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Title: What would you think
Post by: VooWho on December 27, 2006, 12:15:16 AM
What would you think would be the outcome for Holland or France, if the Koolhoven FK.58 was in mass production before Holland was over run by Germany in WW2. Do you think this fighter could have helped Netherlands last longer in the war, or helped France with the air power over the Battle of France? Do you think it could match the german bf109, or Me110 fighters? You choose and decide, and please post your thoughts.

Stats:
Crew:1
Powerplant: one 806kW (1080hp) Gnome-Rhone 14-N9-39 radial engine
Performance: Max speed 475km/h (295mph); range 750km (466miles); service ceiling 10,000m (32,800ft)
Dimensions: wingspan 10.97m (36ft); lenght 8.68m (28ft 6.5in); height 2.99m (9ft 10in)
Weight: 2750kg (6063Ib) loaded
Armament: four 7.5 (0.29in) machine guns

First flight September 22, 1938.

(http://www.planes-and-tanks.com/HangarC/KoolhovenFK58Foto4.jpg)
Title: What would you think
Post by: Grits on December 27, 2006, 12:43:47 AM
Not much faster than a Hurricane and with only 4 light MG's I dont think it would have helped much. It is a nice looking aircraft though.
Title: What would you think
Post by: Flyboy on December 27, 2006, 02:24:49 AM
france was taken not because they had outdated equip, but outdated tactics
Title: What would you think
Post by: TW9 on December 27, 2006, 03:40:19 AM
and because its.. well.. its france :aok
Title: What would you think
Post by: Reynolds on December 27, 2006, 04:07:12 AM
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Originally posted by TW9
and because its.. well.. its france :aok


oooooooooohhhhh!!!!! Be careful there ;)
Title: What would you think
Post by: TW9 on December 27, 2006, 04:25:23 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
oooooooooohhhhh!!!!! Be careful there ;)


lol! did i say somethign not... well.. accurate?
Title: What would you think
Post by: Reynolds on December 27, 2006, 04:37:50 AM
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Originally posted by TW9
lol! did i say somethign not... well.. accurate?


lol. Suffice to say, there are quite a few frenchmen here who are quite... vocal.

Take a look at the firs quote in my signature :aok
Title: What would you think
Post by: TW9 on December 27, 2006, 04:55:18 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
lol. Suffice to say, there are quite a few frenchmen here who are quite... vocal.

Take a look at the firs quote in my signature :aok


im not worried  :aok
Title: What would you think
Post by: Grits on December 27, 2006, 07:39:33 AM
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Originally posted by TW9
im not worried  :aok


Yeah, what are they going to do, come over here and surrender?
Title: What would you think
Post by: VooWho on December 27, 2006, 09:53:23 AM
HIJACKED POST!

Man this thing went off topic over the French.

[note to self: Never add the word France, or French with the words Fall, destroyed, overran, or any negitive words that deal to the loss of something]

I blaim the French officers, and leaders for the cause, not the soldiers. I believe 400,000 French soldiers died in WW2 defending their land. A big salute to them
Title: What would you think
Post by: DiabloTX on December 28, 2006, 01:45:36 AM
Specifications (F.K.58)
General characteristics
Crew: One
Length: 8.7 m (28 ft 6.75 in)
Wingspan: 11 m (36 ft 1.25 in)
Height: 3 m (9 ft 10 in)
Wing area: 17.3 m² (186.2 ft²)
Empty weight: 1,930 kg (4,255 lb)
Loaded weight: 2,750 kg (6,063 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Gnome-Rhône 14N radial engine, 768 kW (1,030 hp)
Performance
Maximum speed: 475 km/h (295 mph)
Cruise speed: 430 km/h (267 mph)
Range: 750 km (466 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (32,810 ft)
Rate of climb: 11.6 m/s (1,130 ft/min)
Wing loading: kg/m² (lb/ft²)
Power/mass: kW/kg (hp/lb)
Armament
4x 7.9 mm FN-Browning machine guns in underwing fairings

Given it's low top speed, small calibre guns, and low climb rate, I'd so no, it wouldn't have affected anything other than padding Moelder's and Galland's (among others) kill scores.
Title: What would you think
Post by: bozon on December 28, 2006, 02:41:46 AM
Even if they had a squadron of F16s it would not have changed much. They lost the war on the ground and not by a small margin.
Title: What would you think
Post by: Reynolds on December 28, 2006, 03:14:27 AM
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Originally posted by bozon
Even if they had a squadron of F16s it would not have changed much. They lost the war on the ground and not by a small margin.


(straffos about to pwn me for this but...)

Would you HONESTLY have expected any different?
Title: What would you think
Post by: NoQtr on December 28, 2006, 10:55:47 AM
Is it me? or does that look some what like a Lala???