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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: TwinBoom on December 30, 2006, 04:00:43 PM
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think this is bad?
the other nigh it was 122 bish
97 knights
45 rooks
how is ur side balacing thing working up above .5 envy with almost 30 plus
in the air im baffled
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even with balancing when its lopped theres a stinkin arena cap so no more players can get in Hitech ur plans need a little reworking
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Poor rooks :cry
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i've seen alot worse lately ... 140+ on the high country side 60 on the low ... and this during primetime in the LW arena's .
its almost time to bring back the Famous RJO on sunday nites .
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I dont mind. The other night I flew a Temp, it only cost 12 perks because the modifier was 4.4 or something. 262's were like 48-52 perks.
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It just says that side balancing is enabled; it doesn't say that it's effective.
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so hows is either country in this situation suposed to fight
or even get fun or decent gameplay?.....bollocks
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I prefer to be on the side with fewest numbers. It's kinda like flying a plane with .50 cal guns. I like the challenge.
And... it's easier to find targets.
HONK!
Gooss
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mean while theres a whoppin total combine players of 50 in
EW and MID arenas
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4 AM in the UK so just before I go I visited both LW arenas
Total players on ........634
Bish......................... ...209
Knight....................... ..202
Rook......................... ...223
10% more rooks total than knights one could argue but if every LW player was in JUST one LW arena that's pretty much balanced as you could get. Plus no ENY
No one side dominating the arena. Knights not getting out numbered in all arenas.
Poor knights they should have a third arena LWgreen so they can dominate in there because I know we ain't going back to a "single" MA :rolleyes:
Frankly, my opinion is 2 X Late Wars is passively promoting imbalance. In the words of our old mate from "highlander" ...." There can only be one "
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either enforce side-balancing or have 1 ***** arena:mad:
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One LW arena would solve the vast majority of the problem.
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On the bright side, we're a happier, kinder, gentler multiple arena population.
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I wish HT woulda kept the "Force you to fly the low side" thing.
It was a great idea. Might have needed tweaked somewaht, but it kept the arena sides much closer.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
On the bright side, we're a happier, kinder, gentler multiple arena population.
and where do I buy those rose tinted glasses.
happier
When channel 1 was detuned a year or two ago I didn't bother tuning channel 200. This September I was off work Ill and tuned to 200 again to see whats what and guess what ? It's still a crappy nasty stupid channel. There is still the sarcastic crap, the threats, the bravado, posturing, meanderings of imbeciles and the occasional "well done".
Channel 200 is a detractor. Little more than a soap opera with posers, postures and voyeurs.
kinder
Ever tuned to channel 6? Not a lot of helpers about. As for the green channel. Plenty of help as it always had.
gentler
Some folk complained bitterly about the hoard. So the hoard was countered by making fields harder to pork and or de-ack. This in turn is creating hoards to capture.
multiple arena population.
Getting your arse kicked in one arena? Just rub in the new improved Late War cream "Multi jumper". Within days all the arse kicking will be cured, except if your Knight in which case it doesn't matter anyway. You can join an arena confident that the vast majority of the population will have the same soft green completion. "Multi jumper" a passive imbalance cream at an arena near you.
OK, remember we are in a holiday / vacation period. We are going to see a lot more players about but the bottom line is the "bottom line". New changes good for newbie retention ? Well, lets check the roster at 4AM UK time (11pm east jan 30th) on January 31st.
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<---buys Lynx the patented Acme "Sarcasm Detector," 'cause it seems like his isn't working any more.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
One LW arena would solve the vast majority of the problem.
Nonsense, NoName.
The difference is that now all 3 sides get to experience the joy of being ganged. I was mostly flying Knight before the arena switches, and that country was on the receiving end of the nastiness consistently, for months on end.
Try a search.
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I'm puzzled at HT, though. The only comments I can remember him making about balance came down firmly on the side of "roughly even numbers are important for everyone to have fun."
But, you'd never know he thought that way by the decisions he's made lately. The ENY has been neutered -- it never made many people switch, but now its not even noticeable. Now, the game applies absolutely no pressure to keep things balanced...none at all.
If his goal is to see whether the new reset rules can alone even the sides -- well, I trust that the answer "NO" is obvious enough.
