunk.
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xMarine did you ever get your million dollars?
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Originally posted by ByeBye
What culero said. Basically you are saying that she didn't pay for the repairs, then you drove off with a chit-eating grin on your face in her newly repaired car.
Based just on what you have written, I'd have to say that you are the stunninghunk.
Well lets not go that far, he really didn't tell us anything about why they were keeping the car at all.
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
Well... too bad for these yahoos they didn't have a signed work order, they towed & repaired it... but never asked her to sign anything.
So let me get this straight. They towed her car and repaired it against her will. Did she call them out to tow it?
They sure sound like a bunch of crooks! :rolleyes:
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This sounds pretty fishy....flamboyant...and a lot of other colorful metaphors.
So "why" was her car being held "hostage"?
Details...
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we never pulled a car into the shop without a signed work order, no tiky, no worky.
and we never released a car without a "paid in full".
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Originally posted by john9001
we never pulled a car into the shop without a signed work order, no tiky, no worky.
and we never released a car without a "paid in full".
True in all the shops ive worked over the years ... no sig / no estimate ... no workie ... this applyed to most customers except for the long time regulars and they alway were givin a phone call w/ est befor any work started along with carrying a signature file/account for them.
In this state its illegal to make repairs with doing the pryor .
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Wait, you need a license to run a business these days?
Maybe the revolution is closer then I thought.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Wait, you need a license to run a business these days?
Maybe the revolution is closer then I thought.
i heard you need a license to go fishn, but i don't know why, it aint like you have to pass a test or nothing.
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You need a license to trim other peoples finger nails, I suppose that applies to ones small children too.
Man for a socialist country we sure don't see much bang for our buck.
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Originally posted by culero
So, M36, what was it in this post that made you assume there was a rip-off going on?
xMarine, I didn't catch your explanation as to why its OK to not pay for services rendered? Or did I miss something?
culero
indeed, was the car not servicable before and now it's running? you left without leaving any form of payment? the work has no value? I sure hope this is another fantasy bs story. If I were that shop owner I'd file a lien on that car right now.
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Originally posted by storch
indeed, was the car not servicable before and now it's running? you left without leaving any form of payment? the work has no value? I sure hope this is another fantasy bs story. If I were that shop owner I'd file a lien on that car right now.
So if I paint your house without authorization, you are still required to pay me because my paint job had value?
I gotta get me a contractors licence.
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Looks like a case for Judge Judy.
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I smell BS. Why didn't you just buy her a new car? You're rich, right?
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Originally posted by culero
So, M36, what was it in this post that made you assume there was a rip-off going on?
xMarine, I didn't catch your explanation as to why its OK to not pay for services rendered? Or did I miss something?
culero
Well the long story was....
She called AAA when her car wouldn't start, then these dudes showed up explaining to her she needed to call and cancel because their radio wasn't working, which she did. The AAA dispatcher even told her the truck wasnt there yet, but they apparently had her car hooked up and ready to go... she was just happy to have a truck there and cancelled the AAA call even though she was suspicious. In their rush they failed to get her to sign a work order.
1 day later she gets a call telling her the car is really messed up and will cost $500, when she went to get it they demanded $1200 and threatened to put a lien on the car, or "unrepair" it.. then one of them hinted she could work it off in other ways.
Around here we call these dudes the "Glendale AMI", Armenian Mechanized Infantry, but they call themselves the Armenian Mafia. This is their scam, they jump AAA calls and extort $$ from people, mostly clueless Women and most of the time its 100% legal if they have a valid work order, and the AAA customer cancells the call... its a gypsy scam. They just pulled it on the wrong people this time and got pwned.
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In that case.... wtfg Marine :aok
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How do they jump the AAA call? Do they listen in on cell phone conversations?
Les
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Originally posted by Suave
xMarine did you ever get your million dollars?
The cash I got was 1 check with 19 years interest.. even though I frikn worked for the .feds and a local .gov, the Indian affairs branch of the .gov lost my address 19 years ago which is how I got on the list.
