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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: B@tfinkV on January 01, 2007, 12:27:17 AM
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i started playing AH1 because i have always loved WW2 aircraft and reading stories of dogfighting. for instance, since finding AH (my first online game) i have not played more than a small handfulll of other online games and none for more than a few weeks.
how many here are aviation addicts, and how many just like playing online games in a regular community?
how many would keep playing in the main arenas if AH2 scraped thw world war 2 stuff and only offered a simulation of modern day jet fighting? the gameplay, the community, ch200 and everything wopuld remain the same, but the WW2 element removed.
i certainly would not stay, as my heart lies with WW2 aviation.
sometimes i find it hard to believe there are 5000+ other people who all play because its about WW2.
stupid thread, maybe, but i thought worth asking
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Vintage warbirds all the way. Probably went from slightly interested to fanatic as soon as I discovered Airwarrior online.
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Originally posted by Murdr
Vintage warbirds all the way. Probably went from slightly interested to fanatic as soon as I discovered Airwarrior online.
Ditto
Bronk
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WWII A/C addict for sure. Just can't get into other types of games.
Frodo
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
my heart lies with WW2 aviation.
Agreed, on all points.
- oldman
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As many of my closest friends can attest I honor those who have bravely and honorably put themselves in harms way for the things that are right and true.
The men and women who dedicated themselves to fighting tyranny in WWII are all heros to me. To this day I wear my grandfathers dogtags that he wore on Normandy beach.
If I could pick one time in history to go back to and be a part of it would be as a pilot in WWII where discipline, duty, honor, and courage, regardless of what side you were on actually meant something.
I love this game but I will never forget the sacrifices of the fallen in that or any war before or since whether in war or peace.
I hope that my conduct in game reflects positively on any and all servicemen and women because, due to their sacrifices, I never had to serve and regret that as a young man I didn't think that service to my country was needed or necesary.
Were I able to turn back the clock 20 years I would have gladly served.
For all of you vets regardless of 'side' my hat is off to you because you were called and you went.
To all of my fellow AH'rs THANK YOU for giving me an outlet and a community where I can find like minded souls.
May 2007 bring all of you the blessings, happiness, and peace, that I've found so very recently.
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Warbirds addict.
AH and Warbirds before gives me a chance to understand on a different level how the war was fought in the air.
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I love the aircraft.
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Love the warbirds. About 2 months before finding Aces High I was daydreaming about a game that simulated all of world war two were you could make your own squads, and fly bombers, fighters, everything. I thought to myself "Man, this would be nice". About 2 months after that daydream, my dad got himself DVR for my birthday (Little did he know I would be the one always using it) first channel I tuned to was the Military Channel, then comes this commercial for aces high... I decide to check it out... "HOLY **** IM PSYCHIC!!!" lol. I love warbirds, always have. When I was 9, my friends and I would have these huge 'wars' where we would draw out maps, and planes and ships, and move them around in mock battles. Me and three other kids would rent out all the world war two books in the library, all the military books for that matter, and just read all the time. I even made my dad buy me a $35 book of Warbird pictures for my 7th birthday. I have been obsessed as long as I can possibly remember!
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What can I say this ArmChair Flying will really help me in the Air Force.:D :aok :p
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I like flying but I 'm not anyway addict to it. I don't have any flying related pictures, videos or books, expect the Rall's diary gift book.
It surely have been fun to fly with regular AH community. Especial with my native fellows.
Maybe not modern day fighters but with - 80 area stuff. The SARH, rear aspect IR and not so capable ARH missile fights. Where I can sign up for my Su-27?
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I love this game for the aircraft portrayed in it. I appreciate the fact that, while it is fun, it also teaches about the history of the great warbirds and other vehicles in it. It inspires me to learn more about the bravery of all sides in the war, and the machines that helped them fight it. While this game runs, there is life to WW2 history.
I hope that the younger generation especially picks up on what really made this game come to be.
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WW2 aviation history addict for about the last 40 years or so. AH just lets me pretend to be the guys I've read so much about and researched over the years.
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I find myself drawn here for a few reasons, but it should be known what drew me first was the fact that I was a history buff and an a fan of WWII aviation.