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Originally posted by Simaril
<---buys Lynx the patented Acme "Sarcasm Detector," 'cause it seems like his isn't working any more.
Yep. I need a better detector. I did see sarcasm in Hub's post but with his vehement approval of all the changes I wasn't 100% he meant it that way.
Hubs my apologies. However, I think I kinda summed things up further and the "" wasn't aimed at you either. It was in reference to ...lets say an inebriated person.
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Yeah, when I supported all the changes, I didn't think we'd wind up with no balancing mechanism at all. I'm not a huge fan of the current setup at the moment, but I'm hopeful that something will be done.
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I'd prefer to fly on the side with lesser numbers than to have the wait in line system implemented.
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Originally posted by Baine
I'd prefer to fly on the side with lesser numbers than to have the wait in line system implemented.
Often ya have no choice--last night, Blue was about full, bish had about 50% of ALL the people in arena, were about to reset rooks for about 8th time in arow....rooks had about 50 guys against 130+, and rooks had mebbe 2 airbases left, both of which were under vulch---go to check out Orange..FOUND all the rooks...zillion of them there (who wants to face that watermelon in Blue?) eny was like--cant even get the chitty jug, much less the N.....went back to Blue, but a few more bish must have shown up, as it was now full. Flew as nit for the night. At least there were some good fights, and for once, i landed some kills in what has been a forgettable camp. (Bish seem to send the cannon-fodder to the nit side, I must conclude;) )
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I keep looking at this mass and think. how would I fix it......
1). Use the latest reset rules.
2). One MA with the large maps.
3). Remove EW & MW.
4). Rollin plane set in the new MA.
OK... so it looks alot like the old AHII.
Now if I only knew how to get players into A v A.
CAVALRY
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I like the option of the EW and MW... these are mostly populated with dedicated furballers or squadrons that had a hard time getting in another arena to fly together. I am also glad that bases were fortified to make them a little more challenging to capture, I really believe this was the best single change to the game in ages. If it were my call, I would extend the radar range out another 8 miles or so to make bases even easier to defend. (It would give ample warning for NOE attacks to be thwarted)
Honestly the side imbalance is caused mainly by the LW arena splits. In the natural ebb and flow of arena population everyone is going to take a turn being ganged and ganging from time to time. Simaril, I flew this game for about 5 years, as a Knight... I know what I am talking about, I have seen it for myself. I never really mided being outnumbered though. Your insistance that the large arena wouldn't add stability to the numbers is fantasy, a number of screenshots of arena numbers have shown this with great consistency.
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NoName,
Regardless of your claims of expertise (which of course go unverified since you continue to hide behind anonymity), fact remains that for the last 6-9 months of the old MA the normal variation in numbers had stagnated. Again, if you don't believe me, I'd suggest you do a search... you'll find a number of posts saying just exactly that.
In fact, I switched from rooks to knights for that very reason...They were always lowest numbers, and I wanted to practice fighting against more targets.
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Originally posted by Gooss
I prefer to be on the side with fewest numbers. It's kinda like flying a plane with .50 cal guns. I like the challenge.
And... it's easier to find targets.
HONK!
Gooss
Can I get an Amen, brotha?!
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something needs to change imo
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The biggest problem is, It's not just the people who jump arena's...We all fly different time-zones, even when you consider that most of AH is probably based in the continental U.S., It leads to an always-changing set of players, that realistically will never balance. HTC might try changing his Side balancing system over to reflect the time zone that the player is in, But I'm not sure that this will help. Especially with all of the different arena's.
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Well I have notice this same thing a few times. So what I did is went and checked the other arena. So what do I find 100 plus rooks milking that arean with only maybe 25-30 nits and bish. So my advice is to get those milkers out of that arena and bring em to even it out.
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The clipboard page shown above is chocked full of errors.............
1) it says side balancing is enabled but infact the form of side balancing tried before xmas (forcing folk to swap sides) is NOT enabled. Just the ENY system which we all know does not balance sides.
2)when it says Knights it means Rooks, when it says Rooks it means Knights. Rooks cannot own 0% of their own fields unless the field capture order (preserving 3 core fields) was switched off.