Not a million, but I could pay cash for a new VW GTI.. so it was very decent chunk of free $$. I get semi regular payments when the balance reaches a certain amount. Thanks for being part Hopi dad!
There is still 10s of millions of dollars owed to people like me, but the .gov doesn't exactly know who should get it.. so I'm on another list with a few family members I never heard of... thats the part I'm excited about, but theres no telling how long it'll take. Theres 1 class action suit, I know of, to force the .gov into settling the accounts.. so who knows. I may not even have enough native American blood to qualify for that fund, but I can make a claim on my fathers estate.
I'm happy as a pig in poop with the $$ I already got...
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Originally posted by Leslie
How do they jump the AAA call? Do they listen in on cell phone conversations?
Les
Thats an excellant question, I dont know. These AMI guys are like tow truck / repair shop roaches, my guess is that they have a legit AAA shop somewhere, but divert calls to their buddies if closer. These dudes got busted in Burbank a few years back; they put up bogus "No parking" signs in private lots after people parked and were towing 10-15 cars a night.
These a holes did a real job on my xGF, suggesting she use their phone to call friends to borrow $$, which is why she called me in tears. I told her to sign nothing and tell them I had the extra cash, I knew right away she was getting scammed.
They tried to take her to the ATM to see how much more she could get, "use your overdraft", and pressured her "just put it on a credit card", then 1 of them finally hinted some sex, for all 4 of the dirt-bag scum, plus $500 should cover it. Thats what set me off, I was pi55ed off and talked copious amounts of trash to these pukes to rile them up before the Sheriffs arrived.
I asked them if they got lost on their way to the Fallujah pimp festival, or had been scuicide bomber rejects.. then I started in on how theyd have to wait to blow themselves up because no 12 virgins would have them until they showered. I told one dude he smelled dead, "trying to trick the virgins huh?" Oh man, lol... they didn't like.
The Sheriffs were great btw, they were all wooing over my x, they felt for her which was cool... and knowing these dudes were AMI, I could tell the deputies were thoroughly enjoying putting the boot to the would be scammers. My being a graduate of the Sheriffs academy didnt hurt either.
I can only imagine how many people they have ripped off, these guys were fast talking and comfortable with their game.. and they all had brand new cars, lowered Mitsubishi's with ugly graphics, fins and other absurd garbage to go with the armo hip hop clothes, gaudy jewelry and exposed chest pubic hair thanks to the button down shirt .. way more $$ than taste for sure, they seriously looked like stereotypical assclowns from a low budget comedy.
I'm still lmao at those morons, the two who are in jail gotta be losing it... a weekend in LA County is downright dangerous, and until they renew their business license, "closed for the holidays"
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Sounds like xmarine was really lobbying for a Darwin award there but a freak accident took it away from his hands. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Nilsen
In that case.... wtfg Marine :aok
Ahh, yes. Sounds like justice is being dispensed, WTFG :)
culero
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
Well the long story was....
She called AAA when her car wouldn't start, then these dudes showed up explaining to her she needed to call and cancel because their radio wasn't working, which she did. The AAA dispatcher even told her the truck wasnt there yet, but they apparently had her car hooked up and ready to go... she was just happy to have a truck there and cancelled the AAA call even though she was suspicious. In their rush they failed to get her to sign a work order.
1 day later she gets a call telling her the car is really messed up and will cost $500, when she went to get it they demanded $1200 and threatened to put a lien on the car, or "unrepair" it.. then one of them hinted she could work it off in other ways.
Around here we call these dudes the "Glendale AMI", Armenian Mechanized Infantry, but they call themselves the Armenian Mafia. This is their scam, they jump AAA calls and extort $$ from people, mostly clueless Women and most of the time its 100% legal if they have a valid work order, and the AAA customer cancells the call... its a gypsy scam. They just pulled it on the wrong people this time and got pwned.
This is not the first sad story of this watermelon I have heard about here in SoCal....
