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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: mamba2 on December 26, 2006, 08:57:54 PM
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Hiya guys, I just started a thread of where we can talk about making static models of fighters, bombers, transports, etc. of ww2. Tomorrow, I will have a couple of pictures of a ME262 a1-a that I just finished tonight! So please reply with my work so i can fix the problems and make my next couple of models better. Next: I will work on a b17-F, then a ME163, then a Bird Cage F4U-1 Corsair, then a P51D Mustang, then a HE-111, and finally a very detailed model(difficulty level is 5 which is for ages 21 and up) of a JU-53. I am very excited on working on these and please show some pics of what you're working on guys.
TY and have a happy new year!:aok
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Pictures are coming so please be patient.....
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"Hiya guys, I just started a thread of where we can talk about making static models of fighters, bombers, transports, etc. of ww2."
Well, where is it? Is this the thread? My prediction is that you will finish part of the B17 and then you will get to the turrets and you'll give up. It is part of growing up. You are so full of enthusiasm that you can't wait to take pictures of your models, but that will fade away and eventually you'll discover girls. You'll meet a girl, tell her that you will love her forever, but it's nonsense. The only friend a man needs is the bottle. Jack Daniels is always there. Carry on.
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i use to have half the luftwaffe sitting in my room and most the pacific fleet. only thing left is a b-29 and b-17
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On the subject of plastic models... What brand is the best to buy (Based on quality and authenticity)
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Originally posted by Apeking
"Hiya guys, I just started a thread of where we can talk about making static models of fighters, bombers, transports, etc. of ww2."
Well, where is it? Is this the thread? My prediction is that you will finish part of the B17 and then you will get to the turrets and you'll give up. It is part of growing up. You are so full of enthusiasm that you can't wait to take pictures of your models, but that will fade away and eventually you'll discover girls. You'll meet a girl, tell her that you will love her forever, but it's nonsense. The only friend a man needs is the bottle. Jack Daniels is always there. Carry on.
So do you usually try to come off as a condescending stuck up sticky beak??
Like this one from the chirstmas thread....
"Unlike everybody else reading this, I got a bottle of mead, which I will start to drink in the very near future. This thread is going to turn into a snapshot of the wants and desires of white middle-class America."
Or how about this one from the B20 vs ShvAk thread...
"I often find myself at dinner parties, and the conversation turns to aircraft armaments of WW2, and I do not want to make an embarassing faux pas in front of the other guests."
Speaking of growing up.....
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I like Tamiya. Their most recent kits especially are very nicely detailed.
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Originally posted by Apeking
"Hiya guys, I just started a thread of where we can talk about making static models of fighters, bombers, transports, etc. of ww2."
Well, where is it? Is this the thread? My prediction is that you will finish part of the B17 and then you will get to the turrets and you'll give up. It is part of growing up. You are so full of enthusiasm that you can't wait to take pictures of your models, but that will fade away and eventually you'll discover girls. You'll meet a girl, tell her that you will love her forever, but it's nonsense. The only friend a man needs is the bottle. Jack Daniels is always there. Carry on.
Who says that i dont have a girlfriend and im not that enthusiastic about it. I just love to do models. GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?
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from what ive seeen Trumpeter are a good make suppose to be fine detailed but for me too expencive.
tamiya is i guesss the main stay
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Rock on Airfix! :D
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I think that depends on the Trumpeter kits. From what I've heard some of their kits are REAL inaccurate.
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Avoid trumpeter until you've got 10 years of building kits under your belt. Why? It's not worth it. They charge an arm and a leg. The up-swing is they're usually WORTH it, once you have the skills and experience to appreciate it. However, if you're going to butcher a 1/24th 109, don't do one of the $200 new Trumpeter kits, do the old Airfix one that only costs $50.
As for Tamiya kits: I don't gravitate toward them. They cost more than other kits. Mind you, you have to find the right balance between low cost and adequate kit quality. (in other words don't go bargain basement or the kit will suck). I've had some fun times with old 50's Airfix kits, with 80s and 90s Monogram kits, with a couple old ("cheap") hasegaway kits. Academy is a nice line for low price, but they usually have questionable accuracy on some kits. They also are releasing vehicles in 72nd scale (I wish more would).