I would say that last night Orange did have the field capture order switched off for a very small map............and there was every likely hood that Bishops (thanks to a very efficient Rook invasion)could end up with no fields without a reset.
Given all that I think what we have is OK.
Last night in orange we had approx 80+ Rooks and 80+ Knights (each) and 60+ Bishops. Rooks absolutely stormed through Bishops territory taking base after base. Yet Knights were held at both Bishop and Rook borders (give or take the odd base).
The point is that when you saw the population figures and the flying figures you saw that Rooks always had a higher % airborne. Even more importantly they were focussed (agin Bishops) and organised. (never seen so many P38's) Hence their success.
I note quite often that Bishops maintain a low % airborne.
But the evening was fun and eventually Bishops halted the "invasion" (dunno what happened after I left).
What is clear is
A)that you can have perfectly balanced sides yet a well organised, focussed country can roll up one side of the map (but they will not roll up two sides so easily to gain reset)
B)that balancing to an exact number is a waste of time if one side spends (on average) more time in the tower than another.
C)that the errors on the clipboard page confuse and then annoy.
D)that there should be a fail safe to ensure that the 3 core non capturable fields are indeed non capturable.
E)that despite balancing an organised side can easily create a massive local imbalance and totally dominate a small (moving) area of the map by largely ignoring the rest of it.
F)Last nights orange experience also showed (IMO) that when an arena resets with a population in excess of 220 the next map loaded should NOT be one of the smallest maps in the terrain folder.
I still hold the view that given C & D (and perhaps F) plus 1 & 2 above are executed properly that the system we have now is by far the best we have had.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
The biggest problem is, It's not just the people who jump arena's...We all fly different time-zones, even when you consider that most of AH is probably based in the continental U.S., It leads to an always-changing set of players, that realistically will never balance. HTC might try changing his Side balancing system over to reflect the time zone that the player is in, But I'm not sure that this will help. Especially with all of the different arena's.
Sorry chap but the biggest problem is split LW arenas. You even contradicted your self with the last sentence above.
Here look at me post earlier in this thread...I'll paste it here...hang on a sec.
4 AM in the UK so just before I go I visited both LW arenas Total players on ........634
Bish............................209
Knight.........................202
Rook............................223
10% more rooks total than knights one could argue but if every LW player was in JUST one LW arena that's pretty much balanced as you could get. Plus no ENY
Bish are in LWb and Rooks in LWo as their selected, prefered, settled snugly in, comfortable arenas. Both arenas outta balance one way or another and both suffering heavy ENY.
This shows the vast MAJORITY don't want to switch sides. They would rather be 20ENY than side switch.
One LW arena would help (not going to happen) but I also liked HTC's pre Christmas solutions. That's a predetermined-determined path of capture/s and the 3 options when your side out numbers others.
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This is like propaganda...pretty one sided Im seeing screen shots of one arena showing numbers. If your gonna post one arena post the other that shows the country has 2 to 1 there.....which would account for the difference. So basically this is the simple way of saying what everyone else has posted =p
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Originally posted by Simaril
NoName,
Regardless of your claims of expertise (which of course go unverified since you continue to hide behind anonymity), fact remains that for the last 6-9 months of the old MA the normal variation in numbers had stagnated. Again, if you don't believe me, I'd suggest you do a search... you'll find a number of posts saying just exactly that.
In fact, I switched from rooks to knights for that very reason...They were always lowest numbers, and I wanted to practice fighting against more targets.
Sim I agree with you but .......for god sakes man Ohio Fricken State, Go Florida !!! :rofl :D
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the last screens are of the blue arena at the same time as the orange
above it i showed both arenas :rolleyes: ty sir
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
I like the option of the EW and MW... these are mostly populated with dedicated furballers or squadrons that had a hard time getting in another arena to fly together.
I acknowlege that it is purely anecdotal but...last time I was in EWA the teams were 18/21/3...and I bet you can guess which side both the 18 AND the 21 teams were attacking.
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The reason Knights Usually have the lowest numbers is because Several, and I do mean several, squads left the knits in the last 2 years and went Bish. Thus the influx of Bish players and why they always dominate the arenas. Mainly they left because the knits would not work together (we had the majority of the furballers and still do).