It is an AMI, rip off .... the Valley is full of these bastards doing this form of scam , "Like the lawyer just happens to be at the car accident scam" ......
Kudo's XM
(to bad you could not have found a way to shove the wrench up the monkeys butt for him ....an still got the assist from the Sheriff's office ).....
AAA dispatchers are for the most part clueless dolts, located in San Diego...
They wouldn't have a clue where Victory & Lakershim Blvds. are located on their best day ... I know for a fact they don't even use Thomas Guides ....
Bob/CHECKERS
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
I asked them if they got lost on their way to the Fallujah pimp festival, or had been scuicide bomber rejects.. then I started in on how theyd have to wait to blow themselves up because no 12 virgins would have them until they showered. I told one dude he smelled dead, "trying to trick the virgins huh?" Oh man, lol... they didn't like.
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Sounds like a gypsy type scam for sure, and I'm glad you got them shut down, I know my in-laws family in Italy hate the Gypsies that come from across the Adriatic.....But the next time you go all Archie Bunker on an Armenian, make sure you get the religious bigotry right.......
as well as the first nation to adopt Christianity as its official religion. Although Armenia is constitutionally a secular state, the Christian faith plays a major role in both its history and the identification of the Armenian people.
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I don't believe that xmarine can buy a pack of smokes without some sort of life or death struggle involving guns and police and him saving the day by being such a tough guy and reminding everyone that he was once a cop.
lazs
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LOL Lazs....:rofl
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:rofl lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't believe that xmarine can buy a pack of smokes without some sort of life or death struggle involving guns and police and him saving the day by being such a tough guy and reminding everyone that he was once a cop.
lazs
:rofl
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So, M36, what was it in this post that made you assume there was a rip-off going on?
Satisfied culero? I know you didnt catch it all during the first post. I guess I was able to.
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Originally posted by M36
Satisfied culero? I know you didnt catch it all during the first post. I guess I was able to.
There was nothing in the first post that said there was a rip-off going on. Its perfectly legitimate for a repair shop to require payment before releasing a vehicle.
culero
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There was nothing in the first post that said there was a rip-off going on. Its perfectly legitimate for a repair shop to require payment before releasing a vehicle.
If the work wasn't authorized and the work was done anyway, how is this legitimate?
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Originally posted by M36
If the work wasn't authorized and the work was done anyway, how is this legitimate?
The first post contained no reference to work that was not authorized.
Lazs nailed this guy. :lol
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indeed the story changed from the first post to the second one with the explanation.
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Well... too bad for these yahoos they didn't have a signed work order, they towed & repaired it... but never asked her to sign anything.
This is from the first post. This tells me the work wasnt authorized and doing work that is not authorized was the garages fault.
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Originally posted by M36
This is from the first post. This tells me the work wasnt authorized and doing work that is not authorized was the garages fault.
Maybe if you're Karnak. All that says is that there's no signature on a repair order.
culero
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that quote comes across as one taking advantage of another over a technicality. the whole story smacks of sharp practice, if not a bit melodramatic, our hero gets the shop closed down and two dangerous wrench wielding menaces to society get sent to jail on outstanding warrants. back to the opening lines. without initially knowing more it's easy to see the conflict from varying points of view and to draw very different conclusions. I would have negotiated (maybe the protagonist did negotiate but called it arguing) with the owner if he did indeed perform work. calling the guy scum only because he's a foreigner is pretty stupid also. as for me I doubt I would call the police, flip the guy off and drive away laughing.
I had some work done on a truck and was quoted a sum. when I went to pick the truck up they wanted to charge me x2. I asked the girl why qoute one figure then bill twice as much. her boss (a young guy) comes out immediately, sweating big drops because I also had not signed a work order. he explained that the girl had misqouted me over the phone, produced all the replaced parts, lifted the truck, showed me all the new shiny parts that were installed and so forth. I was satisfied with the answer and paid up. as I was paying up the owner who was listening in the back gave me a 25% discount. that was ten+ years ago, today I have a great friend who is also my vehicle's maintenance provider. that's the only place we take our trucks and personal vehicles. all over a potentially ugly dispute which was handled very well by the shop. it helped that they were dealing with a reasonable customer though.
