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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuckins on December 29, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
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....have been executed for their crimes?
At least in modern times? Stalin wasn't. Hitler wasn't. Nor was Mao Tse-Teung nor Pol Pott.
Off the top of my head I can't think of one.
The execution of Saddam Hussein, while it is richly deserved, may be, at least historically, something of an aberration.
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well 2 of them remained in power untill thier death kinda hard to hang a dead man
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Originally posted by Shuckins
The execution of Saddam Hussein, while it is richly deserved, may be, at least historically, something of an aberration.
What about in a greater historical perspective. Seem to me that leaders of the losing sides have been dying for millennia.
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Just waiting for Fidel to kick the bucket. (so I can get me some cheaper Cuban cigars)
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I suppose you could consider musolini as having been executed but it was not at the hands of the allies.
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neeeeevermind i need to get to the last post before I add the same thing to it. That's twice today.
What Mav said.
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Milosevic died in prison, does that count?
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Originally posted by Suave
Milosevic died in prison, does that count?
No, he wasn't convicted yet :)
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Originally posted by icemaw
...kinda hard to hang a dead man
Tell that to Oliver Cromwell lol
While not hanged, the English still did some interesting things to that corpse.
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Ceaucescu. And his wife. Not sure you could say he had a fair trial but he was executed.
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Originally posted by sullie363
Tell that to Oliver Cromwell lol
Seems to me that the sovereign Cromwell deposed had a similar fate. As Python (Monty) said, "The most interesting thing about King Charles I is that he was 5'6" tall at the start of his reign, but only 4'8" at the end of it."
Louis XVI lost his head too...
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Originally posted by Shuckins
....have been executed for their crimes?
At least in modern times? Stalin wasn't. Hitler wasn't. Nor was Mao Tse-Teung nor Pol Pott.
Off the top of my head I can't think of one.
The execution of Saddam Hussein, while it is richly deserved, may be, at least historically, something of an aberration.
Mussolini
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Steve, you ought to read some of the posts in the thread rather than just respond to the first one. :p
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If he'd only made it to France, Saddam would still be allive today and living the good life waiting for the world to declare his dictatorship "the only thing that would save Iraq".
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Nikolai II.
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Originally posted by Mini D
If he'd only made it to France, Saddam would still be allive today and living the good life waiting for the world to declare his dictatorship "the only thing that would save Iraq".
Do you seriously think they could have leave him able to speak? Remember what happened to Miloshevish?
Shameless hypocrites.
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ceaucescu and his wife elena.
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Before you pat yourself on the back remember he was committing those crimes while the US was supporting him.I suppose they only became crimes after 1990.;)
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Originally posted by Boroda
Do you seriously think they could have leave him able to speak? Remember what happened to Miloshevish?
Shameless hypocrites.
Who? The Netherlands?
If Milosevic would have made it to France, he too would still be alive today. There's a trend of crazy mass-murdering dictators returning to their hometown only to be captured there and put on trial. Milosevic would have been hanged too (if national laws allowed it).
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lorena bobbit went free too:mad: :mad: :noid :noid :noid :furious :furious :noid
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Originally posted by Hazzer
Before you pat yourself on the back remember he was committing those crimes while the US was supporting him.I suppose they only became crimes after 1990.;)
US sold him about 15 minutes worth of ord during the Iran-Iraq war---libs been saying ever since that we 'created' saddam--99.99% of his military material came from USSR/Russia---had Russians BEEN operating it, things might have ended differently
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Originally posted by Boroda
Nikolai II.
thread says mass murdering dictators, and you posted a name of a saint canonised by the Russian Orthodox Church??
a basically good man along with his family brutally murdered by a bunch of thugs and criminals..
basically what I read about him agrees with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_II)
so I was wondering why you posted him as if he was a mass murdering dictator. did I miss reading something???
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by support,I mean the US had friendly diplomatic relations with the beast while it was in their interest,and he was killing the big bad iranians,their wasn't even a slap on the legs and a naughty naughty,let alone a full scale invasion.The Turks are al so anti the Kurds,and a Kurdish state,that will cause bush problems in any future tripartite state...How many men will he send into the meatgrinder of Iraq,before he realises he's in a lose lose situation...Ill tell you...A LOT MORE.:(
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Originally posted by DieAz
thread says mass murdering dictators, and you posted a name of a saint canonised by the Russian Orthodox Church??
a basically good man along with his family brutally murdered by a bunch of thugs and criminals..
basically what I read about him agrees with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_II)
so I was wondering why you posted him as if he was a mass murdering dictator. did I miss reading something???
if i am not mistaken his guard fired upon a group of impoverished protesters at the palace. (though i don't believe it was by his command) i think that it ultimately served as one of the final straws for the russian people who were weary of fighting in ww1. that's memory serving. i am probably wrong.
trajic story. the lot of it.