Basically go to the hobby shop of your choice, figure out what you want, then look at the brands, and if there's one brand (like Trumpeter) that's $50 over all the other manufacturers, skip it.
All in all it really depends on the aircraft. Company X might make an A-10 better than company Y, but company Y far surpasses X in quality with their P-51A kit.
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Thanks for the comments on the different kits... The last thing I built was a B-17 and that was 15 Years ago...
I thought it might be a good hobby for me the kids... The older ones atleast....
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Start out on Revell/Monogram, them move up to Hasegawa or Tamiya.
I haven't bothered with the more expensive ones, I move a lot and my models always get destroyed. I lost 8 different 20th FG P-38s in the last one (1 H and 7 Js!).
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You want some relatively cheap(er) kits that have decent quality? Look for Academy. Some kits have problems (I hear the P-38s have issues) but for the most part they have a great 1/72nd line of kits and for not too much $$$ either.
Then again, if you want to spend just a little more (still not in the Trump range) Fine Molds has been putting out some new and very high quality kits, like newly tooled 109F molds, and they have a good trend to build Star Wars fighters in 72nd scale (nice to have it in a normal scale!).
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I only speak from experience on 1/48 scale, I don't go any smaller than that. I prefer the detail of the larger.
Hell, I have a 1/18 P-51D of "Ridge Runner" on my dresser behind me right now. :)
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I usualy build Academy,Tamiya,Hasegawa in 1/48th scale.Anymore your goin to spend 20-30 bucks on these kits here in the states.At least in NJ.Ya might get them cheaper online but usualy the shipping just evens it out.Squadron.com runs sales every month I beleive.Ya can find stuff cheap there sometimes.To me spending the extra 5-10 bucks for the better kit is worth it.But you gotta make that decision for yourself.Considering it takes the same amount of time to build and paint a cheap kit I might as well invest it in a nice one I figure.
Krusty I tried buildin a 1/72 scale tank.An easy 8 sherman.It was too small for me.1/35 scale is what i tend to do.Did a Trumpeter KV-1 not long ago.Kit looks nice.Trumpeter has put out a lot of new kits in a short time.Tanks,planes,ships its amazing.For years and years I watched as the same old kits were sold year after year.
Just finished a Hasegawa 109-g14 yesterday.Goin to start a Academy 38J today or tomorow.I got a pile of other stufff just waiting for proper insperation.
Thats another part of bein a good modeler.ya need to buy a crap load of kits and let them sit around heheheheh seems everyone in the hobby does it
Pipz
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Hey Pipz, you're right about tanks. Something just isn't right unless they're 1/35th. However, having cars, tractors, and so forth, is pretty cool when you can make a mini-diorama. You want to talk small? I did the Academy 1/72nd Kettenrad. And I super-detailed it!!! (well, for me it's "super detailed", but I hear they make a very complex PE set for it).
I like 72nd for aircraft though. A 72nd WW2 fighter is a good size. Still lare enough to see individual instruments, to detail the seats and sidewalls of the cockpit, but not large enough to take up all your $$$ and shelf space. My storage is limited (and always has been, it seems). Plus I like twin engine bombers, and 72nd is the best way to go for larger planes. There are problems with quality and lack of detail in some kits, but the same goes for 48th scale as well.
I had a Roden(t) He111E-1 almost ready for final paint when the new cats trashed the main gear struts something awful. VERY bad kit, but I got it looking pretty smooth. Now if only those cats hadn't ruined 4 hours of work (yes, 4 hours, no placement pins, no angle diagrams, and very complex landing gear struts, one for each wing).
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WOW!! super detailed a 1/72 Kettenrad!!that musta taken some patience Krusty.Ive seen some realy nicely done 72 scale stuff.Ya see it magazines more and more.I hear where your comin from on the price of stuff anymore.Heck the PE and super detail market exploded too over the years.Not to mention decals and the list goes on.They find all kinds of stuff to take our hard earned money dont they hehehe.