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Maybe if you're Karnak.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Good one!!!!!
:noid
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You should have got the car (remember... I said "cat") back Ninja style.
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Bull**** story or not I liked it. Ive run in to more dishonest mechanics than some one who will honestly fix your vehicle.
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Originally posted by rpm
I smell BS. Why didn't you just buy her a new car? You're rich, right?
I would have, but fueling my jet is just too expensive these days, and the pigmy slaves at my plantation all died of starvation, so I had to hire new pigmy hunters.
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I like this story, its like an early episode of walker texas ranger, but more uplifting as Xmarine got his deeds accomplished through using his brain, and Walker always had to resort to violence like kicking people in the head, though the underlying menace of xmarines Native american Ninja powers helped him stare these baddies down til Uniformed backup arrived. This story also is blessed with proper villians, who doesnt hate gypsies and want to see them get their comeuppance. The conclusion as he drives into the sunset in a perfectly repaired car for his girl, while the villians gnash their teeth in the back of a squad car is classic and uplifting in this holiday time, kinda like Home Alone's ending. Xmarine like a modern Billy Jack is always there when needed.
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if i called the police for something like that, they'd tell me to go to small claims court, i don't have the "connections" to warrant six deputy's.
"Xmarine like a modern Billy Jack is always there when needed"
one tin soldier rides away.
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pooh... I believe he does live in hollywood and he does have plenty of time to watch tv in the daytime. I don't think he has a job.
lazs
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lazs would have had some of his good buddy 'boys' from a mc club show up. Well those that are not in prison. :D
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I don't know how it works in cali but i used to drive a AAA tow truck in the midwest. This is a problem everywhere. We always called these aholes road pirates. What they do is they get scanner to pick up the frequency that AAA uses to dispatch there trucks. Then they try to get there before the real truck does. Many times they are gone with the customers car before we could even get there. More than once i showed up on a scene and pirate was loading our customers car onto a truck. Every time the customer had no idea that they were not AAA. They wait until they have the car on there truck and try to extort money out of them. Most of the time when i called them on it made a stink they would stick their tail between there legs and leave but once or twice one of these guys tried to get physical. Always make sure when a tow truck shows up that they from the service you call. Point of info though if you have roadside assistance from about and company be it auto manufacturer or cell phone ect. 99 percent of the time you will get a AAA truck because the companies contract out to them. Most of the people on here won't probably have a problem because they are men and are not easy targets. Tell your daughters and wives though that if they are not sure get in the car lock the doors and call AAA. Tell them if anything is funny not to hesitate to call the police for help. All reputable tow companies have good relations with local law enforcement and will not be afraid to do there job while cops are on the scene. Many non reputable companies have scumbags working for them that will do things like off to trade sex for the bill and it is much better in my opinion to have the police there when you don't need them than feel stupid for calling them and have something really bad happen to a daughter or wife.
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I love it when the law works:)
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Originally posted by ByeBye
What culero said. Basically you are saying that she didn't pay for the repairs, then you drove off with a chit-eating grin on your face in her newly repaired car.
Based just on what you have written, I'd have to say that you are the stunninghunk.
NUKE they repaired the car without permission..
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Hawker25 with 26 posts from the republic of texas is right.
Protect the little ladies from the pirates!
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Originally posted by Hawker25
I don't know how it works in cali but i used to drive a AAA tow truck in the midwest. This is a problem everywhere. We always called these aholes road pirates. What they do is they get scanner to pick up the frequency that AAA uses to dispatch there trucks. Then they try to get there before the real truck does. Many times they are gone with the customers car before we could even get there. More than once i showed up on a scene and pirate was loading our customers car onto a truck. Every time the customer had no idea that they were not AAA. They wait until they have the car on there truck and try to extort money out of them. Most of the time when i called them on it made a stink they would stick their tail between there legs and leave but once or twice one of these guys tried to get physical. Always make sure when a tow truck shows up that they from the service you call. Point of info though if you have roadside assistance from about and company be it auto manufacturer or cell phone ect. 99 percent of the time you will get a AAA truck because the companies contract out to them. Most of the people on here won't probably have a problem because they are men and are not easy targets.
