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Title: the perfect aircraft...
Post by: benziel on December 30, 2006, 07:40:02 PM
Im loking for an aircraft with the performance of a spitfire XVI,  the acuarracy of a P-38L and the velocity of a Me 262...

Or anything close to that IF its even possible
Title: the perfect aircraft...
Post by: benziel on December 30, 2006, 07:41:07 PM
O i forgot...

And it must be playable in most 8 player games
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Post by: 2bighorn on December 30, 2006, 07:52:37 PM
Download the aircraft editor from http://www.flyaceshigh.com
It has nice feature of swapping the parts so you can build your custom plane. You can have spitfire wings with me262 engines, etc. Really cool.
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Post by: Apeking on December 30, 2006, 08:00:24 PM
Yes, download the aircraft editor. I've worked up some wicked combinations myself and I thoroughly recommend it. You can find it in one of the menus at the top.
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Post by: TequilaChaser on December 30, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
benzie:

there is no such "editor" that exist as described in previous post, this is all a HOAX........

you can re-skin any aircraft ( think piant job ) but that is about as far as one can go......now as for terrains there exist a new Terrain/cloud/object editor recently released

can find a link to it here thru the Aces High Home page/website ---->http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html)
Title: Re: the perfect aircraft...
Post by: Benny Moore on December 30, 2006, 10:10:18 PM
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Originally posted by benziel
Im loking for an aircraft with the performance of a spitfire XVI,  the acuarracy of a P-38L and the velocity of a Me 262...


That would be the Lavochkin La-7, sir.  Enjoy your ride.  If it is not available, please take the Messerschmitt Me-109K as the nearest thing.
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Post by: SkyChimp03 on December 31, 2006, 12:41:45 AM
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
That would be the Lavochkin La-7, sir.  Enjoy your ride.  If it is not available, please take the Messerschmitt Me-109K as the nearest thing.


Lie:D Lghey7 has nothin' on k4! Quah!?:aok
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Post by: Saxman on December 31, 2006, 01:15:51 AM
F4U-4: the best ship in the game if you're willing to put in the time to master the beast.
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Post by: BaldEagl on December 31, 2006, 01:23:22 AM
ME163.  Not only close, better.
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Post by: Apar on January 02, 2007, 06:52:52 AM
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Originally posted by SkyChimp03
Lie:D Lghey7 has nothin' on k4! Quah!?:aok


Aint that the Truth  :D
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Post by: Xasthur on January 02, 2007, 09:01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Apar
Aint that the Truth  :D


G-14 is nice too, but K4 is great
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Post by: Benny Moore on January 02, 2007, 09:07:27 AM
Actually, the Ki-84's better than the Me-109K.  I simply forgot about it because I fortunately almost never run into it.
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Post by: SAS_KID on January 02, 2007, 10:34:22 PM
KI-84 can turn better but thats about it....o and maybe accelerate....
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Post by: Creton on January 03, 2007, 09:08:50 PM
109k4
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Post by: Schatzi on January 04, 2007, 03:32:28 AM
HMk1



(Ok ok, its missing the speed of the 163, but it makes up for that :D)
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Post by: Reynolds on January 04, 2007, 04:01:23 AM
La7. Once you have made a kill in an la7, please promptly remove your flight suit, remove your pants, and castrate yourself so as to save us the trouble. Please, dont fly a plane just because its teh ub3r 1337. Find a plane you actually LIKE and fly that. And if you cannot find a plane you like, leave the game.

Oh, and isnt the K4 a bit too difficult for a n00b? Especially with that cannon, its pretty hard to aim. It has the speed, definately, but it will never pull the maneuvers ive seen Spixteens do, nor does it have the easy-mode-aim he seeks.
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Post by: Schatzi on January 04, 2007, 04:14:30 AM
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Originally posted by benziel
Im loking for an aircraft with the performance of a spitfire XVI,  the acuarracy of a P-38L and the velocity of a Me 262...

Or anything close to that IF its even possible



OK, not sure if someone seriously answered your question yet, LoL.

Here goes:

To new players (to the game and/or flight Sims), I usually recommend a Spitfire MkVIII or MkIX or a F6F (needs flap work though!). All three have good overall performances and pretty much forgiving handling.

The most important thing - rather then what you fly is: Stick to it for a while. Pick one plane and learn it, inside out and upside down. Get to know its strenghts, weaknesses, what it likes, what it doesnt like. Then get to know how you perform regarding your opponent.... *his* strenghts, weaknesses and use them AGAINST him.

At this point, it might help to actually fly your opponents plane type a few times, to get a feel for it yourself.
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Post by: Xasthur on January 04, 2007, 05:44:01 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds

Oh, and isnt the K4 a bit too difficult for a n00b? Especially with that cannon, its pretty hard to aim. It has the speed, definately, but it will never pull the maneuvers ive seen Spixteens do, nor does it have the easy-mode-aim he seeks.


It's not a n00b ride, I don't think. It isn't easy to fly, it needs to be trimmed to save suicide-dives, needs flaps to turn and the cannon requires good aim and smart ammunition management.

To land any more than 2 kills in it, it requires some skill to fly.

Once you know how to fly it, it's pretty ****ing deadly!
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Post by: republic on January 04, 2007, 02:48:01 PM
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Originally posted by Schatzi
The most important thing - rather then what you fly is: Stick to it for a while. Pick one plane and learn it, inside out and upside down. Get to know its strenghts, weaknesses, what it likes, what it doesnt like. Then get to know how you perform regarding your opponent.... *his* strenghts, weaknesses and use them AGAINST him.