There has been such a huge amount of new players on the knits it's hard to keep up with recognizing many of them. Just seems like a small core group of vets have remained on the knits.
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Furballers or Toolshedders is not the answer or solution to our problems. One arena with 600 players had a great example of the problems we had and still have. Going back to one arena will not fix it.
I will not complain or whine over it until I look in the mirror and take a good look.
Problems
1. The horde. Solution - I will try and get others to log on my squad channel (or join another squad channel) and have fighter sweeps. (Thxs for inviting me to your squad channel batfinkv. Tiffie fighter sweeps are a blast).
2. No one captures bases. Solution - I will try and get others to log on my squad channel and organize an attack. (Thxs 1DCannon and your squad for joining my channel. What a blast I had capturing bases heavily defended).
3. Balance. Solution - None. No happy medium between skilled and new players. New players require numbers, without it they will not stay past the 2 weeks. It took me a long time to learn the game and have done all the things a new player will do.
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Mainly they left because the knits would not work together (we had the majority of the furballers and still do).
No way! Rooks have the best vulching-furballers-tankers of anyone!
BTW, convert these .BMP screenshots to jpg and shrink their k-byte size a bit....takes forEVER to load them as they are
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having numbers is one thing. having the type of numbers to totally dominate an arena is something else, imho. i would like to see some form of number control. the players will never do it own their own....for a list of reasons to long and beaten to death. i think the game should be fun and competitive for everyone all the time. with 2 arenas, your getting horded, or you can switch and horde. not to say i haven't found a few good fights in between, but maybe more without huge number imbalances. i generally don't enjoy flying at 20k and picking the horde or flying in the horde racing to get a kill before someone else does. but sometimes it's just all you can do unless you want to fly sortie after sortie playing dodge 6 guys....can be fun, but gets pretty old after a short while. anything in between these extremes i would see as a good change. just my opinion though.
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Originally posted by pluck
having numbers is one thing. having the type of numbers to totally dominate an arena is something else, imho. i would like to see some form of number control. the players will never do it own their own....for a list of reasons to long and beaten to death. i think the game should be fun and competitive for everyone all the time. with 2 arenas, your getting horded, or you can switch and horde. not to say i haven't found a few good fights in between, but maybe more without huge number imbalances. i generally don't enjoy flying at 20k and picking the horde or flying in the horde racing to get a kill before someone else does. but sometimes it's just all you can do unless you want to fly sortie after sortie playing dodge 6 guys....can be fun, but gets pretty old after a short while. anything in between these extremes i would see as a good change.
I agree 100% with everything you just said above.
Originally posted by pluck
just my opinion though.
Except for that part, I disagree 100% with that statement, I know several dozen other players who think the same.
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TO add to the crys :):aok
Here is what Late War Blue Arena is currently like at 8:40Pm est time
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(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/ahss34.th.JPG) (http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=ahss34.JPG)
LWB Players
Rooks=96
Knights=155
Bish=68
LWB ENY
Rooks=O
Bish=0
Knights=25.8
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Originally posted by Husky01
Knights=25.8
.8? .8?
I am sure that I was not flying in that arena at that time.
- oldman (well....perhaps it was Lev, who counts as 1.8...?)
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Let me add a little to this, LYNX. It's not just the timeframe, but also whether or not you look on a weekend, middle or beginning of the week, or holiday. Also, snapshots, Friday TOD's, scenario's...all change the numbers, fairly quickly. Add to this, If a particularly favorite map comes up in an arena, and word gets out(Tank town maps have this effect, in particular) An exodus starts from one arena to another, with the unbalancing consequences. Back in the days of the Single MA, The number shifts were a lot less noticable, because there were fewer factors to drain from the 'pool', and the one MA was more balanced through all of the time zones.
I've read posts by Tilt and a few others that have been more adversely affected by lower arena populations when on Euro-time. I can see there point. Hopefully, a satisfactory solution can be found for the Euro-players...But the arena's don't usually fill to capacity until Prime-time in the U.S.(About 5-11P.M. EST.)
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Yes it was 25.8 click on the pic then click on it again to zoom in it shows 25.8:)
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Originally posted by pluck
having numbers is one thing. having the type of numbers to totally dominate an arena is something else, imho.