I recall an A-Team episode of this very thing happening. :noid
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I recall an A-Team episode of this very thing happening. :noid
Now what we need is a guy who says his wife called him after AAA and he beat the Gypsypiratemobsters to her car and fixed it himself with a can of hairspray, a toothpick, and a heater module from a toaster. And with McGuyver,The A-Team, and Walker Texas Ranger we'd have a triple play of classic tv, now in daytime syndication.
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Walker Texas Ranger would not have called six backups, walker would have kung foo'd them all himself.
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Originally posted by Hawker25
I don't know how it works in cali but i used to drive a AAA tow truck in the midwest. This is a problem everywhere. We always called these aholes road pirates. What they do is they get scanner to pick up the frequency that AAA uses to dispatch there trucks. Then they try to get there before the real truck does. Many times they are gone with the customers car before we could even get there. More than once i showed up on a scene and pirate was loading our customers car onto a truck. Every time the customer had no idea that they were not AAA. They wait until they have the car on there truck and try to extort money out of them. Most of the time when i called them on it made a stink they would stick their tail between there legs and leave but once or twice one of these guys tried to get physical. Always make sure when a tow truck shows up that they from the service you call. Point of info though if you have roadside assistance from about and company be it auto manufacturer or cell phone ect. 99 percent of the time you will get a AAA truck because the companies contract out to them. Most of the people on here won't probably have a problem because they are men and are not easy targets. Tell your daughters and wives though that if they are not sure get in the car lock the doors and call AAA. Tell them if anything is funny not to hesitate to call the police for help. All reputable tow companies have good relations with local law enforcement and will not be afraid to do there job while cops are on the scene. Many non reputable companies have scumbags working for them that will do things like off to trade sex for the bill and it is much better in my opinion to have the police there when you don't need them than feel stupid for calling them and have something really bad happen to a daughter or wife.
Thanks for posting that Hawker25
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Originally posted by Pooh21
I like this story, its like an early episode of walker texas ranger, but more uplifting as Xmarine got his deeds accomplished through using his brain, and Walker always had to resort to violence like kicking people in the head, though the underlying menace of xmarines Native american Ninja powers helped him stare these baddies down til Uniformed backup arrived. This story also is blessed with proper villians, who doesnt hate gypsies and want to see them get their comeuppance. The conclusion as he drives into the sunset in a perfectly repaired car for his girl, while the villians gnash their teeth in the back of a squad car is classic and uplifting in this holiday time, kinda like Home Alone's ending. Xmarine like a modern Billy Jack is always there when needed.
:D :rofl :D
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I had an accident 8 years ago(my fault) that totalled my Mazda 323 and moderately damaged a lady's Minivan...I called the Police & CAA and a tow truck was on it's way...This is a story of a corrupt pos cop and his buddy's repair shop.
Well,the cop shows up..i explain what happened(admitted it was my fault...trying to cross 2 lanes of gridlock traffic from a music store exit,a lady in another minivan waved it ok for me to cross through the gap...right into an oncoming vehicle travelling in the suicide lane..dough!)
Not long after a tow truck shows up and starts to hook up my car..I approach and he tells me he's not CAA...I ask him to release my car as i have my own tow on it's way...The COP says "This guy owns a body shop and will have your car repaired in 3 days"...I tell the COP i have a friend who has a repair shop and have called for CAA.
This infuriated the poor underpaid contstable..He lost it"Why didn't you tell me u called CAA!!!"..etc
The COP looks at his buddy as he lowers down my car says"I'll get u the next one."
So infuriated was this pig that he wasn't getting his cut from the chop shop that he left without even issuing me any sort of ticket...The CCA guy shows up and tells me that sort of thing goes on all the time.