After that it was the skill involved in order to be effective in the online arenas. I often played first-person shooters like Battlefield and MMO's like Everquest, but no matter what else I did, I kept comming back here because I respected what it took to become 'good' here.
I still don't consider myself more than a mediocre pilot who occasionally gets lucky, but at least now I can recognize what someone's done to me and slowly learn how to be less of a baby seal in there.
The pure effort and learning process towards becomming skilled in this thing is what's kept me after the initial lure. So I guess if it was Jets or Subs or whatever...if it was the same kind of test of skill here, I'd be among the players.
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I started with Air Warriors over 10 years ago because I read an article in a computer magazine and thought it sounded cool.
I immediately became addicted to playing against other real people in real time in an exhilerating enviroment.
I then became a WWII combat aviation addict (I always had an interest but it went over the roof). I now have books and videos on WWII combat aircraft and combat fighter tactics.
I also do sim racing (NASCAR, Road Racing, Formula 1, etc.) in my (extra) spare time but it's been more and more displaced by AHII.
I'd always want to be able to go up in a WWII combat aircraft but wouldn't rule out WWI or jet fighter combat if they had the same adrenaline rush i get from this some times.
to all of you who have been around all of this time and to all of you newcomers and those yet to come and to our developers for making this the great addiction it has been for all of this time.
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I love WWII planes, beer and women. Not necesserily in that order.
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Do you love WW2 aircraft or do you just love online games?
both
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Aces High (1 and 2) is the only online game I've ever played. I only use my PS2 to watch DVDs with, I'm not that big of a gamer outside of AH. Always loved aviation and thats the only reason I play any online game at all.
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I have been an aviation addict ...well...since around the age of 7 years old.
Saw John Wayne and the flying tigers and I was hooked. Started building model airplanes at the age of 8. Inhaling Testors Glue fumes explains the way I act now at 57;) In the early 50s' when I grew up our area was a major steel producing center. Our Airport also was an Air Force Base...it still is. At that time we had F86s', then F102s' and F106s' based here along with what we called Flying Boxcars.
My Father would often take me to the airport just so I could watch them land and takeoff on a regular basis. This was before Jet Airliners also. Most of the major carriers of that time flew into Youngstown Ohio using DC3's (C47s) United Airlines, Capitol Airlines (Later Eastern).
I used to hold me ears as the engines revved at takeoff.
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Being born in England during the 50's and growing up in the 60's with parents that lived through the war telling me about how life was then I always had an interest in both aviation and WW2.
All I ever wanted to do during my school years was to enlist in the RAF and when I left school I followed my dream and spent 15 happy years travelling the world and meeting some of the best people you could ever wish to know.
During my free time in the RAF I used to travel around to airshows and museums, sometimes even being part of the airshow with the C-130 demo team or being on the support aircraft for the Red Arrows display team, this was better than being a visitor as I got to go behind the scenes and get close to these aircraft.
I didn't discover AW until 98 but then I was hooked and it's been only WW2 sims since then.
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Because of WW2 planes...
Other game I was hooked was Colin MCRae rally but I lost it somewhere...
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I would fly WWI planes if there were a decent flight sim. Red Baron 3D was one that I used to fly. The better guns, higher speeds, and higher performance of WWII aircraft seem more popular than the slower, twin (or single) .30 calibre, slow climbing cloth and wood birds. Saturation bombing wasn't available in WWI, so that's an issue affecting popularity as well.
Another drawback to the WWI planes is reliable data on aircraft performance. The tactics and maneuvers, however, are the same for both era planes. Bolke's dicta applies just as well to WWII aircraft as WWI.
Jet aircraft are another option, but that doesn't work (from my experience) until someone comes up with a clever way to deal with internet lag. Given the choice I'd go back to WWI Spad's, Albatro's, and Camel's. But then, I'd prefer a "dogfight only" arena.
Regards,
Malta
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When I was a kid I always dreamed of being a WWII fighter pilot, as I grew older RL made me realize it was never gonna happen.
My grandson got me interested in gaming when we bought him a playstation several years ago. Then I saw the commercial for AH on the military channel, and I was hooked.
I've tried FA, WB, and CFS, but nothing comes close to AH.