I'm not sure on the % but a large part of our community considers this fun. We notice this in one arena with numbers almost balance. You will still see a large group of players attacking a undefended base. Actually you can see all three countries attacking bases undefended.
We use words like -
Teamwork, Missions, if the base was so important then why didn't you defend it, flying with friends and squadmates, why should i have 2 change sides and countless other reasons.
to mask the large player base that truely enjoys doing what you stated. Dominate.
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hmmmm.
I think back to before the arena split...and all that has and still is transpiring in the game.
Lets be honest...a lota !@#$ has gone on in 2 months...and still, no apparent way to make HTs dream come true without keeping things in a tizzy.
Several things have been tried to keep smaller arenas and players enjoying themselves.
The two seem to be on a never ending collision course.
:(
Im left with one thought.
I was pretty sure i was having FUN untill HT told me i was unhealthy. :furious :furious :furious
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I'm not thrilled about the new system at all & had considered canceling my subscription. My wife talked me out of it (imagine that)
This is how it feels to/effects me:
I log in this morning; I see 168 people in the LW main & only 120 allowed so I know it'll be a while before I can get in there. I check out the LW orange? secondary arena & there are 19 people in there & even less in the rest of the arenas. Now, how can I find any GV action this morning with those numbers?
Oh it'll get better, more people will sign in, why GV anyway just fly you ground pounder etc etc. Well, I want to play what I want to play, when I want to play it. Yes I am guilty of living in an "on demand" world & it's sad, but when I pay my light bill I expect the lights to come on, when I pay my phone bill or my satellite bill I expect the same thing.
This is getting old fast. I have had trouble getting into an arena with enough numbers to actually enjoy it. I had a break from AH for a couple months while I sorted some P/C issues & hardware got replaced & I thought when I cam back I would have a renewed love of the game but instead I find it more tedious than it was before. At least you could log in & find whatever type of fight you were looking for before even if it was a PT vs. PT boat duel you could find it if you looked lol
I watched these changes take place, logging in every week or two to keep my version updated & to stay on top of things but now that I'm playing with these changes I find they suck. Just my opinion.
I'll end with a question; can anyone explain why the maximum number allowed goes up & down like that by several hundred players? I don't understand what this is supposed to accomplish at all.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
l end with a question; can anyone explain why the maximum number allowed goes up & down like that by several hundred players? I don't understand what this is supposed to accomplish at all.
I think the varying caps were intended to distribute the number of players evenly between the two LW arenas. LW Blue gets full & locked until Orange has reached a certain threshold.
Unfortunately, it does not work. At non prime time, we do often have the problem you described: Orange 19, Blue 140/120.
Even more annoying to me is that I am often not able to reenter an arena when I get booted. For example, me and a few buddies fighting desperatly to save a field. As the battle is reaching its climax, I loose TIR tracking or my connection just gets crappy. No problem, quick restart of game and - FUN is over. Arena cap prevents me from reentering that fight. Even if another arena had any numbers higher than 30 (rarely the case when I am flying) itīs no fun that way...
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OK, but what is the point in the fluctuating cap on the numbers allowed in the arena is my big question. It's a 120 max this morning but it was over 300-400 last night. Why isn't it set at a max number & left there?
Edit: thanks for trying to explain, I'm a little lost on what this is all supposed to accomplish.
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Originally posted by Lusche
I think the varying caps were intended to distribute the number of players evenly between the two LW arenas. LW Blue gets full & locked until Orange has reached a certain threshold.
Unfortunately, it does not work. At non prime time, we do often have the problem you described: Orange 19, Blue 140/120.
Even more annoying to me is that I am often not able to reenter an arena when I get booted. For example, me and a few buddies fighting desperatly to save a field. As the battle is reaching its climax, I loose TIR tracking or my connection just gets crappy. No problem, quick restart of game and - FUN is over. Arena cap prevents me from reentering that fight. Even if another arena had any numbers higher than 30 (rarely the case when I am flying) itīs no fun that way...