I guess the leason here is build what you enjoy and have fun with it.Thats pretty much the point of the hobby I would think.Theres somethin for everyone.I have a digital camera I have to plug into my system and figure out.Then I gotta figure out how to posts pictures in here Once I have it all figured Ill post pictures of my builds.Its always fun to share the hobby with others.Treize saw some of my builds on the 475th board I think.SF3 had posted them for me.Anyway ill get movin on postin pictures.
"A bandit at your six is better than no bandit at all"
Pipz
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This is a little under 1.5 inches long.
(http://www.nakatomitower.com/Kettenrad_done.jpg)
EDIT: P.S. for those that don't know, this was often used to tow aircraft over unfinished surfaces (the treads were more than capable).
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hehehe hey thats cool Krusty!Paint and wethering looks good.Thanks for the pictures!
Pipz
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A little off topic but thought I would mention it
RC P51 (http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/toys-games/remote-control/mustang/index.html) RC 190 (http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/toys-games/remote-control/rc-focke-wulf/index.html)
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I've always liked RC planes in general (hey, they fly!) but my hobbies tend toward the inert versions of small aircraft :)
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Here's how I skin an aircraft.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/corsair3.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/corsair5.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/corsair1.jpg)
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Does that 190 have retractable gear?
Also, does anyone know of an R/C Bf-109?
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Originally posted by mussie
Thanks for the comments on the different kits... The last thing I built was a B-17 and that was 15 Years ago...
I thought it might be a good hobby for me the kids... The older ones atleast....
My wife got me a Revell Germany B26 (she mixed up B-25 and 26 somehow in her head, bless her heart). Now, I haven't built a scale model in about 8 years... it will cost me at least $120 to get all the supplies I need to do that model properly (airbrush, paints, knives, etc. etc.)... so I'm on the fence.
That being said there are some sites that review kits and show techniques.
http://www.swannysmodels.com/
http://www.hyperscale.com/default.htm
That's just two. There are magazines and stuff too.
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Shlitz
Thats a realy nice lookin F4.Which kit is that?
Pipz
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Also, does anyone know of an R/C Bf-109?
Yep, Jarski have one (he plays AH also)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1074304
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=35773
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Originally posted by Treize69
Start out on Revell/Monogram, them move up to Hasegawa or Tamiya.
I 2nd this one. You can usually find the 1/48 Revell kits at Wal-Mart for about $8.00. In this line I've found the P-40B, Bf-109G, P-47D Razorback, and the A6M Zero. Cockpit detail is almost non-existant - for example the pilot sits on a post sticking out from the side of the a/c, but they will give you practice in the basics, as well as painting and/or airbrushing before you tackle one of the more expensive models.
For awhile I was bulding a lot of the 1/72 scale palnes to fill out holes in my die-cast colection, but recently have moved back to 1/48 because I enjoy detailing them and you can do more in this scale and still have some shelf room left than if you go to 1/32 or 1/24.
Lately I've been building Tamiya's 1/48 line of WWII planes, and enjoying the heck out of it. They are fairly detailed for the scale, and respond well to the weathering, shading, and other techniques to give you a nice loking model in the end if you do your part.
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Originally posted by SGT. SHLITZ
Here's how I skin an aircraft.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/corsair3.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/corsair5.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/corsair1.jpg)
Excellent job on that one! That's the Tamiya Birdcage kit, right? I have one in my stash I'm looking forward to building - looking at your pics makes me want to move it to the front of the line. Currently finishing up an F-84 jet - my first jet model. Hundreds of decals . . . .
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Scotty, you can do wonderful things with a minimum of supplies. You NEED a knife, a flat file, sandpaper, at least 3 paint brushes, an eye dropper and paint thinner (or 2 paint thinners if you use both acryl and enamel). Don't go all out on an airbrush. I've done some brush-painted kits that look better than some airbrushed ones.
So, until you're sure you want to get back into it, don't fork over all the money. My 2c.
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Yo SKjohn...how many kits do you have in your stash? heheh I have a good couple myself.Seems that tends to be a modelers trait.....the "to do" pile
Pipz
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Originally posted by SGT. SHLITZ
Here's how I skin an aircraft.