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Originally posted by DieAz
thread says mass murdering dictators, and you posted a name of a saint canonised by the Russian Orthodox Church??
a basically good man along with his family brutally murdered by a bunch of thugs and criminals..
basically what I read about him agrees with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_II)
so I was wondering why you posted him as if he was a mass murdering dictator. did I miss reading something???
JB88 already mentioned Bloody Sunday (Jan 9th/22nd 1905), plus many other crimes like Lena shootings and so on. He was personally responsible for more deaths then Saddam. IMHO canonization was a silly mistake.
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and yet Stalin is "canonized" by some. Go figure. :)
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Originally posted by Boroda
JB88 already mentioned Bloody Sunday (Jan 9th/22nd 1905), plus many other crimes like Lena shootings and so on. He was personally responsible for more deaths then Saddam. IMHO canonization was a silly mistake.
bloody sunday is his fault? I think not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_1905 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_1905)
Lena massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_massacre) read this several times still trying to figure how Saint Nick was personally responsible for it.
LOL @ Toad, I guess some would "canonized" a bank robber, thief, and mass murdering dictator that was called Uncle Joe Stalin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin) bank robber part is below Stalin in exile 1915 picture and above Stalin, Lenin, and Kalinin meeting 1919 picture.
it seems Stalin was executed/assasinated by Beria, although nothing definite one way or the other.
yes 88 it is a tragedy. a real tragedy for the people of Russia to allow the murder of the Royal family to go unpunished and the take over of the country by thugs and criminals. but hopefully these events will go to serve as a reminder, that the people will remember and not allow Dictators to rise into power again.
hope all this makes sense, got the flu and feel real crappy sorry for typos etc. time to go lay down, laters.
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Originally posted by Hazzer
by support,I mean the US had friendly diplomatic relations with the beast while it was in their interest,and he was killing the big bad iranians,their wasn't even a slap on the legs and a naughty naughty,let alone a full scale invasion.The Turks are al so anti the Kurds,and a Kurdish state,that will cause bush problems in any future tripartite state...How many men will he send into the meatgrinder of Iraq,before he realises he's in a lose lose situation...Ill tell you...A LOT MORE.:(
Wow Nigel that's a good question. How many is the UK going to send to Iraq? As many as they sent to Northern Ireland you think?? The Falklands conflict was all about sheep and peet moss!The world would be a better place if the UK and it's leaders quit starting all these wars!!
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Originally posted by Hazzer
by support,I mean the US had friendly diplomatic relations with the beast while it was in their interest,and he was killing the big bad iranians, their wasn't even a slap on the legs and a naughty naughty, let alone a full scale invasion.
Saddam ordered a chemical weapons attack on the city of Halabja in March 1988 during the Iran-Iraq War. Estimates of casualties range from several hundred to at least 7,000 people. The UK awarded £400 million in trade credits to Iraq ten days after condemning the massacre.
Seems like the US had plenty of company.
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Jeez, Holden..it's Christmas and ya just poked a hole in the kid's righteous indignation!
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I find it amazing when the British act like they are somehow morally superior to the US regarding Iraq.
When they invade Iraq, just like the US.
When they occupy Iraq, just like the US.
When their government tried to mislead them about intelligence, just like the US. When they re-elected that government, just like the US.
I mean hell, at least the US electorate has changed the party in power in their federal legislature. Something the British haven't done.
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FWIW, Iraq is a British creation.
Nice lady drew some straight lines on the map.
(sings) "Mad dogs and Englismen go
out in the mid-day sun!"
Another gin, I think.
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I find it amazing when the Canadians act like they are somehow morally superior to the US regarding Iraq.
When they invade Iraq, just like the US.
When they occupy Iraq, just like the US.
When their government tried to mislead them about intelligence, just like the US. When they re-elected that government, just like the US.
I mean hell, at least the US electorate has changed the party in power in their federal legislature. Something the Canadians haven't done.
bring every single one of our boys home
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