I have been getting booted a lot lately, only to find out when I try to get back in that the arena has maxed out or gone over max and I can't get back in. Since this only happens when the arena max's out I'm beginning to think I'm being booted to make way for somebody else! Really getting annoying especially when relog and I see 228/220. What the heck? eight players managed to get in over the limit while I get booted???
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Really getting annoying especially when relog and I see 228/220. What the heck? eight players managed to get in over the limit while I get booted???
No. The limit just went down from maybe 270 to 220.
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Lusche: You are taking the absolute worst posible moment in the system.
At 12:00 Central the system changes setting.
TimeStamp Late1 PlayerCount
1/3/2007 11:08:45 AM 24 164
1/3/2007 11:38:45 AM 23 174
1/3/2007 12:08:45 PM 29 172
1/3/2007 12:38:45 PM 86 119
1/3/2007 1:08:45 PM 88 120
As you can see within 30 mins there a plenty of people in the alternate arena.
So you are basicly complaining about a 30 min window.
The point is really simple to understand. No matter where you set the arena caps. Some one has to be first into the arena. You are just trying to make it someone besides you.
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Mugzeee: Get over it, we are not going back to one arena.
HiTech
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Originally posted by hitech
The point is really simple to understand. No matter where you set the arena caps. Some one has to be first into the arena. You are just trying to make it someone besides you.
No really -
My personal main point of whining is not to be the first one (I donīt like it, though) but the inabiltity to get back to friends and that specific battle I was commited to. Which is a huge motivator for some people...
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I guess I need to break out the bribe because I still don't understand why the number goes up & down. If the arena can handle 400 people why not leave the cap at 400 instead of going up & down? What is the point in the fluctuations in the max number of players allowed into the arena?
*My bribe will be forthcoming when I can afford it (read, when I make more money than you)
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Setting the cap at 400 would just cause 1 arena to fill up. And then the 2nd arena to not be populated very quickly. This would make it even harder to play with your friends during prime time.
The hole point of the current system is to minimize having full arenas,i.e. you can fly in either one, and secondly minimizing the time to get an arena populated to critical mass.
HiTech
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why not roll EW and MW into 1, they are under-used, and 85% of the population enjoys LW. why not have 3 arenas, easier to balance than 4, and gives EW/MW players more to shoot at,?
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OK, thanks. So we basically just have to suck it up when it's off peak hours & one arena is full & the rest only have a few people in them, or wait for an opening in the arena that is the most populated. :aok
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Originally posted by Laurie
why not roll EW and MW into 1, they are under-used, and 85% of the population enjoys LW. why not have 3 arenas, easier to balance than 4, and gives EW/MW players more to shoot at,?
First, I donīt think it would be a huge benefit to the LW arenas balance if EW & MW would be combined.
Second, many of the players in EW do like the abiltity to do more evenly matched fights in EW planes. Adding the MW planes like unperked Spit 9, Spit 8, La5 etc. will more or eliminate this option. A combined EW & LW arena will be just a MW one.
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Originally posted by hitech
Mugzeee: Get over it, we are not going back to one arena.
HiTech
I am over it ...I no longer subscribe and havent for 2 or 3 months (Cant remember).
I will continue to follow developments untill i feel the game once again offers what i enjoy.
I will also continue to express my opinion the same as anyone else.
Unless of course there is some new rule that applies to me only.
In that case I would no longer follow the games development via the BBS or by calling my friends for updates. And likely never return to a subscribing status.
Last night I just downloaded the latest version of your game with intent of returning in a few weeks.
This was a 12 hr. D/L on the dialup i use at my brothers in the sticks in PA.
Its kinda disheartening for the COE to tell me "Get over it" after such a loooong D/L. :lol
The way i see it, your the one scrambling for almost 3 months to make this idea fly. (Longest transistion i have ever seen in AH) Change this, change that, adjust that, You are posting in the BBS more than ever in AH history.
For every one that say's its good there is someone saying it isn't.
It doesnt look as if this is ever going to go away so long as you take a hard stand the way you have with this idea.
So heres an idea...you get over it.
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:O
:rofl
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Originally posted by Mugzeee
I have quit, and ecouraged all my friends to quit.
I still have the uncontrollable need to beyotch in public about a game that thousand of other folks are enjoying.
I still feel that my former $15/month status of CEO entitles me to insult the actual CEO.