That is an awesome model. You should take some more pictures of it, without the glass tabletop and people standing around... a sheet draped over a table and a couple of lights can make a world of difference.
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Originally posted by pipz
Shlitz
Thats a realy nice lookin F4.Which kit is that?
Pipz
Pipz, its the Tamiya 1/48 birdcage kit.
Very good kit to build.
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man, those models make my B 26 and Heinkel HE 111 look rubbish!
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Originally posted by SKJohn
Excellent job on that one! That's the Tamiya Birdcage kit, right? I have one in my stash I'm looking forward to building - looking at your pics makes me want to move it to the front of the line. Currently finishing up an F-84 jet - my first jet model. Hundreds of decals . . . .
It's a nice little kit SK, It's even floor-less! I use tamiya paints for the most part. The only jets Ive done is a 262 and a Mig-15.
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Originally posted by macleod01
man, those models make my B 26 and Heinkel HE 111 look rubbish!
Pictures ;)
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Originally posted by macleod01
man, those models make my B 26 and Heinkel HE 111 look rubbish!
No worries Mac. Im sure they are great. Go to those websites. They helped me greatly. Ive been building off and on for 30 years.
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Originally posted by pipz
Yo SKjohn...how many kits do you have in your stash? heheh I have a good couple myself.Seems that tends to be a modelers trait.....the "to do" pile
Pipz
Just looking around the room, a quick estimate is about 40 - 95% WWII aircraft in 1/72, 1/48/ , and 1/32 scales. Mind you, that's only the ones that are visible from where I'm sitting . . . what the wife can't see she can't hold against me when I find other "good deals!":D
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Originally posted by mipoikel
Yep, Jarski have one (he plays AH also)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1074304
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=35773
I read both of those. It didnt mention too much. Is that a basic thing? Or custom? And what about landing gear? I didnt see that mentioned anywhere...
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I built that same birdcage kit, GREAT model.
Right now I'm still working on Tamiya's 1A. I'm building her as the Vargas Cowgirl F4U I skinned. Also using aftermarket detail kits for the cockpit, engines and landing gear.
That reminds me, someone around here was supposed to get me pics of how the engine plumbing fed into the exhaust stacks on the fuselage. :P
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Originally posted by SKJohn
what the wife can't see she can't hold against me when I find other "good deals!":D
heheeh Rite on buddy!!!!!!
Pipz
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Originally posted by SGT. SHLITZ
Pipz, its the Tamiya 1/48 birdcage kit.
Very good kit to build.
I have theyre 1-D kit that I built a good few years ago.Your rite they are Excellent kits!I believe they are still the standards by which all others are compared.I think mine is built as a VMF-512 plane.It has white checker board on the nose and tail.I had decals but they sucked.I ended up painting them on using 1/8th inch Tamiya tape.Came out alright.The only problem is it was one of the 1st I had built in some time.Its not dirty enough.Looks more like somehtin you would see in a museum.
Pipz
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This is going to be my first (serious) attempt at weathering a bird (you can see roughly how she'll look by checking out the skin version, under the thread Bent Wing Birds).
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ive got loadsss of these, il post some pics in new year have some lovely spits and 109' at 1;72 and 1;48 scale.
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I am sorry guys, but my camera is broken and it's the only camera i have. I cannot post the pics cuz i cant upload them from my camera(SINCE ITS BROKEN!!!!! WHAT A DRAG!!!!!!!!!!!).
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Here are a few more pics.
Tamiya 1/48 kits, Bf109-E(trop) & FW190D.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/trop092.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/bs109.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/dora2.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/dora4.jpg)
As you can well see, photography ain't my strong point.
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Originally posted by SGT. SHLITZ
Here are a few more pics.
Tamiya 1/48 kits, Bf109-E(trop) & FW190D.
As you can well see, photography ain't my strong point.
However it appears that building totally awesome model kits IS your strong point.
