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Title: Income in the United States
Post by: AquaShrimp on December 31, 2006, 10:35:31 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/American_Income.png)

I found this interesting placard on wikipedia while reading about the U.S. economy.  Americans are making more than I thought they were.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: john9001 on December 31, 2006, 10:52:31 AM
Alex Rodriguez makes $24,200,000 pre year playing baseball.

thats 24.2 million.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: bj229r on December 31, 2006, 11:58:25 AM
its those evil greedy rich people skewing the numbers
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Neubob on December 31, 2006, 12:06:02 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
Alex Rodriguez makes $24,200,000 pre year playing baseball.

thats 24.2 million.


Thanks for the clarification. I thought it was 24.2 cents.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: john9001 on December 31, 2006, 12:10:49 PM
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Originally posted by Neubob
Thanks for the clarification. I thought it was 24.2 cents.


i didn't want all the zeros to confuse anyone who only makes $70,000 a year.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: LePaul on December 31, 2006, 12:30:20 PM
The secret message:  If you're in school, stay.  If you don't have your degree...invest in yourself and get one.

I'm checking out my local college's online offerings.  Its like haggling over a used car to make a college accept *their own credits* into new degree programs.  They don't want to accept the math and english course credits I took from them 10 years ago!  Has Calculus changed in 10 years?
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Nilsen on December 31, 2006, 12:40:17 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Has Calculus changed in 10 years?


yes.

before you had 0-9

now all you have is 1 and 0 in endless strings.. ohh and 1337
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Ripsnort on December 31, 2006, 12:52:48 PM
Something doesn't seem right about those numbers...a doctorate's degree median income is $70k?  I highly doubt that.

I'm an "under 50 percentile" PM (according to national Project Managers income salary survey) and my income exceeds that doctorates median income.:rolleyes:
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: porkfrog on December 31, 2006, 01:19:01 PM
rofl Nilsen!!

:lol
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Neubob on December 31, 2006, 01:27:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Something doesn't seem right about those numbers...a doctorate's degree median income is $70k?  I highly doubt that.

I'm an "under 50 percentile" PM (according to national Project Managers income salary survey) and my income exceeds that doctorates median income.:rolleyes:



A lot of those guys are college professors, and don't make as much as their title might imply.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Thrawn on December 31, 2006, 01:37:07 PM
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Originally posted by Neubob
A lot of those guys are college professors, and don't make as much as their title might imply.



That's okay, it's still a great jumping off point for Rip to state that he makes over $70K.   :aok
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Ripsnort on December 31, 2006, 01:37:15 PM
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Originally posted by Neubob
A lot of those guys are college professors, and don't make as much as their title might imply.

I'm willing to bet that they account for a very small percentage.

The most demand for Doctorates degree are in the following fields:
Electrical Engineering
Computer Science
Computer Engineering
Mechanical Engineering
Chemical Engineering

http://www.jobweb.com/joboutlook/2007/
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Neubob on December 31, 2006, 01:39:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'm willing to bet that they account for a very small percentage.

The most demand for Doctorates degree are in the following fields:
Electrical Engineering
Computer Science
Computer Engineering
Mechanical Engineering
Chemical Engineering

http://www.jobweb.com/joboutlook/2007/


Okay, rip, you're underqualified and overpaid... Happy now?
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Ripsnort on December 31, 2006, 01:39:18 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
That's okay, it's still a great jumping off point for Rip to state that he makes over $70K.   :aok


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hell, we hire mechanical engineers fresh out of college starting at $48k a year with only a Bachelor's degree.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: AquaShrimp on December 31, 2006, 01:42:22 PM
Rip, what about all the folks with doctorates in the soft sciences, like biology.  The median income for a person with a PhD in biology is 48,000.

Some folks get PhDs not because of the money, but to do what they love.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Neubob on December 31, 2006, 01:52:41 PM
Ripsnort, just tell us how much you make and we'll be done with it.

Personally, after all the hoopla, my curiosity is piqued.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Ripsnort on December 31, 2006, 01:55:52 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Rip, what about all the folks with doctorates in the soft sciences, like biology.  The median income for a person with a PhD in biology is 48,000.

Some folks get PhDs not because of the money, but to do what they love.


Here is some quick search data, from 2003 about biology:

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E-mail invitations to participate in the survey were sent during the summer of 2003 to (a) AIBS members, (b) subscribers to The Scientist magazine, and (c) members of the American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. Usable responses were received from more than 12,600 individuals. Results were compiled and published by Abbott, Langer and Associates, Inc.

The median annual income reported was $65,000. The composite highest-income practitioner in this field (salary plus cash compensation, such as bonus, profit sharing, or both), taking into account the size of the organization, is the position of president, with a median income of $120,000. At the other end of the income spectrum, laboratory assistants have a median annual income of $23,600.