If they changed the game to jets, I'd leave, because nothing gives me as much of a rush as getting in close and personal with your opponent and duking it out. As a result of the game I've also developed a deep interest in WWII aviation as well as a much deeper appreciation for what the Greatest Generation did for us.
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Big WW2 aircraft buff, obviously the P-38 being the center of my attention. I'm also a gamer and when I ran into a game about 13 years ago that let me indulge in both of my hobbies it was a no brainer. I've probably played 100's of online games and MMO's and there were only two games I kept returning to over and over again, Air Warrior and Aces High.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Murdr
Vintage warbirds all the way. Probably went from slightly interested to fanatic as soon as I discovered Airwarrior online.
Yup, I started with AW1 also--- if this were F16's against Mig 29's...I prolly wouldnt be interested
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I like the ww2 planes for the most part. Have always been a big fan of them.
Other than ww2 era planes I think the only others I'd be interrested in are the early jet fighter years. Like the Korean war era, simply because it was still a dog fighting style war.
I also enjoy more modern jets but not for an online sim.
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WWII planes for me. It's a history, family, and heritage thing.
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When I was about 9 or 10 years old, I read the memoirs of Robert Stanford Tuck.
The dogfights described in that book, always kept me on the edge of my seat :). I must have reread that book about a dozen times.
I never seem to have lost interest in WWII planes and was very happy when I discovered this 2 years ago.
Although I'm a crappy cartoon plane pilot, I still have fun, met some great people and AH messes up my schedule.
shader
490th Battlin'Bulldogs
"We're a virus with shoes" - Bill Hicks
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WW2 aviation history addict for about the last 40 years or so. AH just lets me pretend to be the guys I've read so much about and researched over the years.
Yep Guppy35 same here for me .
Flying offline was ok but first time I went online I was hooked .
After reading The blond Knight of Germany (http://www.amazon.com/Germany-Colonel-Raymond-Constable-Toliver/dp/0345251660/sr=8-2/qid=1167675752/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-3214088-5875849?ie=UTF8&s=books) twice I really get into doing those attacks he speaks of :aok and the "coffee break" after .
Good stuff .
I also remember flying tinkertoy made airplanes around the living room , the wings were the green cardboad :lol . Used string to twirl them around and around .
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WWII aircraft have always been my biggest love even as a child. If there was no on-line WWII aircraft sim I'd still be playing bix sims, but once I started flying AW back in 92...................... I've been hooked , and will probably be hooked until I'm blind, broke or dead.
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I had a friend who helped me build my computer come over and log onto this game called Unreal Tournament. It was the first online game I had seen other than AH. I immediately hated it! AH is the only online game I have ever played! I watched old Hwood movies about WW2 dogfighting and such as a kid and loved them. Then Baa Baa Blacksheep came on in the late 70's and I was a fanatic about that show! My dad retired from the FAA and I guess aviation was just something I grew up with. I was just floored when I saw the commercial for AH on the discovery wings, I think it was, channel. To be able to dogfight WW2 aircraft, albeit in sim world, is just a dream come true!:aok
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I love WW11 history, for the effect it had on the world for all future generations, and love the AC that were used in the conflict.
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Aviation history all the way.
For example -- a few years back, I got the best birthday present ever. My family drove down to Dayton, and took me to the US Air Force Museum...but they dropped me off and went to the mall, so I could spend all the time I wanted, without worrying about anyone else getting bored!
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WWII. I'm addicted to it in every way and have been studying it since 3rd grade. I love everything about it and when I saw the commercial on the military ch... Here I am.
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Originally posted by SkyRock
My dad retired from the FAA
Your Dad was in the Fleet Air Arm?Cool...never detected a bit of accent in your voice in all this time.What he fly Harriers or them lynx helicopters??? hehheehehe Muhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
History of the aircraft is where I started.I remember as a kid maybe 7 years old buildin these little snap-fit spitfires and 109s.I found the internet,Amazon.com and Air Warrior back in 98.Played that for a good couple years.Then I played Warbirds for a short bit.When AH went to 14.95 I landed here.I have piles of books and im always lookin for more.So ya its the chance to play a bit of history for me.