:cry
Buh Bye.
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Originally posted by Edbert
Originally posted by Mugzeee
I have quit, and ecouraged all my friends to quit.
I still have the uncontrollable need to beyotch in public about a game that thousand of other folks are enjoying.
I still feel that my former $15/month status of CEO entitles me to insult the actual CEO.:cry
Originally posted by Edbert
:cry
Buh Bye.
I think it improper to intentionally create a false quotation of someones post ed.
Is this missquoting of me supposed to be funny?
And on the contrary..i have encouraged all my freinds to do whatever they enjoy.
Some of my squad stayed...some left. All of their free choice.
Some of my freinds have left some have stayed.
I encourage ppl only to do as they feel they should do.
beoytchin in public is no different than beoytchin about beoytchin in public.
You feel the uncontrollable urge to stand opposed in public?
You are viewed the same by the other side of the argument no matter the posistion you take.
So stop yer beoytchin :)
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So stop yer beoytchin
Please take your own advise.
And I do think Edberts paraphrase, all though in very bad form posting it as a quote, is fairly accurate of your attitude.
HiTech
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pwn
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Originally posted by hitech
And I do think Edberts paraphrase, all though in very bad form posting it as a quote, is fairly accurate of your attitude.
I tried to edit the part where it said "posted by" to read "synopsis of" but it was too late. I formally apologize for the poor decision.
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Originally posted by hitech
Please take your own advise.
And I do think Edberts paraphrase, all though in very bad form posting it as a quote, is fairly accurate of your attitude.
HiTech
If falsely Quoting is an acceptable practice then I think we should be prepared to see more of it.
But i personally think a false quotation should be against the policy of any public forum.
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Originally posted by Mugzeee
If falsely Quoting is an acceptable practice then I think we should be prepared to see more of it.
But i personally think a false quotation should be against the policy of any public forum.
I'm not taking any sides on this argument but to deliberately miss-quote is totally inappropriate.
HTC man ! You shoulda "deleted" Edbert post off the bat and not sided with it under your own 5 rule. If you wanna debunk mugs debunk him... El Presedentia
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LNYX.
At first i was a little surprised that HT didn't delet ED's post.
But after further thought i wasn't surprised at all.
Dissapointed yes...surprised...no.
For the record.
I have never encouraged any friend or squad mate to quit AH.
I have always encouraged my squad and friends to find a way to have fun for their self.
(Ask my squad mates or those that flew with me)
My original reason for quiting AH was financial.
But after i pulled the plug it was a big relief. (Addiction) :D
Now that i have had the resources to return after the second month i have been looking for reasons to return.
Seeing things constantly unsettled in the arenas via talking to friends on the phone and following the BBS, i don't see subjecting my self to the pain in the prettythang.
But i will keep watching.:aok
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Mugz, have you actually tried the new setup?
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Yes. On my cusins account on his PC here in PA where i am temporary working.
My only complaint is the same as many.
Two scenarios play out time and time again.
Cant get in the well populated arena.
Or get in the leser populated arena only to see very lopsidedness.
EW is not for me. (Things just happen too slow)
MW suffers the same problems as LW most of the time.
Yes it is true. I liked the old single arena.
I dont like the new setup.
I am fairly confident that the massive crazyness that the old MA is never going to return. (I enjoyed it just fine)
But i will not give up hope that there will finally be a fix that will work for me some day.
I noted that there are probably more newbies than i can remember experiencing. This is a plus for HTC. Out with the Old fuddy duddys and in with the next generation.
And no, i am not in search of the Holy Grail. ;)
Thanks for asking
cheers :)
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Originally posted by LYNX
I'm not taking any sides on this argument but to deliberately miss-quote is totally inappropriate.
HTC man ! You shoulda "deleted" Edbert post off the bat and not sided with it under your own 5 rule. If you wanna debunk mugs debunk him... El Presedentia
Welllllllll......
While deceptive misquoting is obvioiusly bad, it seems to me that the "summary reinterpretation pretend quote" is a time honored AH BBS tradition.
In its simplist form....who cant remember someone long rant being "wuoted" as an "originally posted by XXXX: 'Waaaahhh'"?