Median total cash compensation of some of the jobs surveyed in the report.

� Research vice presidents/directors: $142,000
� Research managers: $139,000
� Chief operating officers: $129,000
� College/university department heads: $129,000
� �Distinguished� researchers: $126,000
� Professors (12-month appointment): $118,000
� Research section heads: $108,387
� Government section heads: $98,000
� Laboratory directors: $90,000
� Research unit supervisors: $85,000
� Professors (9- to 10-month appointment): $85,000
� Laboratory managers: $53,000
� Intermediate researchers: $50,250
� Assistant professors (9- to 10-month appointment): $49,713
� Secondary school teachers: $44,200
� Postdoctoral researchers (12-month appointment): $36,366
� Laboratory technicians: $35,000
� Intermediate research technicians: $33,000

http://www.aibs.org/aibs-news/aibs_news_2003_11.html



Bottom line: I always question validity of data from any survey posted on wikipedia. (Yes, I know its US Census data....)
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: john9001 on December 31, 2006, 01:58:20 PM
one of my niece's kids just graduated as a geologist, he starting with a oil company at $90k/yr with a $20k signing bonus.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Neubob on December 31, 2006, 04:39:56 PM
Rip, you still haven't answered the question of how much money you make.

I'm getting impatient, and soon I'll be drunk too, so make with the answer before I do something silly.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 31, 2006, 05:55:17 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
yes.

before you had 0-9

now all you have is 1 and 0 in endless strings.. ohh and 1337

You can blame it all on

NEW MATH (http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=audio_search&requestId=7e73167fb967e46a&clickedItemRank=1&userQuery=Tom+Lehrer+New+Math&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fgems.es-designs.com%3A16080%2Fppuckett%2FTomLehrerNewMath.mp3)

"Its so simple. so very simple that ONLY a child can do it"
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: Ripsnort on December 31, 2006, 06:31:05 PM
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Originally posted by Neubob
Rip, you still haven't answered the question of how much money you make.

I'm getting impatient, and soon I'll be drunk too, so make with the answer before I do something silly.

I make enough to pay an oppressive mortage, save enough for my 2 kids to go to college, carpet my attached garage, and enough to retire at age 57.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 31, 2006, 07:13:35 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
The secret message:  If you're in school, stay.  If you don't have your degree...invest in yourself and get one.

I'm checking out my local college's online offerings.  Its like haggling over a used car to make a college accept *their own credits* into new degree programs.  They don't want to accept the math and english course credits I took from them 10 years ago!  Has Calculus changed in 10 years?


Might not be as ridiculous as you think.  The way the course has been taught might have changed.  Or what the course encompasses might have changed.


So while you may have taken calculus 1 which taught ABC, their calculus 1 now teaches ABDE.


Not to mention the applications of technology and computer programs into calculus.  So while you might know it, you might not know the correct methods they want you to know in higher classes.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 31, 2006, 10:41:23 PM
Also, if GPA and class standing matters to you, you could just bite the bullet and take the class over.  If it hasn't changed much, you get an easy class and easy GPA.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: LePaul on January 01, 2007, 11:07:11 AM
Somehow I knew this would be hijacked into a "Oh boy, now we get to hear more about Rip's greatness"  :rolleyes:

Maybe if we feign interest, he wont post another family vacation picture-cade.
Title: Income in the United States
Post by: AWMac on January 01, 2007, 11:31:22 AM
Nailed the break down....I'm so Bloody Rich:

x Research vice presidents/directors: $142,000  Meth Lab Operations.
x Research managers: $139,000  Meth Research
x Chief operating officers: $129,000 It's mine, I own it.
x College/university department heads: $129,000 Help funded Meth Lab.
x �Distinguished� researchers: $126,000 Can't name names.
x Professors (12-month appointment): $118,000 Same as above.
x Research section heads: $108,387 Have two Heads working Lab.
x Government section heads: $98,000 Yep got them too.
x Laboratory directors: $90,000  Mine, Mine, Mine...
x Research unit supervisors: $85,000 Mine too.
x Professors (9- to 10-month appointment): $85,000 on Bond or Parole?
x Laboratory managers: $53,000 Yep.
x Intermediate researchers: $50,250 My lackys who acquire the supplies.
x Assistant professors (9- to 10-month appointment): $49,713 The New Guys.
x Secondary school teachers: $44,200  Distrobution of said Meth.
x Postdoctoral researchers (12-month appointment): $36,366 Gatherers.
x Laboratory technicians: $35,000 The Cooks.
x Intermediate research technicians: $33,000 Lab Rats.

To bored to do the math.

~Name Unknown~


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