"A bandit at your six is better than no bandit at all"
Pipz
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As you might not realize, I've been addicted to WWII flight sims since AW as stated from my other post. However, you must understand I've been a fan of WWII planes since I was about 5-6 when I got my first gas powered P40. Ya know the ones that you flew in circles with the strings attached? Well, needless to say, due to my poor eyesight, I've never had the opportunity to qualify as an actual combat pilot. So I spent 6 years jumping outa the things. Then AW was the start. (Thanks Greyeagle) I've just gotten set up here after getting a system capable of handleing the graphics well enough. I've bought and experianced the CFS 1,2,3 ect. but it always seemed "gamey" to me. This is where it's the best IMHO. But I'm probably just a re-incarnated WWII pilot with bad eyes this time around. :rofl
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WWII aviation all the way. Love gaming but to be able to get in a cockpit of a WWII fighter is awesome. My Grandfather was a F4-U mech during and after WWII and I think it came from him. I joined the Army to be in aviation (helicopters just couldnt do the AF thing)
Now if I could fly the F-86 Sabre that would be cool!!!
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I've been a long time aviation nut. Time period doesn't matter. If it flys I'm into it. I've had a ton of air combat and flight sim games and for the most part enjoy them all for one reason or anouther, but Aces High is the only one that has this type of community.
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read hear my sort of answer....
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128177&highlight=started
to make a short version, never was "really" into flying, but got sucked into this community, and the "skill" of actually "flying"
i have no interest in quake, or some online FPS, those are boring to me, and i have never tried another online "game" (unless you count ogame) so i dont have alot of stuff to relate to on that topic, other than just no interest.
here it seems all about the community, and the other boards / communities i somewhat frequent are just a bunch of ankle-humper castrati to quote shane lol
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I've been collecting WW II aviation art since 2000. My collection pretty much reached it's breaking point when I got to 35 prints (Taylor, Trudgian, Bailey, and a few others) and ran out of wall space.
The history of that era of aviation has always fascinated me. I guess I can blame it on the TV series, Baa Baa Black Sheep and the John Wayne movies when I was a kid.
As far as playing AH2, that was by accident. I was doing some research on-line and got re-directed to the HTC website. After the two (2) week free trial, that was pretty much it. Been crashing ever since!
Oh, and the wife thinks that having "posters" of dead guys on the wall is stupid.
Obie
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WWII aviation for sure.
Online games, or those tards that choose to be tards ingame, are just making me hate the internet more.
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Well, I like online gaming, but AH really won me over with the realtime vox. If the game was a modern aircraft combat flight sim with the realtime vox and text, plus the huge community, I would probably play it.
But I would have to say that it's the game, too. I won't spend money on warcraft or final fantasy or anything like those. If they made a "NFS-Most Wanted" world that matches the game itself, I would probably drive there for the free membership. But I'm too old to hang out with the kids that would frequent it.
Given the option, I would probably fly jets. But this, so far, has been the best online experience I've ever had.
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for me its aviation in general, ACM etc. Sure if they changed to to jets, i would stick around, only if the community stayed in tacked however, as thats the second point for playing...
its the fact of my love for aviation, and the fact this is the best online air "sim" around regarding its community (choosing words carefully :lol ) that it doesnt matter too much about what craft is being flown.
from this game though i have picked up a love for ww2 aircraft, but they werent the primary reason for my seeking this game out.
aslong as the community stays big and bright, and there is still a clear "skill ladder", ill always stay around trying to get that bit better here and there...
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i dont care much about the planes i just like the game
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I don't know why, but as a kid, I dreamed of flying and wished I could have been a WWII fighter pilot. Maybe it was the freedom flying represented along with WWII fighter combat being, to me, the pinnacle of air-to-air combat. I read books about WWII air combat, which were great, got into building models, flying control-line gas airplanes, and flying private planes -- but none of them were WWII fighter combat. To me, compared to my dream, even flying private planes eventually felt like a Sunday drive in a station wagon compared to a dream of off-road racing or like ice skating at the mall compared to playing ice hockey.
There were many years before there were such things as on-line games. Then, in 1987-88, Air Warrior came along, and it was a dream come true. THAT is what I really wanted: flying in air-to-air combat against other human beings, and not just one on one, but the whole range. Aces High makes all of that better, because the simulation is more realistic still.