Easily the best advice you'll read anywhere here.  For me, my favorite has always been the 109 in it's many variants, my favorites are the K4 and the F4...truly two completely different beasts.

First, find a plane you like, then find the variant you like.  The later the model doesn't always mean the better plane.  Once you find one you like, spend as much time as you can in it.

Of course...everyone needs a break now and again.  :)
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Post by: Guppy35 on January 04, 2007, 03:57:22 PM
P38G   Just sayin :)
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Post by: MWL on January 05, 2007, 07:19:35 PM
Greetings,

  Three words:


  Forty. Seven. Nancy.



Regards,
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Post by: BlauK on January 05, 2007, 05:14:24 PM
Learn to fly any Bf109:s first and you can fly them all... never need to unlearn (m)any bad habits ;)
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Post by: B@tfinkV on January 05, 2007, 08:41:15 PM
the most perfect killing machine for any circumstance in the MA that we have available is the La7.

jets do not count because they are a novelty item and hardly what you would take to a dogfight that you had to use acms in.

with fuel burn at x1 the la7 would be the most impressive plane in every catagory except long range gunnery.


it will out manouver an A6m or hurricane2c, and it will chase down a 190D or a P51.



it baffles the mind that an aircraft with the potential to dominate any plane in the game can be flown with so little skill by so many.
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Post by: Schatzi on January 06, 2007, 05:50:08 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
it will out manouver an A6m or hurricane2c, and it will chase down a 190D or a P51.



I disagree on it outmaneuvering the HMk2C and the Zeke. Not, if those planes are flown by a fairly able pilot with stall limiter off.
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Post by: rauchen on January 06, 2007, 08:48:38 AM
I love to run into LA-7s when I fly the Zeke (A6M5).

Most La-7 drivers try the turn & burn, giving up their massive speed advantage and in about 2 turns they are doomed.  The trick is to use vertical turns (yes , even in a Zeke) so the La-7 pilot doesn't realize how fast you're gaining on him and decide to run.

A few of these encounters & I have enuf points for a 262.

If the La-7 is well flown I don't really stand a chance, but I can't remember the last time that happened....

The Hurri IID with the 40mm will outturn an La-7 too. And when you hit an La-7 with 40mm rounds there is a satisfying kaboom.  The Fm-2 & F4F are faster & turn better and will bag the La sooner, but with much less drama.
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Post by: Meatwad on January 06, 2007, 11:24:28 AM
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Originally posted by benziel
O i forgot...

And it must be playable in most 8 player games


The special rare aircraft are only enabled for paying subscribers. Freeloaders do not get this
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Post by: B@tfinkV on January 06, 2007, 12:58:51 PM
anyone here who doesnt think the la7 will dominate a A6m or a huri2c can come to the DA and i'll show them.


if I fail i will hunt down 2bighorn/airvent to demonstrate for me.
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Post by: B@tfinkV on January 07, 2007, 07:37:20 AM
the only thing that isnt super esy mode about the K4 is gunnery.  everything else, the K4 is more dweeby than a p51 or la7 :)
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Post by: Schatzi on January 07, 2007, 08:36:11 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
anyone here who doesnt think the la7 will dominate a A6m or a huri2c can come to the DA and i'll show them.


if I fail i will hunt down 2bighorn/airvent to demonstrate for me.



You said "outmaneuver"... not beat :) - if the Hurr or Zeke manages to sucker the La7 into an angles fight, its pretty much dead meat.


But im game for a few goes... lets see what we come up with Bat!
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Post by: BaldEagl on January 07, 2007, 10:22:10 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
jets do not count because they are a novelty item and hardly what you would take to a dogfight that you had to use acms in.


Novelty maybe.  What you would take into a dogfight where you had to use acms?... absolutely.  I'll take a 163 into a dogfight where I have to use acm's at any and every opportunity that's available to me even if I have to fly 2-3 sectors to get there.

From another post I had in another thread:

I've had some great dog fights on the deck in a 163 against any and every type of prop fighter.

Last week I took down a pair of P-51's. Right after that I was fighting a Spit an F6F and a 190 and got two of them and later that night I broke up a flight of about 30 P-38's. I made every single one of them drop their ord and turn to fight me taking 2. Other than the P-51's my fights were 2-3 sectors from the 163 base.

I flew 4 163 missions that night with no fewer than 2 kills but no more than 3 and landed every one back at the 163 base. Only one was against bombers (3 B-26's on the deck).

And this was just one night among many.

The ME163 is an awsome all-around fighter, has range to go three to four sectors and still get in a fight, can saddle up with the best turn fighters, will out-run and out climb anything else in the game and will almost always bring you home alive with kills.

[EDIT]  Thought I better come back just to say that I wouldn't recommend taking a 163 into a dogfight or even try to fly it more than a sector until you have some experience in the game in prop fighters and have your acm's and sa down pat AND have other flight experience in the 163.  I know a lot of noobs visit this thread and if they read this they are just going to go out and lawn-dart their hard-earned perks.
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Post by: Apar on January 07, 2007, 03:53:54 PM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
the only thing that isnt super esy mode about the K4 is gunnery.  everything else, the K4 is more dweeby than a p51 or la7 :)


LA7 is dweebier then a K4, it stall fights better, it accelerates and decelerates better, it has less tendency to snap roll, its faster.
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Post by: B@tfinkV on January 07, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
uh oh, now im in trouble :eek:
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Post by: Schatzi on January 08, 2007, 02:47:50 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
uh oh, now im in trouble :eek:



Right where you want to be my friend! :)


Throw me a time or two, and im sure we can whip up a little DA fun (and maybe even end up answering the "LaLa vs Hurr" question).