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Schlitz, Very nice job. I see you and I suffer from the same disease. Difficulty with a camera. Here is a F4u-1 I did a while back. I posted pics before.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/514_1100050781_dscn3924.jpg)
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Originally posted by SKJohn
Just looking around the room, a quick estimate is about 40 - 95% WWII aircraft in 1/72, 1/48/ , and 1/32 scales. Mind you, that's only the ones that are visible from where I'm sitting . . . what the wife can't see she can't hold against me when I find other "good deals!":D
Looking behind me, I still have about 100, mostly 1/48th scale kits stacked up, collected over the years. Haven't built seriously since I found Airwarrior back in 96. Just haven't had the time since :)
Should get back into it. I'd reached the point where I was getting halfway decent at it. Then those cyber 38s got into my bloodstream.
Just a partial list as I look at em.
14 F4 Phantom kits
7 F-16
10 Me 109
11 P-51
10 Spitfire
9 P-38
It goes on and on. Getting in the 'mood' for a certain kit or type always lead to more spending just to have some in reserve :)
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Schlitz, Very nice job. I see you and I suffer from the same disease. Difficulty with a camera. Here is a F4u-1 I did a while back. I posted pics before.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/514_1100050781_dscn3924.jpg)
Hobbycraft birdcage kit?
Got a couple of those Hobbycraft F4Us on the shelf too
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Schlitz, Very nice job. I see you and I suffer from the same disease. Difficulty with a camera. Here is a F4u-1 I did a while back. I posted pics before.
That looks fantastic, Bodhi!
What paints did you you use. The Blue-gray looks fantasic.
Show more of your models please.
I kinda did a sidestep and did a ground target on my last one.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/sherm1.jpg)
[(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a114/sgt_shlitz/sherm.jpg)
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Does that 190 have retractable gear?
Also, does anyone know of an R/C Bf-109?
No that particular one is a hand launched electric park flyer. however many similiar with retracts
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Dan,
It was a kit I got that was literally in a cardboard box with no directions or anything. Just a kit in a box. I copied another paint scheme from a model a friend gave me a while back.
Schlitz,
I will when I have the chance to pull them out of their storage box. Lacking of space recently. I do a ton of 1/35 tamiya and dragon tanks and such. Love them. Have several in the "to finish" bin! Finished a 190 last spring, not my best, but it was fun and built really quick.
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Bodhi,
I would also be very inteerested to know the color of paints you used to make the blue-gray on the corsair - looks fantastic! Also, what do you use for the soot/smoke around the gun openings?
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I use a lot of different paints... acrylics, epoxy, sometimes even paints from the shop. The soot and exhaust stains are made with a double action airbrush (Badger) and contain mostly flat black, a touch of white and brown. Practice on a painted piece of sheet styrene that is primed and coated the same color if you have not done it before. Then work quickly but purposefully.
As for panel lines, I scribe everyone, then I paint the model, and use darkened amounts of the base paint (darkened black) to make the shading. Use a double action airbrush, and a piece of flexible (read thin) styrene to literally mask the back side of the panel line off. there... instant shading.
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People who have such a gift for producing finely built plastic models amaze me. I wish I had the talent for doing such a hobby.
It is nice to see everyone's work.
:)
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More pictures please.
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wow yalls models turn out better than mine (u have more detail is what i mean) but im currently building a 1:48 p38 J. hopefully ill get it finished and ill post some pics.
by the way nice models schlitz
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(http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1043_1169232812_dscf1999.jpg)[/IMG]
Heres one I did of an Emil with eng damage, hope you guys like it
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I love it when folks get creative, JB!
What did you use?
I saw a B-17G hanging from the celing of a model shop once, it had massive battle damage and trails of cotton (or cotton balls on a string, or something) attached to distant parts of the ceiling to simulate smoke trails.
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for the smoke i had taken a clothes hangar and cut it, and then cotton balls and stretched them out along the rod, then hairspray to kinda keep it together, then black spray paint , then glue to attach it to the plane itself,
Now as for the weathering effect and being all dirty , i took a metal can and stuck it over a burning candle to where it had accumulated that smut on the bottom, then a paint brush to apply that smut from the can to the plane like a powder coat, all dry of course.
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Right now I'm working on a P-47D of the 302nd FS, 332nd FG of the 15th AF (The Red Tails). I'll post pictures of it once it's complete. :)