Now, I have Aces High, and I still continue to be an enthusiast about WWII aviation history and about the aircraft. I like other on-line games, but Aces High is by far my favorite and the most important to me. I like the history AND I like the flying.
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I've been into flying most of my life and always saw computer sims as the promised land for those of us who missed out on flying in the military.
But why AH? I've tried most sims since the TI99-4a days and then Atari 800XL's with the first Falcon....Always major flaws...and finally, Aces High. Yes I too saw the commercial on the Military Channel and it draged me out of a 4 year love affair with Falcon 4.0. Never went back. Best flight model in many ways. Been a pilot all my adult life but AH made me a WWII student. I got to make great friends and not just meet but actually get to know WWII Aces. Learned things not in the history books.
Of all the sims, AH is the one I never get tired of. Faults? Problems? Issues? Of course, but not many. A wonderful work in progress.
Swoop73
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Teliing the truth i didnt know anything about WW2 aircrafts i only registered to this game because i wanted to play an online flight simulator. Then i became addicted to this game and became fascinated by WW2 aviation.
I also got pretty good in dogfighting too.
New name for now is Sonic22
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<<<------WW2 aviation junkie ;)
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I'm an aviation addict and proud of it! :) Then, I'm also a videogame addict... so I guess AH was written in my fate! ;)
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thank you everyone, its megadud an sonic im most interested in, or anyone else who is more into lots of games online and plays AH.
how would you two say the whole AH2 experience is compared to the alot of other online games and forums?
have you ever found a game conception so refined as to please avid simmers and lovers of the genre, and yet still able to please those that dont care if its planes, motor cars or dancing turles as long as its a good game?
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Ive always been a aviation and gaming geek... cant remember which came first as bout came to me in the early 80s... since then Ive always been playing alot of games but mostly flight and space sims...
Its been a natural mix of my two hobbies...
I do play other games online but never just point and click games... have to be player skill based games and preferably ones that evolve around some sort of craft that is used for combat...
Tex
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
thank you everyone, its megadud an sonic im most interested in, or anyone else who is more into lots of games online and plays AH.
how would you two say the whole AH2 experience is compared to the alot of other online games and forums?
have you ever found a game conception so refined as to please avid simmers and lovers of the genre, and yet still able to please those that dont care if its planes, motor cars or dancing turles as long as its a good game?
well you see, this is the only game i play. I didnt care about planes but i enjoyed the game and the banter on 200. I started learning abut the planes and grew more interested. so now i like the planes.
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WWII A/C addict, if the game changes to modern jets, I'm gone ;)
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check this Apar : http://www.minuscule.tv/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs2Ml1zgc88
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I only play because it is better than any of the Combat Flight Simulator games I tried, though thanks to the community here, specifically Ghosth, I learned how to set my joystick up far better than it had been, but I idn't like it online. I like this planeset, the charachteristics (and the charachters ;) )
I have never had any interest in any other online game, and have actually retired all my other computer games, even SHIII, though adding some U-boats (in bomber formation even) here would absolutely rock
HiTech and AHII community
1bob
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Originally posted by megadud
well you see, this is the only game i play. I didnt care about planes but i enjoyed the game and the banter on 200. I started learning abut the planes and grew more interested. so now i like the planes.
ah, like a moth sucked into teh very flame that burnt the rest of us then :)
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Originally posted by straffo
check this Apar : http://www.minuscule.tv/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs2Ml1zgc88
Fun films Straffo :D
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I got sucked into the Corfirmed Kill beta (which then turned into Warbirds) in May 1995 ONLY because it was pretty much the only massively online game there was at the time that I knew about on the Internet at large.
I hated aircraft and "flying games" in general. I didn't know a single thing about WWII aviation, or really any aviation of any era at the time. I lived for X-Wing Fighter, Wing Commander, Elite, and Privateer. Notice that there's absolutely nothing resembling "real flight dynamics" in those games. (But they all did help help with gunnery - which always just came naturally anyway.)
Then I found Confirmed Kill. All I knew is that there were a sky full of potential targets and wingmen THAT WERE ALL REAL PEOPLE. These weren't programmed AI pilots, like the hoardes of robots in "Robotron 2084." These other planes "thought back."
The world opened up.
So I had the triple-disadvantage of learning what the planes were ("What's a 'Spitfire?'"), the principles of flight ("Drag? Thrust? Lift? Angle of Atttack? Stall?"), and then ACM ("How did that guy get behind me so quickly?")
It took about a year before I stopped being the worst pilot up there (though I occasionally made some pretty good shots), and another year before I really got to like flight, aeronautics, and ACM theory, and then it just "clicked." I can actually still remember the situation when I rolled over a furball, looking "up" through the canopy at all the dots and planes below me, and thought to myself how it all looked like a Chess game, and what my next move should be. I was forever hooked.
I came to love WWII Aviation and aviation in general over the past 12 years, but for me, Aces High, Warbirds, and those betas before them have always been the human relationships and the human competition that these games bring together.
-Llama
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I used to get scolded by the grade school teachers for my attraction to ww2 history, airplanes and the lot. I would check out "time life" pictorial books , instead of cat in the hat, ...and id get in trouble. I'm a real ww2 junky.
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WWI and WWII (especially the Air War) have been interests of mine as far back as I can remember. It all spawns from my dads interest in the subject. He always had lots of books and was always playin' board games such as Axis & Allies, Squad Leader, Blue Max and the like. I can remember begging him to "let me play" when I was real little and him saying "read this book front to back and I'll teach you how to play." When I was about 12, I finally sat down long enough to read one of those books "Fighting the Flying Circus" by Eddie Rickenbacker. That turned out to be a double bonus because I was hooked on reading and finally Dad would teach me to play one of his games! He taught me to play Blue Max first and eventually I learned to play them all. When I found this game some 4 years ago and got hooked, I payed him back and got him hooked and he's played ever since.:D
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started in air worior 2 went to down of aces(wwi plains) back to air worior 3 ace high 1 to warbirds 2 and 3 ace high1 and 2 and tried fighter ace
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I've always been interestedin in war history and war games. The flight sims just kind of happened to gain ground through some early offline games like Amiga's F-18 Interceptor, PC RedBaron and Chuck Yeager..something. I also loved reading small was comick books, and usually liked mostly teh air war dedicated ones.
Then when RedBaron2 came out I got sucked into online flying. EAW followed and lead to WW2 environment. That was the time to found a squadron (8 years ago), which then lead into WW2 aviation history and research and collecting lots of books. After a while AH replaced EAW for me... and I am still here :)
So... games and war... flight sims in general... WW2 flight sims and WW2 aviation history. It happened in that order for me.
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thanks all.
so could we propose that anyone who does come across aceshigh as a pure games lover rather than a flight sim lover, will often be hooked into the history and genre if the game and community is good enough.
so not only does AH cater for the avid lovers of this genre, but caters for, and even converts other game lovers into this genre.
thats quite a game and community we have here.
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It is really a different community (AH). I got drawn to it during a internet search and I have not looked back. I still have many flight sims & other WWII games but they just gather dust on the shelf. I grew up in the WWII area and still remember black outs, raton books here in the US. I grew to love the WWII era, because of a school teacher I had (Airborne drop over Normandy). I only get online on the weekends & I am still dying & crashing and returning trying not to repeat my last mistake.
:noid
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Originally posted by Dace
When I found this game some 4 years ago and got hooked, I payed him back and got him hooked and he's played ever since.:D
Excellent. Dace, what's your Dad's handle?
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Originally posted by ColKLink
I used to get scolded by the grade school teachers for my attraction to ww2 history, airplanes and the lot. I would check out "time life" pictorial books , instead of cat in the hat, ...and id get in trouble. I'm a real ww2 junky.
You too? I got in trouble in the 6th grade, we were supposed to make mosiacs like the romans, and everyone made crappy flowers and patterns and stuff. I made a p-40 with shark mouth naturally, the teacher scolded me for making a "rhino plane". Silly woman, spinning props dont transfer well into the mosiac genre. She then confiscated my time life book of airplanes I had. I promptly took it back after class because stealing isnt right.